| Hang on - I thought the new Health Secretary was all about cutting wait 15:16 - Sep 22 with 1225 views | homer_123 |
times and improving the NHS....and yet the National Insurance rise is being axed.....
This is all very un-Tory like isn't it....the feckers.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-62998661 [Post edited 22 Sep 2022 15:19]
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| Hang on - I thought the new Health Secretary was all about cutting wait on 15:18 - Sep 22 with 1180 views | SamWhiteUK |
Wrong board. |  | | |
| Hang on - I thought the new Health Secretary was all about cutting wait on 15:19 - Sep 22 with 1169 views | homer_123 |
| Hang on - I thought the new Health Secretary was all about cutting wait on 15:18 - Sep 22 by SamWhiteUK |
Wrong board. |
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| Hang on - I thought the new Health Secretary was all about cutting wait on 15:20 - Sep 22 with 1168 views | XYZ |
Got to admire the chutzpah to look for credit for removing a tax they themselves imposed less than six months ago.
The party of fiscal responsibility ho ho ho. |  | | |
| Hang on - I thought the new Health Secretary was all about cutting wait on 15:23 - Sep 22 with 1149 views | J2BLUE |
From that news article: somebody earning £20,000 will save about £93 a year
This is so pointless. |  |
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| Hang on - I thought the new Health Secretary was all about cutting wait on 15:31 - Sep 22 with 1134 views | jontysnut |
Embarrassingly hopeless. I saw the round of interviews today and it sounded like even she didn't believe in the dross that her SPADs had convinced her to come up with. The answer seems to be to redirect NHS spending towards social care at the same time that tax cuts mean that local authority spending will be reduced. Still, buckets of sneeze all round in the City. |  | | |
| Hang on - I thought the new Health Secretary was all about cutting wait on 15:32 - Sep 22 with 1130 views | bungaytractor |
| Hang on - I thought the new Health Secretary was all about cutting wait on 15:23 - Sep 22 by J2BLUE |
From that news article: somebody earning £20,000 will save about £93 a year
This is so pointless. |
Not pointless as its two or three weeks shopping for many familys that havent got much | | | |
| Hang on - I thought the new Health Secretary was all about cutting wait on 15:33 - Sep 22 with 1124 views | jeera |
| Hang on - I thought the new Health Secretary was all about cutting wait on 15:23 - Sep 22 by J2BLUE |
From that news article: somebody earning £20,000 will save about £93 a year
This is so pointless. |
Yeah but...
"and the more they earn, the more they will benefit from this change."
Almost like there's a pattern to their thinking. |  |
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| Hang on - I thought the new Health Secretary was all about cutting wait on 15:36 - Sep 22 with 1116 views | noggin |
| Hang on - I thought the new Health Secretary was all about cutting wait on 15:32 - Sep 22 by bungaytractor |
Not pointless as its two or three weeks shopping for many familys that havent got much |
Where do these families get 2 to 3 weeks shopping for £93? |  |
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| Hang on - I thought the new Health Secretary was all about cutting wait on 15:42 - Sep 22 with 1079 views | jeera |
| Hang on - I thought the new Health Secretary was all about cutting wait on 15:36 - Sep 22 by noggin |
Where do these families get 2 to 3 weeks shopping for £93? |
To be fair it's not an unreasonable point to make.
We argue that people at the lower end are struggling to make ends meet so can't then argue the opposite when it suits.
What the answer would be is to make the income limit higher before implementing NI contributions maybe, or at last tier the contributions accordingly.
To not consider increases when the NHS is struggling for money is about as stupid as it gets. We need the service but this lot don't want us to have it.
As it continues to fail it will strengthen their argument for more privatisation. [Post edited 22 Sep 2022 16:04]
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| Hang on - I thought the new Health Secretary was all about cutting wait on 15:50 - Sep 22 with 1023 views | J2BLUE |
| Hang on - I thought the new Health Secretary was all about cutting wait on 15:32 - Sep 22 by bungaytractor |
Not pointless as its two or three weeks shopping for many familys that havent got much |
Fair point. Surely there's a better way to do it though than this where it saves the least for the people who need it most.
Although I guess that is the point when it's the Tories. Be grateful for your crumbs peasants. | |
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| Hang on - I thought the new Health Secretary was all about cutting wait on 15:57 - Sep 22 with 996 views | tractordownsouth |
NI isn't a very progressive tax but became less of an issue once the threshold was raised to 12k.
Coffey's targets for a GP appointment within a fortnight is incredibly unambitious. |  |
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| Hang on - I thought the new Health Secretary was all about cutting wait on 16:03 - Sep 22 with 954 views | jeera |
| Hang on - I thought the new Health Secretary was all about cutting wait on 15:57 - Sep 22 by tractordownsouth |
NI isn't a very progressive tax but became less of an issue once the threshold was raised to 12k.
Coffey's targets for a GP appointment within a fortnight is incredibly unambitious. |
I had a shock earlier.
After not being able to contact my surgery by phone or even email for a long time now, let alone being able to get an actual appointment, I called them today and was only 2nd in the queue - it's usually 14 or similar at which I don't bother, and was answered within a couple of minutes - and I was offered an appointment for tomorrow!
Not with a doctor of course, that would be silly, but someone who knows a bit like doctors do. | |
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| Hang on - I thought the new Health Secretary was all about cutting wait on 16:04 - Sep 22 with 948 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Hang on - I thought the new Health Secretary was all about cutting wait on 15:20 - Sep 22 by XYZ |
Got to admire the chutzpah to look for credit for removing a tax they themselves imposed less than six months ago.
The party of fiscal responsibility ho ho ho. |
The one positive that may come out of all this is busting the myth that the Tories are the party of fiscal responsibility. |  |
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| Hang on - I thought the new Health Secretary was all about cutting wait on 16:15 - Sep 22 with 927 views | homer_123 |
| Hang on - I thought the new Health Secretary was all about cutting wait on 16:03 - Sep 22 by jeera |
I had a shock earlier.
After not being able to contact my surgery by phone or even email for a long time now, let alone being able to get an actual appointment, I called them today and was only 2nd in the queue - it's usually 14 or similar at which I don't bother, and was answered within a couple of minutes - and I was offered an appointment for tomorrow!
Not with a doctor of course, that would be silly, but someone who knows a bit like doctors do. |
Usually 14 - have the rest died then? | |
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| Hang on - I thought the new Health Secretary was all about cutting wait on 16:16 - Sep 22 with 918 views | J2BLUE |
| Hang on - I thought the new Health Secretary was all about cutting wait on 16:03 - Sep 22 by jeera |
I had a shock earlier.
After not being able to contact my surgery by phone or even email for a long time now, let alone being able to get an actual appointment, I called them today and was only 2nd in the queue - it's usually 14 or similar at which I don't bother, and was answered within a couple of minutes - and I was offered an appointment for tomorrow!
Not with a doctor of course, that would be silly, but someone who knows a bit like doctors do. |
Not with a doctor of course
That made me laugh. | |
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| Hang on - I thought the new Health Secretary was all about cutting wait on 16:16 - Sep 22 with 917 views | homer_123 |
| Hang on - I thought the new Health Secretary was all about cutting wait on 15:42 - Sep 22 by jeera |
To be fair it's not an unreasonable point to make.
We argue that people at the lower end are struggling to make ends meet so can't then argue the opposite when it suits.
What the answer would be is to make the income limit higher before implementing NI contributions maybe, or at last tier the contributions accordingly.
To not consider increases when the NHS is struggling for money is about as stupid as it gets. We need the service but this lot don't want us to have it.
As it continues to fail it will strengthen their argument for more privatisation. [Post edited 22 Sep 2022 16:04]
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It's already heavily privatised. | |
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| Hang on - I thought the new Health Secretary was all about cutting wait on 16:18 - Sep 22 with 904 views | tractordownsouth |
| Hang on - I thought the new Health Secretary was all about cutting wait on 16:04 - Sep 22 by Swansea_Blue |
The one positive that may come out of all this is busting the myth that the Tories are the party of fiscal responsibility. |
It's crazy really that even leaving covid aside, we've racked up huge debt while also managing to destroy our infrastructure. Borrowing to fund current spending (which is essentially what tax cuts are) rather than capital spending is a huge gamble, one which even Corbyn wasn't willing to take.
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| Hang on - I thought the new Health Secretary was all about cutting wait on 16:19 - Sep 22 with 896 views | jeera |
| Hang on - I thought the new Health Secretary was all about cutting wait on 16:16 - Sep 22 by homer_123 |
It's already heavily privatised. |
You know what I mean.
Even further. More so.
Complete.
All.
Everything.
The lot. | |
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| Hang on - I thought the new Health Secretary was all about cutting wait on 16:23 - Sep 22 with 851 views | homer_123 |
| Hang on - I thought the new Health Secretary was all about cutting wait on 16:19 - Sep 22 by jeera |
You know what I mean.
Even further. More so.
Complete.
All.
Everything.
The lot. |
Yeah I knew what you meant but I think are still under an illusion! | |
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| Hang on - I thought the new Health Secretary was all about cutting wait on 16:24 - Sep 22 with 848 views | jeera |
| Hang on - I thought the new Health Secretary was all about cutting wait on 16:15 - Sep 22 by homer_123 |
Usually 14 - have the rest died then? |
Of hopelessness probably. | |
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| Hang on - I thought the new Health Secretary was all about cutting wait on 16:32 - Sep 22 with 810 views | HARRY10 |
| Hang on - I thought the new Health Secretary was all about cutting wait on 15:32 - Sep 22 by bungaytractor |
Not pointless as its two or three weeks shopping for many familys that havent got much |
I believe it is far lower - as low as £7 in the worst case. Even £93 over a year is not much. If a family sat in the dark for 10 years they would save enough to buy 4 new energy saving light bulbs.
These are absurd and offensive calculations that are based on the premise that the poorest should be grateful.
Forcing them to pay higher energy costs just to allow foreign owned energy companies (EDF/S Power) to siphon off billions, merely adds insult to injury. And all this is supposed to be some grand scheme to boost growth.
The UK is struggling to fill the job vacancies it already has. So where are the extra staff going to come from ? An old school friend who was diagnosed with MND, and who yet again has to fill in a Work Assessment Form ? He is in an electric wheelchair, with limited free speech. How much is being wasted on this sort of nonsense ?
Just how much was wasted on the recent proposed NI rise, that is now cancelled ? And the absurd stick insect bleating about fracking, when even the fracking companies state that it is a non starter.
What next from these idiots ? Monkey tennis. Youth Hostelling with Chris Eubank. Bunk beds in hospitals to save building more capacity. The oldest pupil being allowed to drive the school bus?
There is nothing that suggests there is any plan, other than ludicrous attempts at masking the huge labour shortage brought about by brexit. | | | |
| Hang on - I thought the new Health Secretary was all about cutting wait on 16:32 - Sep 22 with 814 views | jeera |
| Hang on - I thought the new Health Secretary was all about cutting wait on 16:16 - Sep 22 by J2BLUE |
Not with a doctor of course
That made me laugh. |
Our practice doesn't seem to have doctors anymore, or if it does heck knows where they are or what they do.
It has all these different people with various descriptors.
One or two I've met in the past seem to know worryingly little about the matter I've been booked in to see them about, but are no doubt experts in their own fields.
Still, the receptionist described the chap I'm seeing tomorrow as "a nice man", so hopefully that will be ok then. | |
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