| Plymouth and Ipswich fixture comparison; when do we catch them? (wibble) 14:24 - Jan 10 with 2615 views | unstableblue |
I got confused that our Morecombe game was the one in hand with Plymouth - its not; see upcoming fixture comparison
Jan
Sat 14th IPS - Plymouth (h); PLY - Ipswich (a)..... points difference -4
Sat 21st IPS - Oxford (a); PLY - Cheltenham (h)... -4
Tues 24th IPS - Morecombe (a); PLY - Accrington (a)... -4
Sat 28th - FA Cup weekend (both teams not playing; IPS - Accrington (h); PLY - DERBY (h).... -4
Feb
Sat 4th IPS - Cambridge (a); PLY - SHEFF WEDS (a)... -1
Sat 11th IPS - SHEFF WEDS (h); POMPEY (h)... -1
Tues 14th IPS - Bristol R (a); Oxford (a)... -1
Sat 18th Feb IPS - Forest Green Rovers (h); Fleetwood (h)... -1
Sat 25th Feb IPS - MK Dons (a); PETERBROUGH (A)... +1
My crystal ball predicts that we'll go a point above Plymouth, in front of 8000 blues at MK Dons.. with still a game in hand...
I have seen it .. BELIEVE
And it all starts Saturday... sing your hearts out my blue brothers and sisters
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| Plymouth and Ipswich fixture comparison; when do we catch them? (wibble) on 14:25 - Jan 10 with 2587 views | J2BLUE |
No one expected them to lose to Port Vale or us to lose to Lincoln. Every week is an opportunity and they will be thinking the same.
Just need to be relentless now. [Post edited 10 Jan 2023 14:37]
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| Plymouth and Ipswich fixture comparison; when do we catch them? (wibble) on 14:33 - Jan 10 with 2476 views | unstableblue |
| Plymouth and Ipswich fixture comparison; when do we catch them? (wibble) on 14:25 - Jan 10 by J2BLUE |
No one expected them to lose to Port Vale or us to lose to Lincoln. Every week is an opportunity and they will be thinking the same.
Just need to be relentless now. [Post edited 10 Jan 2023 14:37]
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'Relentless' is the word J2, add to it 'Ruthless' (in front of goal, where I think we now have the players to be savagely clinical), and finally 'Respectful' of the opposition, each game at a time - we spanked Oxford, but not after they'd given us a real game for 30mins... Morecombe are having a good season, they aren't going to turn up to PR under the lights and roll over. We are the scalp in the division.
Respectful, Relentless, Respectful = RUN (of wins and momentum)
We need a run of wins.. and let Plymouth have the unexpected results.
Still think we missed a huge opportunity to build momentum in giving away the Charlton lead in front of such scenes of support and adoration
But the run starts Saturday, has to, peg them back, BREAK THEM
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| Plymouth and Ipswich fixture comparison; when do we catch them? (wibble) on 14:37 - Jan 10 with 2446 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
I'm more focussed on being above Wednesday right now to be honest.
if you are a stats person like I am, my head tells me across 25 or however many games we should be able to win the league. That's not blind arrogance, its the fact that our stats are mental, we dominate games, even the ones we haven't won, its incredible really, we are also top scorers in the division and haven't at all been clinical. Hopefully Broadhead and Hirst can help Freddie out a bit.
That being said Plymouth are good, and have done some great business. Tyreik Wright and Callum Wright are good signings and Waine looks to be lively. Plus they have the best keeper in the division by miles.
I hate to say it, I think this might go down right to the end. I mean, us Plymouth and Wednesday, last day, 2 spots to play for. |  |
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| Plymouth and Ipswich fixture comparison; when do we catch them? (wibble) on 14:49 - Jan 10 with 2342 views | unstableblue |
| Plymouth and Ipswich fixture comparison; when do we catch them? (wibble) on 14:37 - Jan 10 by TRUE_BLUE123 |
I'm more focussed on being above Wednesday right now to be honest.
if you are a stats person like I am, my head tells me across 25 or however many games we should be able to win the league. That's not blind arrogance, its the fact that our stats are mental, we dominate games, even the ones we haven't won, its incredible really, we are also top scorers in the division and haven't at all been clinical. Hopefully Broadhead and Hirst can help Freddie out a bit.
That being said Plymouth are good, and have done some great business. Tyreik Wright and Callum Wright are good signings and Waine looks to be lively. Plus they have the best keeper in the division by miles.
I hate to say it, I think this might go down right to the end. I mean, us Plymouth and Wednesday, last day, 2 spots to play for. |
Agree. think it will go to the wire, as Plymouth have got some cash in the bank.
Shame about Weds, their fans were turning against Moore due to on pitch performance, but some feel good factor is back with the Cambridge and Newcastle results.. its momentum
I think McKenna has been brutal and pragmatic, profligate finishing from Harness and Ladapo (and in pat Chaplin) has cost of many points... as you say we are creating a lot of threat... adding more firepower had to be done.
And some insurance if super-influential Morsy is injured/suspended through Luongo.
As per JS and my note below... Respectful, relentless, ruthless - that's the mantra now... and we need a RUN | |
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| Plymouth and Ipswich fixture comparison; when do we catch them? (wibble) on 15:21 - Jan 10 with 2178 views | Stewart27 |
If we lose to them Saturday we don’t catch them. |  | | |
| Plymouth and Ipswich fixture comparison; when do we catch them? (wibble) on 15:22 - Jan 10 with 2171 views | OldFart71 |
Whilst no one can really moan about us being third I just hope with these new signings the stable door hasn't been shut after the horse has bolted. I say this in the hope that either Plymouth or Wednesday have a shaky spell and we go on an amazing run. Fact remains though that we have dropped a huge number of points through bad refereeing, missed chances, fluke goals against and last minute equalisers or defeats. I for one am not an advocate of the playoffs. In my opinion if you finish third and three go up, then the third placed are promoted. But how many times do we see the sixth placed team promoted. you wouldn't expect to back a horse e.w. paying three places and get paid if yours finished sixth would you. It's a rubbish system just developed to screw more money out of fans and to satisfy the Wembley coffers. | | | |
| Plymouth and Ipswich fixture comparison; when do we catch them? (wibble) on 15:38 - Jan 10 with 2078 views | homer_123 |
| Plymouth and Ipswich fixture comparison; when do we catch them? (wibble) on 15:21 - Jan 10 by Stewart27 |
If we lose to them Saturday we don’t catch them. |
As long as we finish second, I really don't care. |  |
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| Plymouth and Ipswich fixture comparison; when do we catch them? (wibble) on 16:10 - Jan 10 with 1916 views | gringoblue |
| Plymouth and Ipswich fixture comparison; when do we catch them? (wibble) on 15:22 - Jan 10 by OldFart71 |
Whilst no one can really moan about us being third I just hope with these new signings the stable door hasn't been shut after the horse has bolted. I say this in the hope that either Plymouth or Wednesday have a shaky spell and we go on an amazing run. Fact remains though that we have dropped a huge number of points through bad refereeing, missed chances, fluke goals against and last minute equalisers or defeats. I for one am not an advocate of the playoffs. In my opinion if you finish third and three go up, then the third placed are promoted. But how many times do we see the sixth placed team promoted. you wouldn't expect to back a horse e.w. paying three places and get paid if yours finished sixth would you. It's a rubbish system just developed to screw more money out of fans and to satisfy the Wembley coffers. |
These were the stats BEFORE the 2022 play offs:
Over the 34 years that the Football League/EFL have played play-offs, across all three divisions of the EFL the highest-placed team has gone on to win promotion 36.4% of the time, with the next place down (fourth in the Championship and League One, and fifth in League Two) going up 20.8% of the time, 19.8% going up from fifth (or sixth) place and 22.9% going up from sixth (or seventh) place).
Interestingly for the first few years the final wasn't at Wembley, so the play offs were not developed with that in mind. Apparently it was developed due to dwindling crowds / interest in the lower leagues in the mid-80s, and from that perspective you would have to say the play offs have been a success. |  | | |
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| Plymouth and Ipswich fixture comparison; when do we catch them? (wibble) on 16:36 - Jan 10 with 1781 views | blueislander |
| Plymouth and Ipswich fixture comparison; when do we catch them? (wibble) on 15:21 - Jan 10 by Stewart27 |
If we lose to them Saturday we don’t catch them. |
That’s the spirit.! Do you think we’re safe from relegation? | | | |
| Plymouth and Ipswich fixture comparison; when do we catch them? (wibble) on 16:49 - Jan 10 with 1715 views | Stewart27 |
| Plymouth and Ipswich fixture comparison; when do we catch them? (wibble) on 16:36 - Jan 10 by blueislander |
That’s the spirit.! Do you think we’re safe from relegation? |
Haha
I’m not negative. It’s just the OP asked when do we catch Plymouth. I think it’ll be close as to whether we will catch them, but don’t think we will at all if we lose Saturday. | | | |
| Plymouth and Ipswich fixture comparison; when do we catch them? (wibble) on 21:26 - Jan 10 with 1359 views | skinnybob72 |
| Plymouth and Ipswich fixture comparison; when do we catch them? (wibble) on 16:10 - Jan 10 by gringoblue |
These were the stats BEFORE the 2022 play offs:
Over the 34 years that the Football League/EFL have played play-offs, across all three divisions of the EFL the highest-placed team has gone on to win promotion 36.4% of the time, with the next place down (fourth in the Championship and League One, and fifth in League Two) going up 20.8% of the time, 19.8% going up from fifth (or sixth) place and 22.9% going up from sixth (or seventh) place).
Interestingly for the first few years the final wasn't at Wembley, so the play offs were not developed with that in mind. Apparently it was developed due to dwindling crowds / interest in the lower leagues in the mid-80s, and from that perspective you would have to say the play offs have been a success. |
I think the dwindling crowds are the thing. Look at this season where Plymouth, Wednesday and us have been top3 almost all season and have a decent gap to 4th.
Peterborough are at present 9th and are 15 points adrift of 3rd - if top3 go up automatically they're not really in the race and have little to play for. Introduce the play-offs and suddenly they are only 5 points off 6th and a shot at promotion and very much have something to play for.
Teams with something to play for will always get bigger crowds than if they had nothing to play for. The play-offs don't necessarily result in the best 3 teams over the season being promoted but they weren't designed to do so! | | | |
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