| Aluko 09:28 - Feb 15 with 1927 views | LeoMuff |
A bit worrying that he thinks we had “a lot of chances” to win the game, not what I saw. Burgess chance was a clear cut one, rest were mostly half chances for me. |  |
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| Aluko on 09:34 - Feb 15 with 1645 views | FrimleyBlue |
No different to KM.
21 shots. So the stats support it.
Watching it though really didn't feel like we had that many chances. |  |
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| Aluko on 09:34 - Feb 15 with 1645 views | Swansea_Blue |
That’s being a little bit pedantic isn’t it? Chances/half chances, he’s probably not being that specific. We certainly had chances to make something happen; quite a bit of time in and around their box, brief shooting chances not taken, crosses across edge of 6 yard box not capitalised upon. None were out and out sitters, but you’ll see plenty of goals over the season from similar positions. |  |
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| Aluko on 09:37 - Feb 15 with 1623 views | PhilTWTD |
I thought we had enough decent chances, Hirst's towards the end was a good opportunity off the top of my head and Burgess had three in the first half, Broadhead had another, Clarke another. That really ought to be enough to grab one goal. Unfortunately, as we've seen too often, we're just not clincal enough. |  | | |
| Aluko on 09:38 - Feb 15 with 1612 views | Parmigiano |
Our best chance was in the very first minute. The Humphreys shot from the corner. It was nestling right in the bottom corner before the keeper somehow got down to it in time.
But as soon as this and the Burgess chance didn't go in, you just knew it was going to be 0-0. |  | | |
| Semantics innit? on 09:40 - Feb 15 with 1605 views | Dyland |
Though you're right that there seems to be a lot of dressing stuff up. We look pretty impotent generally atm. iFollow lads kept talking about the pressure we were exerting (when we weren't making the goalie do anything) and all the chances we were creating (when we weren't making the goalie do anything). See the pattern!
Football ain't played on paper innit. |  |
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| Aluko on 09:42 - Feb 15 with 1595 views | Dyland |
| Aluko on 09:37 - Feb 15 by PhilTWTD |
I thought we had enough decent chances, Hirst's towards the end was a good opportunity off the top of my head and Burgess had three in the first half, Broadhead had another, Clarke another. That really ought to be enough to grab one goal. Unfortunately, as we've seen too often, we're just not clincal enough. |
Okay, semantics still, but I don't class that as "a lot of chances".
I thought we were ineffective and very average last night.
Meh :) | |
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| Aluko on 09:46 - Feb 15 with 1564 views | PhilTWTD |
| Aluko on 09:42 - Feb 15 by Dyland |
Okay, semantics still, but I don't class that as "a lot of chances".
I thought we were ineffective and very average last night.
Meh :) |
That ought and needs to be enough to win any game against a team just sitting in to frustrate. | | | |
| Aluko on 09:48 - Feb 15 with 1554 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| Aluko on 09:46 - Feb 15 by PhilTWTD |
That ought and needs to be enough to win any game against a team just sitting in to frustrate. |
Just sitting to frustrate is absolutely fine. We shouldn't complain about it. |  |
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| Aluko on 09:51 - Feb 15 with 1517 views | Dyland |
| Aluko on 09:46 - Feb 15 by PhilTWTD |
That ought and needs to be enough to win any game against a team just sitting in to frustrate. |
I just don't think, that for all this talk of chances, our chances are that good. Some maybe, but not all. Their goalie had, what, one good save to make? It's like the number of shots stat, that presumably includes every effort that bangs immediately into an oppo player (which happens a lot).
Basically I don't think it's just that we're not clinical enough... I think we've become ponderous and obvious as well, and lacking consistent penetration from driving forward with the ball. | |
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| Totally agree, it's what happens when resources are so different (n/t) on 09:52 - Feb 15 with 1512 views | Dyland |
| Aluko on 09:48 - Feb 15 by Marshalls_Mullet |
Just sitting to frustrate is absolutely fine. We shouldn't complain about it. |
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| Aluko on 09:52 - Feb 15 with 1509 views | LeoMuff |
| Aluko on 09:34 - Feb 15 by Swansea_Blue |
That’s being a little bit pedantic isn’t it? Chances/half chances, he’s probably not being that specific. We certainly had chances to make something happen; quite a bit of time in and around their box, brief shooting chances not taken, crosses across edge of 6 yard box not capitalised upon. None were out and out sitters, but you’ll see plenty of goals over the season from similar positions. |
Those you describe are exactly what we create, not clear cut - may result in a goal but often will not, time around their box is not a chance.
This for me is the problem if they think these are chances, we won’t be scoring too many goals from here on in. | |
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| Aluko on 09:54 - Feb 15 with 1486 views | Swansea_Blue |
Hirst at the near post a couple of times, Ladapo skewing well over from 12 yards out, Broadhead getting in behind and trying to squeeze a couple in at the near post, a couple of crosses we didn’t attack - one with Ladapo who took it with his back to goal 6 yards out, another Harness put over from a header when the ball was just behind him. Teams should normally pick something up from those situations. We either weren’t clinical enough, or weren’t making the right decisions and/or not attacking the ball in the box. Frustrating stuff. | |
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| yeh thinking about it there were a fair few on 09:59 - Feb 15 with 1460 views | Dyland |
| Aluko on 09:54 - Feb 15 by Swansea_Blue |
Hirst at the near post a couple of times, Ladapo skewing well over from 12 yards out, Broadhead getting in behind and trying to squeeze a couple in at the near post, a couple of crosses we didn’t attack - one with Ladapo who took it with his back to goal 6 yards out, another Harness put over from a header when the ball was just behind him. Teams should normally pick something up from those situations. We either weren’t clinical enough, or weren’t making the right decisions and/or not attacking the ball in the box. Frustrating stuff. |
Only a couple of those (Ladapo spannerring it into orbit e.g.) were not being clinical imo. Broadhead and Hirst e.g. both had shots from the tightest of angles that you'd not expect to go in every time even from the best players. | |
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| Totally agree, it's what happens when resources are so different (n/t) on 10:00 - Feb 15 with 1452 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| Totally agree, it's what happens when resources are so different (n/t) on 09:52 - Feb 15 by Dyland |
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Its partially self inflicted.
Because we are so very slow and predictable, its an easy tactic for them to employ. | |
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| Aluko on 10:01 - Feb 15 with 1450 views | LeoMuff |
| Aluko on 09:54 - Feb 15 by Swansea_Blue |
Hirst at the near post a couple of times, Ladapo skewing well over from 12 yards out, Broadhead getting in behind and trying to squeeze a couple in at the near post, a couple of crosses we didn’t attack - one with Ladapo who took it with his back to goal 6 yards out, another Harness put over from a header when the ball was just behind him. Teams should normally pick something up from those situations. We either weren’t clinical enough, or weren’t making the right decisions and/or not attacking the ball in the box. Frustrating stuff. |
Personally I think of those you describe you might expect to score 10 in a 100 at best, Hirsts chances were very low percentage - wide with the keeper covering, Broadhead a good chance, rest barely half chances.
A proper chance for me is 1 on 1 types, or the keeper making a fully stretched save, or someone blazing over from 6 yards, we don’t create the chances you will score 60 in 100 very often if at all. | |
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| yeh thinking about it there were a fair few on 10:02 - Feb 15 with 1437 views | tractorboy1978 |
| yeh thinking about it there were a fair few on 09:59 - Feb 15 by Dyland |
Only a couple of those (Ladapo spannerring it into orbit e.g.) were not being clinical imo. Broadhead and Hirst e.g. both had shots from the tightest of angles that you'd not expect to go in every time even from the best players. |
Humphreys should have scored within a minute. We've done that a few times this season, worked a clever training ground routine corner and not executed the final finish. Evans at Lincoln springs to mind straight away too. |  | | |
| Aluko on 10:13 - Feb 15 with 1388 views | Wickets |
| Aluko on 09:34 - Feb 15 by FrimleyBlue |
No different to KM.
21 shots. So the stats support it.
Watching it though really didn't feel like we had that many chances. |
Never looked likely to score from the 6th minute onwards for me . The usual slow ponderous build up playing into their hands really . |  | | |
| Aluko on 10:14 - Feb 15 with 1375 views | PhilTWTD |
| Aluko on 09:48 - Feb 15 by Marshalls_Mullet |
Just sitting to frustrate is absolutely fine. We shouldn't complain about it. |
I'm not, was happy to cheer Mick's teams winning while taking the same approach, so would be churlish to moan too much. It clearly works against us, so teams are going to do it. | | | |
| Totally agree, it's what happens when resources are so different (n/t) on 10:16 - Feb 15 with 1333 views | PhilTWTD |
| Totally agree, it's what happens when resources are so different (n/t) on 10:00 - Feb 15 by Marshalls_Mullet |
Its partially self inflicted.
Because we are so very slow and predictable, its an easy tactic for them to employ. |
I think the slowness is a result of teams sitting in. You can't play particularly quickly and slickly until you're in and around the area where it's very tight and difficult to play through. | | | |
| Totally agree, it's what happens when resources are so different (n/t) on 10:18 - Feb 15 with 1306 views | Dyland |
| Totally agree, it's what happens when resources are so different (n/t) on 10:16 - Feb 15 by PhilTWTD |
I think the slowness is a result of teams sitting in. You can't play particularly quickly and slickly until you're in and around the area where it's very tight and difficult to play through. |
Indeed, and McKenna needs to find a plan b and c. Presumably (?) teams do this against the other top sides in this div. Do Argyle have far superior players than us? Nah. | |
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| Aluko on 10:34 - Feb 15 with 1129 views | homer_123 |
| Aluko on 10:01 - Feb 15 by LeoMuff |
Personally I think of those you describe you might expect to score 10 in a 100 at best, Hirsts chances were very low percentage - wide with the keeper covering, Broadhead a good chance, rest barely half chances.
A proper chance for me is 1 on 1 types, or the keeper making a fully stretched save, or someone blazing over from 6 yards, we don’t create the chances you will score 60 in 100 very often if at all. |
Well, looking at the Sheff Wed game, we certainly created two to win the game.
Chaplins free header from the corner from about 8 yards, Ladapos pulled shot from the pen spot past the far post. Two proper chances.
Wednesday first goal against us, was an excellent glancing header, not a 'proper' chance at all, the second, yes, was.
At the moment, we simply are not converting anything like we were in the first half of the season - we are still creating though. |  |
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| Aluko on 10:44 - Feb 15 with 1085 views | hadleighboyblue |
| Aluko on 09:51 - Feb 15 by Dyland |
I just don't think, that for all this talk of chances, our chances are that good. Some maybe, but not all. Their goalie had, what, one good save to make? It's like the number of shots stat, that presumably includes every effort that bangs immediately into an oppo player (which happens a lot).
Basically I don't think it's just that we're not clinical enough... I think we've become ponderous and obvious as well, and lacking consistent penetration from driving forward with the ball. |
Apart from 2 early chances for Burgess ,Bristol had better chances than us . | | | |
| Totally agree, it's what happens when resources are so different (n/t) on 10:46 - Feb 15 with 1065 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| Totally agree, it's what happens when resources are so different (n/t) on 10:16 - Feb 15 by PhilTWTD |
I think the slowness is a result of teams sitting in. You can't play particularly quickly and slickly until you're in and around the area where it's very tight and difficult to play through. |
Its a bit of both, and we need to be less predictable.
We are far too easy to play against.
We need to stop playing the victim. | |
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| Totally agree, it's what happens when resources are so different (n/t) on 10:50 - Feb 15 with 1015 views | Ryorry |
| Totally agree, it's what happens when resources are so different (n/t) on 10:16 - Feb 15 by PhilTWTD |
I think the slowness is a result of teams sitting in. You can't play particularly quickly and slickly until you're in and around the area where it's very tight and difficult to play through. |
I mentioned last night that where we do create great chances that I think would be put away 90% of the time by other top 6 sides - eg that low cross from the right in the first half that flashed right across the face of goal with (for once) no forest of defensive legs in the way - there never seems to be a Town player there to turn it in. Poor positioning & lack of anticipation by strikers - down to the continual rotation meaning partnerships & understandings aren't built up? |  |
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| Totally agree, it's what happens when resources are so different (n/t) on 10:54 - Feb 15 with 981 views | PhilTWTD |
| Totally agree, it's what happens when resources are so different (n/t) on 10:50 - Feb 15 by Ryorry |
I mentioned last night that where we do create great chances that I think would be put away 90% of the time by other top 6 sides - eg that low cross from the right in the first half that flashed right across the face of goal with (for once) no forest of defensive legs in the way - there never seems to be a Town player there to turn it in. Poor positioning & lack of anticipation by strikers - down to the continual rotation meaning partnerships & understandings aren't built up? |
Agree, there are a lot of situations where a bit more sharpness would see us score. Hirst and Broadhead are still finding their feet to some extent and think it was that that was part of what they were brought in to add. | | | |
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