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That EU they never get anything right 11:59 - Sep 30 with 1752 viewsKeno

we are best off out of it


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-63089222

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That EU they never get anything right on 13:29 - Sep 30 with 1424 viewsSuperKieranMcKenna

Yeah but fingerprints.
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That EU they never get anything right on 13:35 - Sep 30 with 1416 viewsclive_baker

Hopefully they can use it to offset against consumers energy costs because things are so bleak everywhere, mad times we're living in. Not sure if these are behind paywall but gives some context to the severity of the issues facing the Eurozone at the moment.

https://www.ft.com/content/0a7d5bba-4355-4e4c-9f2a-d42b2298fed3

https://www.ft.com/content/ddfd0379-5b23-44fa-ae3f-b7fb4b11295d

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That EU they never get anything right on 14:31 - Sep 30 with 1357 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

I thought individual nation states set their own tax regimes.

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That EU they never get anything right on 14:39 - Sep 30 with 1345 viewsbournemouthblue

It's probably more effective with 20+ nations all in on it?

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That EU they never get anything right on 15:28 - Sep 30 with 1306 viewsPinewoodblue


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That EU they never get anything right on 18:06 - Sep 30 with 1217 viewsfactual_blue

That EU they never get anything right on 14:39 - Sep 30 by bournemouthblue

It's probably more effective with 20+ nations all in on it?


So if there were twenty-eight nations all on it, instead of twenty-seven, it would be even better.

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That EU they never get anything right on 18:24 - Sep 30 with 1195 viewsHARRY10

That EU they never get anything right on 13:35 - Sep 30 by clive_baker

Hopefully they can use it to offset against consumers energy costs because things are so bleak everywhere, mad times we're living in. Not sure if these are behind paywall but gives some context to the severity of the issues facing the Eurozone at the moment.

https://www.ft.com/content/0a7d5bba-4355-4e4c-9f2a-d42b2298fed3

https://www.ft.com/content/ddfd0379-5b23-44fa-ae3f-b7fb4b11295d


naughty folk might like to know that if they use the Firefox browser there is an add-on, BYPASS PAYWALLS that allows them to access the FT and others

whether they think that is morally OK is up to them
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That EU they never get anything right on 18:45 - Sep 30 with 1165 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

That EU they never get anything right on 14:39 - Sep 30 by bournemouthblue

It's probably more effective with 20+ nations all in on it?


"In the UK, former Chancellor Rishi Sunak introduced a similar tax to Friday's EU agreement in May, which he called the Energy Profits Levy."

Or maybe just slower?

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That EU they never get anything right on 18:49 - Sep 30 with 1157 viewsSuperKieranMcKenna

That EU they never get anything right on 18:45 - Sep 30 by BanksterDebtSlave

"In the UK, former Chancellor Rishi Sunak introduced a similar tax to Friday's EU agreement in May, which he called the Energy Profits Levy."

Or maybe just slower?


This is in addition to other WFTs already levied in individual countries.
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That EU they never get anything right on 18:50 - Sep 30 with 1156 viewsHARRY10

That EU they never get anything right on 14:31 - Sep 30 by BanksterDebtSlave

I thought individual nation states set their own tax regimes.


A one off surcharge is not part of any countries tax regime.

33% is a joke - it should be 100%
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That EU they never get anything right on 19:03 - Sep 30 with 1109 viewsbournemouthblue

That EU they never get anything right on 18:06 - Sep 30 by factual_blue

So if there were twenty-eight nations all on it, instead of twenty-seven, it would be even better.


particularly a heavyweight member of the EU, which we were in fairness

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That EU they never get anything right on 19:48 - Sep 30 with 1072 viewsSwansea_Blue

That EU they never get anything right on 18:49 - Sep 30 by SuperKieranMcKenna

This is in addition to other WFTs already levied in individual countries.


Quite. Yes they’re slower. Of course they are as they have to thrash it out amongst the 27. But as you say, this is an added benefit to whatever the individual 27 are doing. One we could have had if we hadn’t been corrupted by dodgy barstewards.

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That EU they never get anything right on 19:52 - Sep 30 with 1055 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

That EU they never get anything right on 19:48 - Sep 30 by Swansea_Blue

Quite. Yes they’re slower. Of course they are as they have to thrash it out amongst the 27. But as you say, this is an added benefit to whatever the individual 27 are doing. One we could have had if we hadn’t been corrupted by dodgy barstewards.


Will be interesting to see the detail as I can't see any in the linked article. But surely there is nothing here that an independent nation couldn't do. Sunak could just have hit them harder if he had the political will.

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That EU they never get anything right on 19:53 - Sep 30 with 1048 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

That EU they never get anything right on 13:29 - Sep 30 by SuperKieranMcKenna

Yeah but fingerprints.


How do you feel about the fingerprint thing ?

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That EU they never get anything right on 19:57 - Sep 30 with 1045 viewsSwansea_Blue

That EU they never get anything right on 19:53 - Sep 30 by BanksterDebtSlave

How do you feel about the fingerprint thing ?


It worries me that thieves would cut off my fingers. So I’m more comfortable with it than retina scanning, let’s put it that way! Other than that, I’d be fine with it because it’s simple. I’m unlikely to forget my fingers when I go somewhere.

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That EU they never get anything right on 20:10 - Sep 30 with 1026 viewsSuperKieranMcKenna

That EU they never get anything right on 19:53 - Sep 30 by BanksterDebtSlave

How do you feel about the fingerprint thing ?


Don’t care - have to do it for entry to the the US, Cuba, a number of countries I’ve been to, I’ve got nothing interesting to hide!
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That EU they never get anything right on 20:13 - Sep 30 with 1004 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

That EU they never get anything right on 20:10 - Sep 30 by SuperKieranMcKenna

Don’t care - have to do it for entry to the the US, Cuba, a number of countries I’ve been to, I’ve got nothing interesting to hide!
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The nothing to hide argument is the lamest thing ever. Especially with reference to the general drift towards right wing authoritan regimes.

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That EU they never get anything right on 20:23 - Sep 30 with 992 viewsSuperKieranMcKenna

That EU they never get anything right on 20:13 - Sep 30 by BanksterDebtSlave

The nothing to hide argument is the lamest thing ever. Especially with reference to the general drift towards right wing authoritan regimes.


Cuba is right wing?

I don’t have an issue with a country wanting to know who is entering it.

Conversely, interesting to know why you find it so troublesome?
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That EU they never get anything right on 20:31 - Sep 30 with 952 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

That EU they never get anything right on 20:23 - Sep 30 by SuperKieranMcKenna

Cuba is right wing?

I don’t have an issue with a country wanting to know who is entering it.

Conversely, interesting to know why you find it so troublesome?
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I knew you would come back with that. Well if you trust statism in all past, current and future iterations then that is up to you.

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That EU they never get anything right on 20:42 - Sep 30 with 934 viewsSuperKieranMcKenna

That EU they never get anything right on 20:31 - Sep 30 by BanksterDebtSlave

I knew you would come back with that. Well if you trust statism in all past, current and future iterations then that is up to you.


I’m interested what your specific concerns are?
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That EU they never get anything right on 20:47 - Sep 30 with 909 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

That EU they never get anything right on 20:42 - Sep 30 by SuperKieranMcKenna

I’m interested what your specific concerns are?


That in a world of cctv, facial recognition, number plate spotters, phone location etc that direct action dissent against the system (including all future evolutions) becomes impossible. I presume you have read Big Brother.

Edit....obviously I meant 1984....
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That EU they never get anything right on 20:56 - Sep 30 with 881 viewsSuperKieranMcKenna

That EU they never get anything right on 20:47 - Sep 30 by BanksterDebtSlave

That in a world of cctv, facial recognition, number plate spotters, phone location etc that direct action dissent against the system (including all future evolutions) becomes impossible. I presume you have read Big Brother.

Edit....obviously I meant 1984....
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Fair enough.

No I haven’t read it.
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That EU they never get anything right on 21:09 - Sep 30 with 852 viewsjeera

That EU they never get anything right on 20:56 - Sep 30 by SuperKieranMcKenna

Fair enough.

No I haven’t read it.


I think it was written in the early to mid 80s.

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That EU they never get anything right on 22:20 - Sep 30 with 788 viewsKeno

That EU they never get anything right on 20:47 - Sep 30 by BanksterDebtSlave

That in a world of cctv, facial recognition, number plate spotters, phone location etc that direct action dissent against the system (including all future evolutions) becomes impossible. I presume you have read Big Brother.

Edit....obviously I meant 1984....
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No and I didn’t watch the TV series either

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That EU they never get anything right on 22:23 - Sep 30 with 775 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

That EU they never get anything right on 22:20 - Sep 30 by Keno

No and I didn’t watch the TV series either


Lol....cocked that one up didn't I.

Too many hedges this week.
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