| George Hirst 19:08 - Dec 1 with 3182 views | Hipsterectomy |
After the whole summer being linked to him, I see he's only played 9 times with 0 goals for Blackburn.
I wonder if he'll be sent back in Jan. Certainly doesn't look like they're going to use their option to buy him. |  |
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| George Hirst on 20:41 - Dec 1 with 3034 views | jayessess |
Given his age and career achievements I thought Leicester's decision to extend his contract and loan him to the Championship team was pretty eccentric at the time.
Between missing out on the transfer fee and paying his wages, it'll cost them going on £5m for a player whose prospects of ever playing Premier League football were always vanishingly small. |  |
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| George Hirst on 20:55 - Dec 1 with 2992 views | ParisBlue |
| George Hirst on 20:41 - Dec 1 by jayessess |
Given his age and career achievements I thought Leicester's decision to extend his contract and loan him to the Championship team was pretty eccentric at the time.
Between missing out on the transfer fee and paying his wages, it'll cost them going on £5m for a player whose prospects of ever playing Premier League football were always vanishingly small. |
He's 24 in 2 months. Can't help thinking he made a mistake leaving Sheffield Weds when he did. |  |
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| George Hirst on 21:13 - Dec 1 with 2923 views | ArnieM |
Looks like we dodged an expensive bullet there then.
But I think our own Ahadme (spl?) will prove a big hit and effective once we play to his strengths. He seems to have a physical presence about him. |  |
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| George Hirst on 22:08 - Dec 1 with 2808 views | jayessess |
| George Hirst on 20:55 - Dec 1 by ParisBlue |
He's 24 in 2 months. Can't help thinking he made a mistake leaving Sheffield Weds when he did. |
From his perspective he's going to pick up more than £1m a year for 3 years, even if it transpires that he ultimately isn't good enough to make an impact in the Championship. | |
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| George Hirst on 08:34 - Dec 2 with 2473 views | itfcjoe |
| George Hirst on 22:08 - Dec 1 by jayessess |
From his perspective he's going to pick up more than £1m a year for 3 years, even if it transpires that he ultimately isn't good enough to make an impact in the Championship. |
Yep, amazed he got that mega contract - but he is now contracted to one of the top 10 clubs in the country for the next 3 seasons and will continue to be given opportunities to flourish whether he takes them or not.
A real shame we didn't get him here |  |
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| George Hirst on 09:04 - Dec 2 with 2390 views | tractorboy1978 |
| George Hirst on 08:34 - Dec 2 by itfcjoe |
Yep, amazed he got that mega contract - but he is now contracted to one of the top 10 clubs in the country for the next 3 seasons and will continue to be given opportunities to flourish whether he takes them or not.
A real shame we didn't get him here |
Sounded like it would have required a big investment though - I baulked at the numbers being mentioned in the summer.
He had a good 6 months at Portsmouth but he's not done much anywhere else he's been even though he was clearly very highly rated as a kid. It could be a bullet dodged, depends what way you look at it. |  | | |
| George Hirst on 09:27 - Dec 2 with 2343 views | itfcjoe |
| George Hirst on 09:04 - Dec 2 by tractorboy1978 |
Sounded like it would have required a big investment though - I baulked at the numbers being mentioned in the summer.
He had a good 6 months at Portsmouth but he's not done much anywhere else he's been even though he was clearly very highly rated as a kid. It could be a bullet dodged, depends what way you look at it. |
If we'd have paid £3m and £10k a week then think it is the sort of investment that could really pay off - but he ended up signing at Leiciester for a reported £20-25k a week.
It doesn't sound like LCFC know what to do with him - but a good Champ loan spell this year or next and he's worth £15m so small risk for them | |
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| George Hirst on 09:36 - Dec 2 with 2280 views | PhilTWTD |
| George Hirst on 09:27 - Dec 2 by itfcjoe |
If we'd have paid £3m and £10k a week then think it is the sort of investment that could really pay off - but he ended up signing at Leiciester for a reported £20-25k a week.
It doesn't sound like LCFC know what to do with him - but a good Champ loan spell this year or next and he's worth £15m so small risk for them |
That's exactly right from what I heard in the summer. Different people at Leicester had different ideas what to do with him. There were those that wanted to sell and others who went along with the view in the latter part of your post. I think he probably needed to move on to somewhere where he was going to settle rather than another loan, but you can understand why he stayed and signed the sort of deal he did. |  | | |
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| George Hirst on 09:42 - Dec 2 with 2236 views | clive_baker |
| George Hirst on 21:13 - Dec 1 by ArnieM |
Looks like we dodged an expensive bullet there then.
But I think our own Ahadme (spl?) will prove a big hit and effective once we play to his strengths. He seems to have a physical presence about him. |
I agree about Ahadme, from the little I've seen of him I like the cut of his jib. Has all the hallmarks of a player that can continue to improve and he's certainly not lacking in effort. |  |
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| George Hirst on 10:16 - Dec 2 with 2120 views | jayessess |
| George Hirst on 09:27 - Dec 2 by itfcjoe |
If we'd have paid £3m and £10k a week then think it is the sort of investment that could really pay off - but he ended up signing at Leiciester for a reported £20-25k a week.
It doesn't sound like LCFC know what to do with him - but a good Champ loan spell this year or next and he's worth £15m so small risk for them |
Not sure the market for good Championship strikers is quite there anymore. No one wanted to offer more than £10m for Ben Brereton Diaz, Watford only got £15m for Emmanuel Dennis. Not seemingly much PL interest last Summer in Viktor Gyokeres, Joel Piroe, Karlan Grant or Andreas Weimann.
Hirst would've needed to have an exceptional season to be worth that sort of money at 24/25. | |
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| George Hirst on 10:24 - Dec 2 with 2093 views | tractorboy1978 |
| George Hirst on 09:27 - Dec 2 by itfcjoe |
If we'd have paid £3m and £10k a week then think it is the sort of investment that could really pay off - but he ended up signing at Leiciester for a reported £20-25k a week.
It doesn't sound like LCFC know what to do with him - but a good Champ loan spell this year or next and he's worth £15m so small risk for them |
A smaller risk for them as an established Premier League club than a £3m transfer fee and 3/4 year deal on £10k a week (plus increase in wages if we went up probably) would be for us.
If we go up this season then I think we can sign better as an ambitious Championship club with cash on the hip. | | | |
| George Hirst on 10:40 - Dec 2 with 2008 views | clive_baker |
| George Hirst on 10:16 - Dec 2 by jayessess |
Not sure the market for good Championship strikers is quite there anymore. No one wanted to offer more than £10m for Ben Brereton Diaz, Watford only got £15m for Emmanuel Dennis. Not seemingly much PL interest last Summer in Viktor Gyokeres, Joel Piroe, Karlan Grant or Andreas Weimann.
Hirst would've needed to have an exceptional season to be worth that sort of money at 24/25. |
There's obviously the English tax aspect with Hirst, and while he would be a Championship striker in the respect that that's where he had proven himself, Leicester as a Premier League club would be a position of strength compared with most Championship clubs looking to sell. What they really needed was for him to bang in 20+ goals this season, and then they would've had the choice of giving him a chance in what is a Leicester squad with a ageing forward options, or perhaps getting £10m - £15m from a Fulham type.
As it stands I think they would be lucky to achieve 20% of that. | |
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| George Hirst on 11:08 - Dec 2 with 1930 views | jayessess |
| George Hirst on 10:40 - Dec 2 by clive_baker |
There's obviously the English tax aspect with Hirst, and while he would be a Championship striker in the respect that that's where he had proven himself, Leicester as a Premier League club would be a position of strength compared with most Championship clubs looking to sell. What they really needed was for him to bang in 20+ goals this season, and then they would've had the choice of giving him a chance in what is a Leicester squad with a ageing forward options, or perhaps getting £10m - £15m from a Fulham type.
As it stands I think they would be lucky to achieve 20% of that. |
Very lucky, I'd say. He's 24 and failed in the Championship twice at this point. Once you factor in the big wages, I think they'd find it more or less impossible to get a fee for him. | |
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| George Hirst on 11:44 - Dec 2 with 1841 views | hype313 |
| George Hirst on 11:08 - Dec 2 by jayessess |
Very lucky, I'd say. He's 24 and failed in the Championship twice at this point. Once you factor in the big wages, I think they'd find it more or less impossible to get a fee for him. |
Didn't realise he is 24, thought he was 21 by the way people were talking. He's really past the one for the future at that age, just had a glance at his record, bar Pompey where he scored a few it looks slim pickings otherwise, 30 apps for Rotherham the season before without a goal.
Unless I'm missing something major, I'm struggling to see where a £3-4m price tag and his current £25k a week wage make sense? |  |
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| George Hirst on 11:49 - Dec 2 with 1823 views | clive_baker |
| George Hirst on 11:44 - Dec 2 by hype313 |
Didn't realise he is 24, thought he was 21 by the way people were talking. He's really past the one for the future at that age, just had a glance at his record, bar Pompey where he scored a few it looks slim pickings otherwise, 30 apps for Rotherham the season before without a goal.
Unless I'm missing something major, I'm struggling to see where a £3-4m price tag and his current £25k a week wage make sense? |
Think a lot of his Rotherham appearances were off the bench and also out of position to be fair to him. He did look class for Portsmouth, especially in the 2nd half of the season and has had a good reputation from a young age.
I would have him in a heartbeat but I'm not sure I would pay that sort of money for him. | |
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| George Hirst on 11:54 - Dec 2 with 1802 views | hype313 |
| George Hirst on 11:49 - Dec 2 by clive_baker |
Think a lot of his Rotherham appearances were off the bench and also out of position to be fair to him. He did look class for Portsmouth, especially in the 2nd half of the season and has had a good reputation from a young age.
I would have him in a heartbeat but I'm not sure I would pay that sort of money for him. |
Cheers, was going to caveat that those appearances must have been off the bench etc.
From what I've read he sounds good, with potential, but like you say the money being talked about seems really eye watering. | |
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| George Hirst on 12:11 - Dec 2 with 1758 views | jayessess |
| George Hirst on 11:54 - Dec 2 by hype313 |
Cheers, was going to caveat that those appearances must have been off the bench etc.
From what I've read he sounds good, with potential, but like you say the money being talked about seems really eye watering. |
It wasn't a lot of minutes to make an impact, but you'd also question why Rotherham, not a club with huge resources, didn't want to make more use of him.
In the Summer Hirst's career looked like someone who'd struggled as a fringe player and only put it together properly when he got that trust as a first choice option. The Blackburn stint makes it look more like he just can't cut it in the Championship. | |
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