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EDIT: Additionally, "Teachers in Scotland have already accepted a 7 per cent rise for 2022/23, which will be backdated to April. They have also accepted a 5 per cent rise in April 2023, and a 2 per cent uplift in January 2024.
Meanwhile, NEU members in Wales have agreed on an increased pay offer of 8 per cent for 2022/23, which consists of a 6.5 per cent rise and a one-off lump sum payment, as well as a 5 per cent increase for 2023/24."
It's an outrageous offer. The government have said that 4% will have to be funded by the schools themselves, so taking money directly from the students! The fact the offer does not even offer parity with Wales and Scotland is an even bigger kick in the teeth. Any further teacher strikes are firmly on the government.
Distortion becomes somehow pure in its wildness.
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More teaching strikes on 22:21 - Mar 27 with 1654 views
More teaching strikes on 22:18 - Mar 27 by Whos_blue
It's an outrageous offer. The government have said that 4% will have to be funded by the schools themselves, so taking money directly from the students! The fact the offer does not even offer parity with Wales and Scotland is an even bigger kick in the teeth. Any further teacher strikes are firmly on the government.
The tactic is 'hope the union members reject so we can spin about greedy unions and continue to underfund so we can find a reason to privatise'.
As has been stated the offer is insulting and disrespectful, but then they are at war with the public sector so no surprise there. For me, it’s not for debate, it should be rejected.
I notice multi millionaire Dowden, who has never had a real job, in the Guardian article is bleating about how hard it is to fund £1.5bn for the NHS offer. Easy enough to find the £12m for PPE (£4bn burned and buried) and £37bn for a track and trace system that didn’t work. Click of the fingers and for their mates, the money was there as fast as spanked-rear-end face Dowden and oily chums could write the cheques.
Go away and start paying these people what they are worth. Whether it’s NHS people saving lives or teachers developing young people for the future, they are worth a decent wage. This work is vocational. Stop taking the p£ss and pay them properly.
Edit: so Oliver, who is going to pay? Well the attached might be a starting point. Shame they took an axe to tax inspectors under ‘austerity’ eh?
More teaching strikes on 00:11 - Mar 28 by Churchman
As has been stated the offer is insulting and disrespectful, but then they are at war with the public sector so no surprise there. For me, it’s not for debate, it should be rejected.
I notice multi millionaire Dowden, who has never had a real job, in the Guardian article is bleating about how hard it is to fund £1.5bn for the NHS offer. Easy enough to find the £12m for PPE (£4bn burned and buried) and £37bn for a track and trace system that didn’t work. Click of the fingers and for their mates, the money was there as fast as spanked-rear-end face Dowden and oily chums could write the cheques.
Go away and start paying these people what they are worth. Whether it’s NHS people saving lives or teachers developing young people for the future, they are worth a decent wage. This work is vocational. Stop taking the p£ss and pay them properly.
Edit: so Oliver, who is going to pay? Well the attached might be a starting point. Shame they took an axe to tax inspectors under ‘austerity’ eh?
More teaching strikes on 22:08 - Mar 27 by Nthsuffolkblue
Insulting frankly.
Speaking of insulting, I've had a very carefully worded email of 'recommendation' from Unison essentially blaming local members for not turning out for the strike ballot for the piss poor offer.
This would be the local branch who didn't bother trying to campaign or engage with local members until a week before the vote.
[Post edited 28 Mar 2023 2:05]
I'm one of the people who was blamed for getting Paul Cook sacked. PM for the full post.
Teachers and nurses should just get a better job, or something.
Perhaps tell the nurses that next time you need care eh? Laughter is the best tonic so I'm sure it will help. The pay structure of our society obviously benefits parasites, not the essential services we all need. Teachers and nurses jobs should be better paid obviously.
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More teaching strikes on 08:22 - Mar 28 with 1310 views
More teaching strikes on 00:11 - Mar 28 by Churchman
As has been stated the offer is insulting and disrespectful, but then they are at war with the public sector so no surprise there. For me, it’s not for debate, it should be rejected.
I notice multi millionaire Dowden, who has never had a real job, in the Guardian article is bleating about how hard it is to fund £1.5bn for the NHS offer. Easy enough to find the £12m for PPE (£4bn burned and buried) and £37bn for a track and trace system that didn’t work. Click of the fingers and for their mates, the money was there as fast as spanked-rear-end face Dowden and oily chums could write the cheques.
Go away and start paying these people what they are worth. Whether it’s NHS people saving lives or teachers developing young people for the future, they are worth a decent wage. This work is vocational. Stop taking the p£ss and pay them properly.
Edit: so Oliver, who is going to pay? Well the attached might be a starting point. Shame they took an axe to tax inspectors under ‘austerity’ eh?
Agreed it's a terrible offer. Teachers are leaving the profession left, right and centre and there's no way the sector can continue to properly function on existing pay levels.
Although £37bn track and trace is a bit misleading because that was mostly spent on testing rather than the app and the tracing system.
Perhaps tell the nurses that next time you need care eh? Laughter is the best tonic so I'm sure it will help. The pay structure of our society obviously benefits parasites, not the essential services we all need. Teachers and nurses jobs should be better paid obviously.
Agreed. In the case of teachers I’d like to see wage increases attract a much more talented pool of candidates to consider the profession.
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More teaching strikes on 08:56 - Mar 28 with 1265 views
Agreed it's a terrible offer. Teachers are leaving the profession left, right and centre and there's no way the sector can continue to properly function on existing pay levels.
Although £37bn track and trace is a bit misleading because that was mostly spent on testing rather than the app and the tracing system.
Perhaps tell the nurses that next time you need care eh? Laughter is the best tonic so I'm sure it will help. The pay structure of our society obviously benefits parasites, not the essential services we all need. Teachers and nurses jobs should be better paid obviously.
More teaching strikes on 08:56 - Mar 28 by Churchman
Fair enough. I look forward to the full breakdown of where the money went, but I suspect we will have to wait for a new govt to learn that.
The basic principle is sound. The money is there if the government needs or wants to find it.
Attached is a graph showing the government’s public spending over time and a breakdown of where the money goes.
Your point’s broadly spot on, even if we take out the testing element of track and trace. The amount of waste and financial mismanagement by these charlatans is off the charts. It’s costing us tens to hundreds of £billions. Never again should people believe the lie that the Tories are the prudent party. It was a lie before, as roughly speaking all parties have been much of a muchness on macroeconomics. That they’re good with the economy is an even more ridiculous proposition now.
More teaching strikes on 09:05 - Mar 28 by Swansea_Blue
Your point’s broadly spot on, even if we take out the testing element of track and trace. The amount of waste and financial mismanagement by these charlatans is off the charts. It’s costing us tens to hundreds of £billions. Never again should people believe the lie that the Tories are the prudent party. It was a lie before, as roughly speaking all parties have been much of a muchness on macroeconomics. That they’re good with the economy is an even more ridiculous proposition now.
[Post edited 28 Mar 2023 9:06]
I think the economic nonsense of austerity, reliance on long disproved trickle down economics, Brexit and Truss budget (if you can call that uncosted fag packet mess a budget) are ample proof that they are a disaster with the economy.
Back to the difficulty of finding £1.5bn for the NHS, according to who you read the cost of preparing for Brexit ranges between £4bn and £8bn depending on who you read. My guess is that it was a lot more than that, before you factor in the 4% estimated hit on the economy.
When the cost of preparing for Brexit was raised at Select Committee, the answer was that there was no budget. It would cost what it cost and the government would have to pay. The conservative MP, who asked the question, eyes swivelled a bit but kept his flaccid mouth shut. That is how it was and had to be. It’s on public record. The point is, the money was found.
So however much I misinterpreted Track and Trace costs, the basic point stands in my view.
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