| Fao Glassers and other politicos 17:53 - Jun 3 with 1730 views | bluelagos |
One thing I've never understood, is how come traditionally Clacton is so blue. The seat has high levels of poverty, deprived areas like St Osyth, Jaywick and Walton would (to me) normally vote Labour but the seat has always been strongly Tory.
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| Fao Glassers and other politicos on 17:58 - Jun 3 with 1698 views | homer_123 |
Farming and Commuters. |  |
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| Fao Glassers and other politicos on 17:58 - Jun 3 with 1674 views | Tonytown |
| Fao Glassers and other politicos on 17:58 - Jun 3 by homer_123 |
Farming and Commuters. |
Racists too |  | | |
| Fao Glassers and other politicos on 18:00 - Jun 3 with 1673 views | homer_123 |
| Fao Glassers and other politicos on 17:58 - Jun 3 by Tonytown |
Racists too |
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| Fao Glassers and other politicos on 18:23 - Jun 3 with 1629 views | GlasgowBlue |
A slight correction. St Osyth isn't a deprived area. It's a lovely little village which along with Point Clear has quite a bit of wealth in it. It's home to St Osyth Priory which is the ancestral home of Jacob Rees Mogg's mrs, Helena Anne Beatrix Wentworth Fitzwilliam de Chair. I served on the council with her brother Carlo. My family have owned the Red Lion in St Osyth for over 40 years, so I know it well.
I haven't lived in the area for 30+ years but out of Clacton town centre you have Holland-On-Sea, Bockings Elm, Little Clacton, Great Clacton which are all good areas. Then you have Frinton, Kirby le Soken, Thorpe le Soken, Great Bentley, Weeley etc which are all very middle to higher middle class areas.
Clacton used to be part of the Harwich constituency up until 2010 so I'm not sure where the new boundaries are for Clacton. When I was on Tendring District Council the Tories had a majority up until 1992 when it went to no overall control. Then the Harwich constituency went to Labour during the Blair years.
There is a big London overspill in Clacton these days with a lot of the "moved out because of the blacks and asians" type which is why it's gone very UKip. Jaywick would be prime Ukip territory with it's poverty. Jaywick had a Labour councillor for decades but Labour took them for granted and they were easy to convert to Ukip. [Post edited 3 Jun 2024 18:28]
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| Fao Glassers and other politicos on 18:28 - Jun 3 with 1583 views | bluelagos |
| Fao Glassers and other politicos on 18:23 - Jun 3 by GlasgowBlue |
A slight correction. St Osyth isn't a deprived area. It's a lovely little village which along with Point Clear has quite a bit of wealth in it. It's home to St Osyth Priory which is the ancestral home of Jacob Rees Mogg's mrs, Helena Anne Beatrix Wentworth Fitzwilliam de Chair. I served on the council with her brother Carlo. My family have owned the Red Lion in St Osyth for over 40 years, so I know it well.
I haven't lived in the area for 30+ years but out of Clacton town centre you have Holland-On-Sea, Bockings Elm, Little Clacton, Great Clacton which are all good areas. Then you have Frinton, Kirby le Soken, Thorpe le Soken, Great Bentley, Weeley etc which are all very middle to higher middle class areas.
Clacton used to be part of the Harwich constituency up until 2010 so I'm not sure where the new boundaries are for Clacton. When I was on Tendring District Council the Tories had a majority up until 1992 when it went to no overall control. Then the Harwich constituency went to Labour during the Blair years.
There is a big London overspill in Clacton these days with a lot of the "moved out because of the blacks and asians" type which is why it's gone very UKip. Jaywick would be prime Ukip territory with it's poverty. Jaywick had a Labour councillor for decades but Labour took them for granted and they were easy to convert to Ukip. [Post edited 3 Jun 2024 18:28]
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Ref the boundary changes - some detail at the bottom here of the areas that have moved into Clacton constituency.
https://www.electoralcalculus.co.uk/fcgi-bin/calcwork23.py?postcode=co13+0aa | |
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| Fao Glassers and other politicos on 18:29 - Jun 3 with 1591 views | factual_blue |
Some of those places are financially deprived, others just morally and intellectually so. |  |
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| Fao Glassers and other politicos on 18:41 - Jun 3 with 1547 views | lowhouseblue |
average age? |  |
| And so as the loose-bowelled pigeon of time swoops low over the unsuspecting tourist of destiny, and the flatulent skunk of fate wanders into the air-conditioning system of eternity, I notice it's the end of the show |
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| Fao Glassers and other politicos on 18:52 - Jun 3 with 1495 views | factual_blue |
| Fao Glassers and other politicos on 18:29 - Jun 3 by factual_blue |
Some of those places are financially deprived, others just morally and intellectually so. |
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| Fao Glassers and other politicos on 18:53 - Jun 3 with 1486 views | WD19 |
| Fao Glassers and other politicos on 18:41 - Jun 3 by lowhouseblue |
average age? |
The average age of grandparents in the constituency is 34.
Probably.
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| Fao Glassers and other politicos on 20:00 - Jun 3 with 1419 views | Guthrum |
Poverty often breeds xenophobia as much as a desire for reform. It is perhaps easier to hate someone for your misfortune than to work against establishment inertia to force change.
The nazis started out as a working-class street movement in an economic crisis. National Front skinheads were drawn from a similar source during the downturn of the 1970s. |  |
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| Fao Glassers and other politicos on 21:27 - Jun 3 with 1317 views | DJR |
Three surveys in the 2010s had Jaywick as the most deprived area in England.
That survey is no longer carried out but the following reports the results of the 2021 census.
https://www.clactonandfrintongazette.co.uk/news/23099743.census-2021-deprived-ar
The following from the article suggests Tendring is on the up!
Office for National Statistics data show 61.7 per cent of households in Tendring were deprived in at least one of these "dimensions" when the most recent census was carried out.
This was the highest proportion of all local authorities in England and Wales, and far above the national average of 51.7 per cent.
However, it represented a drop from 67.6 per cent at the time of the last census in 2011.
EDIT. As regards the most deprived areas. This is what the article says.
In Tendring, the three areas with the highest deprivation rates were:
1) Jaywick and St Osyth – 74.9 per cent of households here were deprived in at least one dimension at the time of the 2021 census, down from 82 per cent in 2011
2) Clacton Central – 72.8 per cent, falling from 77.8 per cent in 2011
3) Clacton Rush Green – 69.8 per cent, a drop from 76.5 per cent in 2011 By contrast, the neighbourhood with the lowest level of deprivation was Elmstead Market and Ardleigh, at 46.9 per cent of households.
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| Fao Glassers and other politicos on 23:26 - Jun 3 with 1219 views | Pinewoodblue |
Checked a few constituencies out, interesting how a lower turnout is predicted, guess their polls suggest Tory voters will abstain.
Wonder if a Sunak, or Farage can turn that around. |  |
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