| Nice to see they've got their priorities straight part 7867865746352324341 16:14 - Dec 11 with 4532 views | BlueBadger |
Are we allowed to say 'sleepwalking into fascism' yet? |  |
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| Nice to see they've got their priorities straight part 7867865746352324341 on 16:17 - Dec 11 with 2209 views | lowhouseblue |
you think that german fascism was characterised by government ministers making waspish comments on social media? hmmmm. |  |
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| Nice to see they've got their priorities straight part 7867865746352324341 on 16:21 - Dec 11 with 2186 views | Herbivore |
| Nice to see they've got their priorities straight part 7867865746352324341 on 16:17 - Dec 11 by lowhouseblue |
you think that german fascism was characterised by government ministers making waspish comments on social media? hmmmm. |
He hasn't mentioned German fascism. That wasn't the only brand. |  |
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| Nice to see they've got their priorities straight part 7867865746352324341 on 16:22 - Dec 11 with 2176 views | BlueBadger |
| Nice to see they've got their priorities straight part 7867865746352324341 on 16:17 - Dec 11 by lowhouseblue |
you think that german fascism was characterised by government ministers making waspish comments on social media? hmmmm. |
Hope it's keeping mild in Stockholm for you there. | |
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| Nice to see they've got their priorities straight part 7867865746352324341 on 16:23 - Dec 11 with 2162 views | lowhouseblue |
| Nice to see they've got their priorities straight part 7867865746352324341 on 16:21 - Dec 11 by Herbivore |
He hasn't mentioned German fascism. That wasn't the only brand. |
well pick another historical example then - i'm still sure it involved something more than politicians being a bit sarcastic. | |
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| Nice to see they've got their priorities straight part 7867865746352324341 on 16:25 - Dec 11 with 2139 views | BlueBadger |
| Nice to see they've got their priorities straight part 7867865746352324341 on 16:21 - Dec 11 by Herbivore |
He hasn't mentioned German fascism. That wasn't the only brand. |
Ironically, nazi Germany was also very keen on universities toeing the party line and getting into the kind of hollow patriotism that deputy PM Tea Martin is bang into.
And they certainly weren't above making sh1t up for for people to be angry about in order to provide justifications for their actions, either. | |
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| Nice to see they've got their priorities straight part 7867865746352324341 on 16:26 - Dec 11 with 2138 views | BlueBadger |
| Nice to see they've got their priorities straight part 7867865746352324341 on 16:23 - Dec 11 by lowhouseblue |
well pick another historical example then - i'm still sure it involved something more than politicians being a bit sarcastic. |
Tea Martin wasn't being sarky tho.
You appear to be confusing veiled threats for not being patriotic enough with sarcasm.
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| Nice to see they've got their priorities straight part 7867865746352324341 on 16:28 - Dec 11 with 2112 views | lowhouseblue |
| Nice to see they've got their priorities straight part 7867865746352324341 on 16:26 - Dec 11 by BlueBadger |
Tea Martin wasn't being sarky tho.
You appear to be confusing veiled threats for not being patriotic enough with sarcasm.
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oliver dowden clearly was though. | |
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| Nice to see they've got their priorities straight part 7867865746352324341 on 16:29 - Dec 11 with 2094 views | BlueBadger |
| Nice to see they've got their priorities straight part 7867865746352324341 on 16:28 - Dec 11 by lowhouseblue |
oliver dowden clearly was though. |
Tea Martin isn't clever enough for sarcasm. | |
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| Nice to see they've got their priorities straight part 7867865746352324341 on 16:31 - Dec 11 with 2088 views | Blueschev |
I've been to 3 graduation ceremonies and the national anthem was played at none of them. Is it a common thing to happen? |  | | |
| Nice to see they've got their priorities straight part 7867865746352324341 on 16:33 - Dec 11 with 2065 views | Herbivore |
| Nice to see they've got their priorities straight part 7867865746352324341 on 16:31 - Dec 11 by Blueschev |
I've been to 3 graduation ceremonies and the national anthem was played at none of them. Is it a common thing to happen? |
Nope. | |
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| Nice to see they've got their priorities straight part 7867865746352324341 on 16:35 - Dec 11 with 2048 views | factual_blue |
| Nice to see they've got their priorities straight part 7867865746352324341 on 16:31 - Dec 11 by Blueschev |
I've been to 3 graduation ceremonies and the national anthem was played at none of them. Is it a common thing to happen? |
Didn't happen at either of mine, nor at my wife's. |  |
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| Nice to see they've got their priorities straight part 7867865746352324341 on 16:35 - Dec 11 with 2043 views | BlueBadger |
| Nice to see they've got their priorities straight part 7867865746352324341 on 16:31 - Dec 11 by Blueschev |
I've been to 3 graduation ceremonies and the national anthem was played at none of them. Is it a common thing to happen? |
No. He's literally made something up to be upset about for a feeble pretext of attacking free speech in universities. | |
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| Nice to see they've got their priorities straight part 7867865746352324341 on 16:37 - Dec 11 with 2025 views | Blueschev |
| Nice to see they've got their priorities straight part 7867865746352324341 on 16:33 - Dec 11 by Herbivore |
Nope. |
They really are becoming a parody of themselves now. Is there anything they won't make up? | | | |
| Nice to see they've got their priorities straight part 7867865746352324341 on 16:40 - Dec 11 with 2001 views | BlueBadger |
| Nice to see they've got their priorities straight part 7867865746352324341 on 16:37 - Dec 11 by Blueschev |
They really are becoming a parody of themselves now. Is there anything they won't make up? |
Policies which offer genuine, humanitarian solutions to real problems? | |
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| Nice to see they've got their priorities straight part 7867865746352324341 on 16:42 - Dec 11 with 1978 views | Blueschev |
| Nice to see they've got their priorities straight part 7867865746352324341 on 16:40 - Dec 11 by BlueBadger |
Policies which offer genuine, humanitarian solutions to real problems? |
Words like 'solutions' and 'humanitarian' sounds a bit too woke for my liking. You're not a cultural Marxist are you? | | | |
| Nice to see they've got their priorities straight part 7867865746352324341 on 18:37 - Dec 11 with 1812 views | BlueBadger |
| Nice to see they've got their priorities straight part 7867865746352324341 on 16:35 - Dec 11 by factual_blue |
Didn't happen at either of mine, nor at my wife's. |
To be fair, it probably hadn't been written at the time of your graduation. | |
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| Nice to see they've got their priorities straight part 7867865746352324341 on 18:52 - Dec 11 with 1778 views | Herbivore |
| Nice to see they've got their priorities straight part 7867865746352324341 on 16:23 - Dec 11 by lowhouseblue |
well pick another historical example then - i'm still sure it involved something more than politicians being a bit sarcastic. |
Fascism has varied a lot from national context to national context but if you look at the defining characteristics of fascism, you can find evidence in the current government's behaviour for many of them. Lawrence Britt identified 14 traits of fascism and we hit probably 10 or 11 of them. Umberto Eco also identified 14 traits of fascism and we hit 11 or 12 of those. I know you're not worried about any of this and see it as the usual rough and tumble of UK party politics but those of us with our eyes and ears open see the lurch ever rightwards of the current government as being really quite troubling. | |
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| Nice to see they've got their priorities straight part 7867865746352324341 on 18:56 - Dec 11 with 1763 views | lowhouseblue |
| Nice to see they've got their priorities straight part 7867865746352324341 on 18:52 - Dec 11 by Herbivore |
Fascism has varied a lot from national context to national context but if you look at the defining characteristics of fascism, you can find evidence in the current government's behaviour for many of them. Lawrence Britt identified 14 traits of fascism and we hit probably 10 or 11 of them. Umberto Eco also identified 14 traits of fascism and we hit 11 or 12 of those. I know you're not worried about any of this and see it as the usual rough and tumble of UK party politics but those of us with our eyes and ears open see the lurch ever rightwards of the current government as being really quite troubling. |
oh don't be silly. | |
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| Nice to see they've got their priorities straight part 7867865746352324341 on 19:05 - Dec 11 with 1734 views | Herbivore |
| Nice to see they've got their priorities straight part 7867865746352324341 on 18:56 - Dec 11 by lowhouseblue |
oh don't be silly. |
Great debate, as ever. | |
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| Nice to see they've got their priorities straight part 7867865746352324341 on 19:09 - Dec 11 with 1715 views | BlueBadger |
| Nice to see they've got their priorities straight part 7867865746352324341 on 18:56 - Dec 11 by lowhouseblue |
oh don't be silly. |
LOL
Where can one buy a copy of The Woke Agenda? by lowhouseblue 9 Dec 2023 10:19you can disagree with bobbins. you can explain why bobbins is wrong. you can show that the consequences of bobbins are bad. that's civilised debate and i agree that it's right to challenge bobbins in public spaces. you can say that you find bobbins unpleasant. but given that bobbins is an entirely subjective concept, as is far right and not that far right, talking bobbins doesn't make someone a bad person. bobbins / not bobbins is rightly in the eye of the beholder. so calling someone a bobbinist is just name calling.
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| Nice to see they've got their priorities straight part 7867865746352324341 on 19:11 - Dec 11 with 1709 views | factual_blue |
| Nice to see they've got their priorities straight part 7867865746352324341 on 18:37 - Dec 11 by BlueBadger |
To be fair, it probably hadn't been written at the time of your graduation. |
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| Nice to see they've got their priorities straight part 7867865746352324341 on 19:12 - Dec 11 with 1702 views | lowhouseblue |
| Nice to see they've got their priorities straight part 7867865746352324341 on 19:05 - Dec 11 by Herbivore |
Great debate, as ever. |
well it's a debate we've had before and it makes me worry you've lost touch with reality. the uk is not 12/14th of the way to fascism and, as you know, i find it pretty insulting to those who lived and died under real fascism for anyone to make that claim. really, check your privileges as a middle class person living in a functioning democracy under the rule of law. | |
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| Nice to see they've got their priorities straight part 7867865746352324341 on 19:16 - Dec 11 with 1678 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Nice to see they've got their priorities straight part 7867865746352324341 on 18:52 - Dec 11 by Herbivore |
Fascism has varied a lot from national context to national context but if you look at the defining characteristics of fascism, you can find evidence in the current government's behaviour for many of them. Lawrence Britt identified 14 traits of fascism and we hit probably 10 or 11 of them. Umberto Eco also identified 14 traits of fascism and we hit 11 or 12 of those. I know you're not worried about any of this and see it as the usual rough and tumble of UK party politics but those of us with our eyes and ears open see the lurch ever rightwards of the current government as being really quite troubling. |
Not sleepwalking at all. If they get another term we are in trouble. |  |
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| Nice to see they've got their priorities straight part 7867865746352324341 on 19:19 - Dec 11 with 1659 views | lowhouseblue |
| Nice to see they've got their priorities straight part 7867865746352324341 on 19:09 - Dec 11 by BlueBadger |
LOL
Where can one buy a copy of The Woke Agenda? by lowhouseblue 9 Dec 2023 10:19you can disagree with bobbins. you can explain why bobbins is wrong. you can show that the consequences of bobbins are bad. that's civilised debate and i agree that it's right to challenge bobbins in public spaces. you can say that you find bobbins unpleasant. but given that bobbins is an entirely subjective concept, as is far right and not that far right, talking bobbins doesn't make someone a bad person. bobbins / not bobbins is rightly in the eye of the beholder. so calling someone a bobbinist is just name calling.
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i'm disagreeing with bobbins and challenging bobbins. but we've had the debate before and i just can't be bothered. i'm really pretty confident we're not living in anything near a fascist regime - but if you get a thrill by believing it then fill your boots. [Post edited 11 Dec 2023 19:20]
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| Nice to see they've got their priorities straight part 7867865746352324341 on 19:21 - Dec 11 with 1638 views | BlueBadger |
| Nice to see they've got their priorities straight part 7867865746352324341 on 19:12 - Dec 11 by lowhouseblue |
well it's a debate we've had before and it makes me worry you've lost touch with reality. the uk is not 12/14th of the way to fascism and, as you know, i find it pretty insulting to those who lived and died under real fascism for anyone to make that claim. really, check your privileges as a middle class person living in a functioning democracy under the rule of law. |
I'm guessing it's raining in Stockholm then? | |
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