| In McKenna we have the best manager in our league 15:45 - Oct 16 with 1844 views | carlisleaway |
But when playing lower league teams he has to look at ways to change our present formation.
Our front 3 need to train with a net to shoot in.
Personally I think he has made a mistake on the signing of Ladepo, we need a decent front man who can put away those half chances and maybe take a pop at goal instead of always passing it wide.
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| In McKenna we have the best manager in our league on 15:59 - Oct 16 with 1788 views | DavoIPB |
We literally have changed our way of playing, personnel and tactics within each game we have played this year. He tweaked it yesterday and it would have worked if we had the quality up front.
We don't have the best manager on the league though. |  | | |
| Surely Schumacher.... on 16:05 - Oct 16 with 1775 views | Bloots |
....is the best manager in the league. |  |
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| Surely Schumacher.... on 16:09 - Oct 16 with 1769 views | carlisleaway |
| Surely Schumacher.... on 16:05 - Oct 16 by Bloots |
....is the best manager in the league. |
With the funds he has available you may be right | | | |
| Surely Schumacher.... on 16:23 - Oct 16 with 1730 views | HighgateBlue |
| Surely Schumacher.... on 16:09 - Oct 16 by carlisleaway |
With the funds he has available you may be right |
Less money available, smaller crowds, four points clear at the top, won more games than anyone else, had a player taken from them by a rival (Ipswich) who played the vast majority of last season's games for Plymouth.
On the evidence of this season, I would say that Schumacher has the better record thus far. McKenna has done a very good job, and I am delighted we have him. But hyperbole that is not matched by the evidence is undesirable when one is not caught up by the emotion of a match in progress... |  | | |
| Surely Schumacher.... on 16:24 - Oct 16 with 1720 views | bazza |
| Surely Schumacher.... on 16:05 - Oct 16 by Bloots |
....is the best manager in the league. |
Shirley Schumacher? |  | | |
| In McKenna we have the best manager in our league on 16:36 - Oct 16 with 1698 views | ibbleobble |
Why is he the best manager in the league? He hasn’t achieved anything yet. Plenty others have: Robinson, Cotterill, Cowley. He’s the most promising, not the best until he has something to point to as an achievement and we’re 7-months away from that, at best. | | | |
| Surely Schumacher.... on 16:39 - Oct 16 with 1687 views | bazza |
| Surely Schumacher.... on 16:23 - Oct 16 by HighgateBlue |
Less money available, smaller crowds, four points clear at the top, won more games than anyone else, had a player taken from them by a rival (Ipswich) who played the vast majority of last season's games for Plymouth.
On the evidence of this season, I would say that Schumacher has the better record thus far. McKenna has done a very good job, and I am delighted we have him. But hyperbole that is not matched by the evidence is undesirable when one is not caught up by the emotion of a match in progress... |
Hopefully off to West Brom.. see them slip back down the table.. | | | |
| In McKenna we have the best manager in our league on 16:57 - Oct 16 with 1627 views | Churchman |
| In McKenna we have the best manager in our league on 15:59 - Oct 16 by DavoIPB |
We literally have changed our way of playing, personnel and tactics within each game we have played this year. He tweaked it yesterday and it would have worked if we had the quality up front.
We don't have the best manager on the league though. |
That is the Plymouth manager. To put together the outstanding team in the division with a fraction of the resources of a number of clubs below them is some achievement.
I think Evatt at Bolton has done a brilliant job, given where they were. Cowley at Portsmouth has done well too, even if he does moan too much.
McKenna is good already and may well become a top manager in the PL. I think he will, but he needs time. |  | | |
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| In McKenna we have the best manager in our league on 17:13 - Oct 16 with 1593 views | Garv |
| In McKenna we have the best manager in our league on 16:36 - Oct 16 by ibbleobble |
Why is he the best manager in the league? He hasn’t achieved anything yet. Plenty others have: Robinson, Cotterill, Cowley. He’s the most promising, not the best until he has something to point to as an achievement and we’re 7-months away from that, at best. |
I think he's a genius but at the same time, similar to when we all went over the top about some of our signings last summer, we're all seeing things relative to how completely sh*te it's been for about seven years. |  |
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| In McKenna we have the best manager in our league on 17:40 - Oct 16 with 1536 views | Illinoisblue |
| In McKenna we have the best manager in our league on 17:13 - Oct 16 by Garv |
I think he's a genius but at the same time, similar to when we all went over the top about some of our signings last summer, we're all seeing things relative to how completely sh*te it's been for about seven years. |
That’s a good point. And Back in 91-92 and 99-00 I don’t recall any “we’ve got the best squad in the league” hyperbole. We just got on with it. I guess that’s more to do with every kick, pass, tackle, shot, miss, press conference being examined to death in this age of social media. |  |
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| In McKenna we have the best manager in our league on 17:44 - Oct 16 with 1525 views | pointofblue |
McKenna's done a decent job so far but anything beyond that? No. Considering the money at our disposal and players signed we should be fighting for promotion. Indeed, being four points off Plymouth is not that impressive although also indicates who the best manager in the league currently is - Schumacher. | |
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| In McKenna we have the best manager in our league on 20:58 - Oct 16 with 1317 views | ibbleobble |
| In McKenna we have the best manager in our league on 17:13 - Oct 16 by Garv |
I think he's a genius but at the same time, similar to when we all went over the top about some of our signings last summer, we're all seeing things relative to how completely sh*te it's been for about seven years. |
A genius? Genius being, ‘an exceptional intellectual or creative power or other natural ability’. When a person has achieved nothing of note to date, how do you justify such a lofty moniker after a 1-0 defeat at home to Lincoln in the third tier of English football!? [Post edited 16 Oct 2022 21:02]
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| In McKenna we have the best manager in our league on 22:56 - Oct 16 with 1170 views | Garv |
| In McKenna we have the best manager in our league on 20:58 - Oct 16 by ibbleobble |
A genius? Genius being, ‘an exceptional intellectual or creative power or other natural ability’. When a person has achieved nothing of note to date, how do you justify such a lofty moniker after a 1-0 defeat at home to Lincoln in the third tier of English football!? [Post edited 16 Oct 2022 21:02]
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Would you like to take my comment any more literally?
I guess you could say he's the first genuine coach we've had for...can anyone help me with this answer? I genuinely don't know. So compared to the last X managers, he is a bit of a genius.
He's just impressive, both in terms of how he's set his teams up since he's been here, how he is on the touchline - usually the calmest man in the stadium - and the things he says. | |
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| In McKenna we have the best manager in our league on 00:21 - Oct 17 with 1092 views | ibbleobble |
| In McKenna we have the best manager in our league on 22:56 - Oct 16 by Garv |
Would you like to take my comment any more literally?
I guess you could say he's the first genuine coach we've had for...can anyone help me with this answer? I genuinely don't know. So compared to the last X managers, he is a bit of a genius.
He's just impressive, both in terms of how he's set his teams up since he's been here, how he is on the touchline - usually the calmest man in the stadium - and the things he says. |
I’m not sure how else to take the term ‘genius’ other than literally. He’s made an impressive start to his management career; a genius he is not. To illustrate that : Warren Buffet, Bill Gates, Stephen Hawking, Elon Musk, Mark Zuckerberg, Albert Einstein…Kieron McKenna.
To answer the question though, he’s the best manager we’ve had since Mick McCarthy, no question. That’s not much of an accolade though. | | | |
| In McKenna we have the best manager in our league on 02:42 - Oct 17 with 1041 views | BigCommon |
People forget he's only ten months into his first ever managerial role.. Imo, he's still learning on the job to a degree. There will be one or two situations along the learning curve, that are still new to Kieran. But what I see, is a smart guy, that will learn from every game, win , draw ,or lose.
Think yesterday was a freak result, when you look at all the stats. Taking nothing away from Lincoln. But I don't think KM did a lot wrong yesterday. We could have started quicker, and we fluffed our lines in front of goal a few times. Imo, there's nothing wrong with our game plan. Which has got us sitting top two.
If I'm gonna nit pick, then perhaps one or two players need a bit of man management, a gee up. Which, by the looks of the last few matches, is exactly what KM has been doing at half time. But last two games, we've started slow, and perhaps that gee up could have come before kick off. But I get the impression, that KM is putting a lot of trust in the players to be able to do that for themselves. And one or two have let him down. Or, indeed, require a kick up the backside from the off...
I think its natural for Lg1 standard players to switch off now and then. And like I say, if I'm nit picking, those players need to be singled out on the side, and motivated in some way. Whether that's an arm around the shoulder or a hair dryer. Whatever works for them.
I've got no problem with McKenna, though. I'm glad we've got him. And we've only recently been talking about, how we are now managing to win those sort of games we had yesterday.. As they say "You can't win them all".. More importantly, for me, it's how we react to these set backs. And tbf, we've reactted quite well this season, so far. |  | | |
| In McKenna we have the best manager in our league on 03:03 - Oct 17 with 1035 views | bournemouthblue |
I don't actually dislike Ladapo, what I do dislike is not really having an alternative to him
Jackson is alright but has never really been prolific, Ahadme (time will tell)
TJJ isn't a striker, talented though he is, he's almost another number 10
So for me, we lack a fox in the box which in McKenna's system, also need to a be a big lad with a good engine and an eye for goal
They need to be able to dominate defenders whilst also having that goalscoring instinct
We need a really complete forward to do that, I'm not sure they exist at our level, if they do, they aren't going to be here long!
I'm irritated at the Tyreece Simpson situation, not because he was ever likely to be good enough but more so the fact we never had a look at him to see what he could offer
I get that his agent was being a pain and that other clubs might give him more of a chance
However, he was a lot of the attributes we currently need
We won't find a better athlete than him, that is for sure.Ladapo I feel has some talent but he isn't someone like Daryl Murphy who can run all day and make a nuisance of himself, nor does he gamble like a. Out and out goalscorer will
What he does do is make space for our number 10's or at least has done so, pretty well in most games and I fell we have no replacement that does that role quite as well as him
We lacked an alternative to Ladapo against Lincoln for me
And in truth, we lack a quality striker who will get goals I the Championship, which isn't a problem at the moment but it could be next season!
Personally I would like to see us go for someone like Wickham in January
He's 6 foot 3, we know he has immense talent, no idea on his fitness or mobility any more but early signs seem to be suggesting he is doing a role for Forest Green
Clarke-Harris is another that was a bit too good for this level, there must be players about who would be worth getting |  |
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| In McKenna we have the best manager in our league on 04:47 - Oct 17 with 1005 views | BigCommon |
| In McKenna we have the best manager in our league on 03:03 - Oct 17 by bournemouthblue |
I don't actually dislike Ladapo, what I do dislike is not really having an alternative to him
Jackson is alright but has never really been prolific, Ahadme (time will tell)
TJJ isn't a striker, talented though he is, he's almost another number 10
So for me, we lack a fox in the box which in McKenna's system, also need to a be a big lad with a good engine and an eye for goal
They need to be able to dominate defenders whilst also having that goalscoring instinct
We need a really complete forward to do that, I'm not sure they exist at our level, if they do, they aren't going to be here long!
I'm irritated at the Tyreece Simpson situation, not because he was ever likely to be good enough but more so the fact we never had a look at him to see what he could offer
I get that his agent was being a pain and that other clubs might give him more of a chance
However, he was a lot of the attributes we currently need
We won't find a better athlete than him, that is for sure.Ladapo I feel has some talent but he isn't someone like Daryl Murphy who can run all day and make a nuisance of himself, nor does he gamble like a. Out and out goalscorer will
What he does do is make space for our number 10's or at least has done so, pretty well in most games and I fell we have no replacement that does that role quite as well as him
We lacked an alternative to Ladapo against Lincoln for me
And in truth, we lack a quality striker who will get goals I the Championship, which isn't a problem at the moment but it could be next season!
Personally I would like to see us go for someone like Wickham in January
He's 6 foot 3, we know he has immense talent, no idea on his fitness or mobility any more but early signs seem to be suggesting he is doing a role for Forest Green
Clarke-Harris is another that was a bit too good for this level, there must be players about who would be worth getting |
I think on another day, Chaplin or Harness takes one of their chances. So , imo, Freddy creating space for the 10's almost paid off. Can't remember Freddy , himself, being served up a decent chance, tbf... I think what we really lack for those type of games, is an ultra creative player who can pull a moment of magic off of the bag. Which we could of done with. But those kind of players tend to be a bit maverick , and I'm not sure if they'd be a perfect fit in a disciplined KM side. That said. We are second top scorers in the division and that was the first time we failed to score in the league this season. So, realistically, we can't really say that goals have been a problem, overall. It's very rare that Chaplin, Harness, Burns and our forwards draw a blank. Just have to credit Lincoln for some dogged defending, and move on.
A bigger concern for me, is us getting done twice on the back stick. We could and should of been 2-0 down.. I just think 7 or 8 players were slightly off it.. It rarely happens, but it did on Saturday.. Davis, Morsy and Evans pick of the bunch for me.
Let's hope we're fired up for Derby . Decent win against them, and we'll all feel a lot better. | | | |
| In McKenna we have the best manager in our league on 05:41 - Oct 17 with 974 views | franz_tyson |
Not sure we have the best manager in the league if he has to change formations to deal with lower teams. Lower teams make up quite a number of teams and should be our bread n butter. In fact, we've a decent record against lowly teams - but we've only beaten one "big" team. I do think we got outmanouevred and outhought in Saturday, though.
Why do we have to pin 'best' tags on him? Why not let him be an upcoming young manager learning his trade - making the odd mistake, but making more good decisions than not. | | | |
| In McKenna we have the best manager in our league on 06:26 - Oct 17 with 957 views | PioneerBlue |
It’s spelt Ladapo. KMcK is doing a very good job, nothing else counts until he’s got a promotion, or won something of note, or players he’s coached are sold for very high valuations on his cv. | |
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| In McKenna we have the best manager in our league on 11:21 - Oct 17 with 797 views | ipswichtillidie |
Let’s wait and see till the end of the season to judge and make comments like that. I think from what I’ve seen so far Ladapo isn’t the answer. Wonder if we we look again in January. Might be hard to find a goal scorer in January but then again we did get Stewart didn’t we. I like Clark-Harris the lad a P’Boro. [Post edited 17 Oct 2022 11:24]
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