| Can anyone explain why thats offside when Beto intentionally plays the ball? (n/t) 16:54 - Sep 17 with 2231 views | Simonds92 |
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| Can anyone explain why thats offside when Beto intentionally plays the ball? (n/ on 16:55 - Sep 17 with 2224 views | SitfcB |
Bizarre. Even without that I don’t think there’s an offside. |  |
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| Can anyone explain why thats offside when Beto intentionally plays the ball? (n/ on 17:00 - Sep 17 with 2184 views | LankHenners |
Well he doesn't intentionally play it though really, just sticks a leg out to block the pass and it rebounds all the way through to Nketiah.
Neville is so stupid going on about the lines and angles, just a total misunderstanding about how they work from someone who should (and given he's the co-comm, needs to) know better. |  |
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| Can anyone explain why thats offside when Beto intentionally plays the ball? (n/ on 17:14 - Sep 17 with 2131 views | Simonds92 |
| Can anyone explain why thats offside when Beto intentionally plays the ball? (n/ on 17:00 - Sep 17 by LankHenners |
Well he doesn't intentionally play it though really, just sticks a leg out to block the pass and it rebounds all the way through to Nketiah.
Neville is so stupid going on about the lines and angles, just a total misunderstanding about how they work from someone who should (and given he's the co-comm, needs to) know better. |
He makes an intentional movement towards the ball while Gabriel passes it backwards. There's no way that should be given as offside, it's mad. | | | |
| Can anyone explain why thats offside when Beto intentionally plays the ball? (n/ on 17:24 - Sep 17 with 2077 views | LankHenners |
| Can anyone explain why thats offside when Beto intentionally plays the ball? (n/ on 17:14 - Sep 17 by Simonds92 |
He makes an intentional movement towards the ball while Gabriel passes it backwards. There's no way that should be given as offside, it's mad. |
That doesn't mean he played it intentionally.
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| Can anyone explain why thats offside when Beto intentionally plays the ball? (n/ on 17:30 - Sep 17 with 2051 views | Ftnfwest |
Not sure I understand this one as regardless of what Beto does, Gabriel is playing the ball sideways, not forward anyway. He’s certainly not trying to find nketiah |  | | |
| Can anyone explain why thats offside when Beto intentionally plays the ball? (n/ on 17:34 - Sep 17 with 2030 views | longtimefan |
| Can anyone explain why thats offside when Beto intentionally plays the ball? (n/ on 17:30 - Sep 17 by Ftnfwest |
Not sure I understand this one as regardless of what Beto does, Gabriel is playing the ball sideways, not forward anyway. He’s certainly not trying to find nketiah |
It was marginal but the ball goes slightly forward not sideways. Correct decision for me given the current interpretation of the law, not that I necessarily agree with that interpretation! | | | |
| Can anyone explain why thats offside when Beto intentionally plays the ball? (n/ on 17:37 - Sep 17 with 2002 views | Simonds92 |
| Can anyone explain why thats offside when Beto intentionally plays the ball? (n/ on 17:24 - Sep 17 by LankHenners |
That doesn't mean he played it intentionally.
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Fair enough, I guess the instinctive stretching aspect covers this scenario, thanks! | | | |
| Can anyone explain why thats offside when Beto intentionally plays the ball? (n/ on 23:47 - Sep 17 with 1775 views | berkstractorboy |
| Can anyone explain why thats offside when Beto intentionally plays the ball? (n/ on 17:24 - Sep 17 by LankHenners |
That doesn't mean he played it intentionally.
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If he isn't intentionally trying to play the ball he shouldn't stick his leg out. the officials all collectively got this wrong. | | | |
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| Can anyone explain why thats offside when Beto intentionally plays the ball? (n/ on 00:06 - Sep 18 with 1744 views | LankHenners |
| Can anyone explain why thats offside when Beto intentionally plays the ball? (n/ on 23:47 - Sep 17 by berkstractorboy |
If he isn't intentionally trying to play the ball he shouldn't stick his leg out. the officials all collectively got this wrong. |
No, because by the rules (whether you think they're good or not) sticking your leg out to block a pass in that manner doesn't count as 'intentionally playing the ball'. | |
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| Can anyone explain why thats offside when Beto intentionally plays the ball? (n/ on 07:29 - Sep 18 with 1639 views | WeWereZombies |
It's because of the #Be Too movement...sorry, had to get that one out of my system or it will have hung around all day. |  |
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| Can anyone explain why thats offside when Beto intentionally plays the ball? (n/ on 08:21 - Sep 18 with 1582 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Can anyone explain why thats offside when Beto intentionally plays the ball? (n/ on 17:14 - Sep 17 by Simonds92 |
He makes an intentional movement towards the ball while Gabriel passes it backwards. There's no way that should be given as offside, it's mad. |
“It was not a case of instinctive stretching, jumping, or a limited movement that achieved limited contact/control”.
So completely clear. He didn’t ’deliberately play’ the ball, he just kicked it. It’s completely different 
I look forward to them not crediting goals to players who’ve stuck out a leg/head instinctively.
I wonder what Brian Clough would make of today’s rubbish. |  |
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| Can anyone explain why thats offside when Beto intentionally plays the ball? (n/ on 08:25 - Sep 18 with 1577 views | JakeITFC |
| Can anyone explain why thats offside when Beto intentionally plays the ball? (n/ on 17:30 - Sep 17 by Ftnfwest |
Not sure I understand this one as regardless of what Beto does, Gabriel is playing the ball sideways, not forward anyway. He’s certainly not trying to find nketiah |
Weirdly, I’m not sure you have to pass the ball forward for a player to be offside. Think I remember an odd one before with a short corner catching someone and it being controversial in that regard. |  | | |
| Can anyone explain why thats offside when Beto intentionally plays the ball? (n/ on 08:32 - Sep 18 with 1562 views | Wickets |
| Can anyone explain why thats offside when Beto intentionally plays the ball? (n/ on 17:30 - Sep 17 by Ftnfwest |
Not sure I understand this one as regardless of what Beto does, Gabriel is playing the ball sideways, not forward anyway. He’s certainly not trying to find nketiah |
That's what I could not understand Gabriel does not play the ball forward ! |  | | |
| Can anyone explain why thats offside when Beto intentionally plays the ball? (n/ on 08:36 - Sep 18 with 1547 views | redrickstuhaart |
| Can anyone explain why thats offside when Beto intentionally plays the ball? (n/ on 08:32 - Sep 18 by Wickets |
That's what I could not understand Gabriel does not play the ball forward ! |
The answer is "because they broke and over complicated the offside rule (unecessarily) to appease bad pundits who didn't understand it and who couldn't grasp the essential role of a referee exercising judgment"
See also "handball". | | | |
| Can anyone explain why thats offside when Beto intentionally plays the ball? (n/ on 09:20 - Sep 18 with 1519 views | berkstractorboy |
| Can anyone explain why thats offside when Beto intentionally plays the ball? (n/ on 00:06 - Sep 18 by LankHenners |
No, because by the rules (whether you think they're good or not) sticking your leg out to block a pass in that manner doesn't count as 'intentionally playing the ball'. |
Yes its the Laws that are wrong it's nonsense not to call that deliberate. A team penalised for a ball going absolutely nowhere near where it was being played. Football has become such nonsense now. [Post edited 18 Sep 2023 9:22]
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| Can anyone explain why thats offside when Beto intentionally plays the ball? (n/ on 10:14 - Sep 18 with 1469 views | LankHenners |
| Can anyone explain why thats offside when Beto intentionally plays the ball? (n/ on 09:20 - Sep 18 by berkstractorboy |
Yes its the Laws that are wrong it's nonsense not to call that deliberate. A team penalised for a ball going absolutely nowhere near where it was being played. Football has become such nonsense now. [Post edited 18 Sep 2023 9:22]
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That specific scenario is a bit odd (and rare) but the rules are there to stop goalhanging essentially. Otherwise you're saying you'd be happy to see someone stick out a leg to block a shot or cross, have the ball bounce through to someone in the 6 yard box way beyond the line of defence and score, which would seem very unfair to me. | |
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| Can anyone explain why thats offside when Beto intentionally plays the ball? (n/ on 11:06 - Sep 18 with 1439 views | berkstractorboy |
| Can anyone explain why thats offside when Beto intentionally plays the ball? (n/ on 10:14 - Sep 18 by LankHenners |
That specific scenario is a bit odd (and rare) but the rules are there to stop goalhanging essentially. Otherwise you're saying you'd be happy to see someone stick out a leg to block a shot or cross, have the ball bounce through to someone in the 6 yard box way beyond the line of defence and score, which would seem very unfair to me. |
No not advocating goalhanging but you get my point for that scenario a team should not be penalised as they still had work to do to get the goal.
Everton are stealing a living in the EPL I am glad the right result at the end. | | | |
| Can anyone explain why thats offside when Beto intentionally plays the ball? (n/ on 11:23 - Sep 18 with 1399 views | LankHenners |
| Can anyone explain why thats offside when Beto intentionally plays the ball? (n/ on 11:06 - Sep 18 by berkstractorboy |
No not advocating goalhanging but you get my point for that scenario a team should not be penalised as they still had work to do to get the goal.
Everton are stealing a living in the EPL I am glad the right result at the end. |
Yeah I agree it's a bit strange and seems harsh considering the circumstances but to rule out more obvious things like goal hanging it'll throw up something like this once in a while where the same rules apply. | |
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