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Now it may be accepted wisdom that the average rightie does not feature too high in the intellect rating. But you would think even they could grasp that
With Johnson's Withdrawal Agreement, Northern Ireland stayed inside the EU Customs Union, and so has to follow the rules of that customs union.
But not being a member of the EU, Northern Ireland has no say about these customs rules it has to follow.
If this means there is a "Democratic Deficit" for Northern Ireland, then it is a deficit imposed on them by Sunak & all the other thick Tory MPs when they voted for Johnson's agreement back in 2020.
And for the bloater to now whinge about the agreement he signed should be a level of hypocricy that even brexit thickos can grasp.
And remember him telling NI voters that any agreement won't be......what he actually signed
Being pi ssed does not excuse you not understanding your brief, nor making up any old sh it that comes into your head (though some might suggest that is the default setting for the lardy liar).
The problem with Brexit is that it had no intellectual coherence and was a serious of contradictions.
For example, it was lauded as boosting trade, whilst at the same time putting up trade barriers. And last year net inward migration was at the highest it's ever been, despite Brexit being about taking back control of borders.
And of course he is now trying to stymie any chance that Sunak has of getting the latest offer across the line by bring up the legislation to disapply parts of the Northern Ireland protocol. Seems he is still hankering for the hardest of hard Brexit. I suppose with all the new deals, the UK will be well able to handle a trade war with the EU.
BTW there has been a "Democratic Deficit" in Northern Ireland long before Brexit.
And of course he is now trying to stymie any chance that Sunak has of getting the latest offer across the line by bring up the legislation to disapply parts of the Northern Ireland protocol. Seems he is still hankering for the hardest of hard Brexit. I suppose with all the new deals, the UK will be well able to handle a trade war with the EU.
BTW there has been a "Democratic Deficit" in Northern Ireland long before Brexit.
Give Sunak his due (at least on this if not other areas of Brexit), he seems to be the first adult in the room since Theresa May departed the scene.
The crazy thing about the Protocol is that it actually gives Northern Ireland a tremendous opportunity to take advantage of both the EU market and the UK market. And those lucky people born in Northern Ireland can also claim an EU passport.
But it seems to me the only thing the DUP have had in mind by voting for Brexit and since is trying to make Irish unity more difficult, although I am not sure it has turned out quite as they planned.
Give Sunak his due (at least on this if not other areas of Brexit), he seems to be the first adult in the room since Theresa May departed the scene.
The crazy thing about the Protocol is that it actually gives Northern Ireland a tremendous opportunity to take advantage of both the EU market and the UK market. And those lucky people born in Northern Ireland can also claim an EU passport.
But it seems to me the only thing the DUP have had in mind by voting for Brexit and since is trying to make Irish unity more difficult, although I am not sure it has turned out quite as they planned.
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He still thinks Brexit is a good idea though. He's not 'an adult in the room'.
I'm one of the people who was blamed for getting Paul Cook sacked. PM for the full post.
Johnson is doing no more than he ever does - self promotion. Though as thick as he is you would imagin even he could work out the stupidity of ranting against a deal he promoted (oven ready) and signed
It is a bit like the Tories are now wjining because they have just discivered that Xmas day is going to be on the 25th Decwember this year. This was clearly pointed out before the referendim, and continuously up to signing the bloaters cave in.
This week it has been the turn of the farmers to be the duty brexit whiners. Imagine voting for something that would allow 'dodgy' meat into the country and then not think it wouldn't impact on their production. Vote for something that put a block on East European laboutr and then think it would not impact of their fruit/veg harvesting.
But that all pales into nothing compared to the brexiters whine about EU rules. To sell into the EU, UK exporters have to comply with EU standards.............. yes, so EU rules will still be in force whatever the DUP and brexit cranks demand. Only now they do not get a say.
And given how the UK is still tradimng inder EU schedules then it is still coomplying with EU rules when exporting, though not enjoying the benefits of being in a free market and so a having to deal with far more costs, delays and regulations by not being in the EU.
The problem is most brexiters are too thick to grasp even this simple thought - all the responsibilty with none of the rights
He still thinks Brexit is a good idea though. He's not 'an adult in the room'.
Does he think it’s a good idea? Clueless he is, but I doubt even he’s not that thick.
Brexit is untouchable by politicians at the moment and won’t be talked about until the tory claws are prised off what’s left of this country. Starmer is meant to be intelligent. I hope he’s at least doing some work behind the scenes to start reversing some of this disaster when he can.
Does he think it’s a good idea? Clueless he is, but I doubt even he’s not that thick.
Brexit is untouchable by politicians at the moment and won’t be talked about until the tory claws are prised off what’s left of this country. Starmer is meant to be intelligent. I hope he’s at least doing some work behind the scenes to start reversing some of this disaster when he can.
Hard to know isn’t it? He’s always publicly presented a pro-Brexit front and voted for pro-Brexit policies. That doesn’t mean a lot though - I image he’d be a staunch re-joiner if that was the way the political wind was blowing.
Does he think it’s a good idea? Clueless he is, but I doubt even he’s not that thick.
Brexit is untouchable by politicians at the moment and won’t be talked about until the tory claws are prised off what’s left of this country. Starmer is meant to be intelligent. I hope he’s at least doing some work behind the scenes to start reversing some of this disaster when he can.
the revesal has long sincw been in operation, if only at the beginning import controls were not implemented - now looking like they have given up on that 'taking back control'. And Truss's attempt at brexit economics blew up in her face.
Work permits have yet again been increased, with further increases ahead.
Meanwhile farmers are right to whine as Mexico follows the lead of Aus/NZ and demands that the UK allows it's beef into the th country.
Wasn't supposed to be like this (despite being told it would be) was it ? 40 new deals on day one and more to follow. So far, Japan ...UK worse off. And AUS/NZ signed, leaving UK farmers worse off, though still not ratified by the UK. US was going to be a 'bigly' deal, now long sinced given up on. India, signed by last autumn, now forgotten.
The sheer stupidity that underpinned this lunacy would be hard to believe were you not to have talked with a brexiter. Far better to go through a rough neighbour hood on your own than as part of a gang, they squeaked.
However the real concern must be, how much damage will brexit have done by the time the UK rejoins the EU ?
And while we are in Brexit, food shortages. The excuse for no fruit and veg is weather in Spain and N Africa. So why are the shelves in Europe groaning with produce?
Because of the word nobody dare mention. Food shortage in the run up to Brexit was a key risk and is now an issue. If you are an exporter, why would you risk exporting to this country with the added cost and risk of produce spoiling in border delays? You wouldn’t. The sane ones will find other markets and have done.
Despite promises farming in this country is not being supported so the amount of food produced here will continue to fall unless prices rise massively to make it worth producers while. They call it ‘food security’. There isn’t any. I call it a disaster made in Britain.
I can see food shortages only getting worse. Much worse. I would introduce rationing right here and now so the most vulnerable will be able to put some food on the table going forward to when the real shortages kick in. If they can afford it. But I know for a fact government see it as electoral death and when it comes to it doesn’t care.
The best that pilsbury dough faced woman Coffey come up with was that nobody could do anything about the weather in Morocco. Very true and very irrelevant. Bit like Coffey.
And while we are in Brexit, food shortages. The excuse for no fruit and veg is weather in Spain and N Africa. So why are the shelves in Europe groaning with produce?
Because of the word nobody dare mention. Food shortage in the run up to Brexit was a key risk and is now an issue. If you are an exporter, why would you risk exporting to this country with the added cost and risk of produce spoiling in border delays? You wouldn’t. The sane ones will find other markets and have done.
Despite promises farming in this country is not being supported so the amount of food produced here will continue to fall unless prices rise massively to make it worth producers while. They call it ‘food security’. There isn’t any. I call it a disaster made in Britain.
I can see food shortages only getting worse. Much worse. I would introduce rationing right here and now so the most vulnerable will be able to put some food on the table going forward to when the real shortages kick in. If they can afford it. But I know for a fact government see it as electoral death and when it comes to it doesn’t care.
The best that pilsbury dough faced woman Coffey come up with was that nobody could do anything about the weather in Morocco. Very true and very irrelevant. Bit like Coffey.
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Interestingly, one of the objectives of the Common Agriculture Policy is to secure availability of supplies.