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If delap keeps scoring goals till end of season and we go down, will he be sold? 13:38 - Oct 14 with 2450 viewsDenny32

I think if we are offered 50 million or more. Should be sold and 3 players at 20mill plus be brought in
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If delap keeps scoring goals till end of season and we go down, will he be sold? on 13:42 - Oct 14 with 2431 viewsJakeITFC

Think if he continues to score goals (and ends up with 20 or so) I think he'd be off for a big fee regardless of our division. It's a market short of good strikers, so someone would definitely pay a good fee for him.
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If delap keeps scoring goals till end of season and we go down, will he be sold? on 13:43 - Oct 14 with 2426 viewsElderGrizzly

If he scores at the level he is now, there is every chance he would be sold when/if we stay up.

That's our model for financing the club going forwards.
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If delap keeps scoring goals till end of season and we go down, will he be sold? on 13:44 - Oct 14 with 2403 views_clive_baker_

Don't think we'll be signing £20m players if we go down tbh. We've spent a lot and no doubt the wage bill is pretty high, I would imagine a couple would likely move on if we did go down, and there's a few that'll certainly want to keep playing in the top flight. Delap, Omari, Greaves, Davis probably the most likely suspects.

You could take those 4 out and we would still have the core of a squad that should be competitive at that level though. Woolf, O'Shea, Tuanzebe, Taylor, Burns, Chaplin, Szmodics, Broadhead, Ogbene, Hirst. Presume we would look to add a CM or 2.

Not happening though, we're staying up innit. First win Saturday against the Toffee's.
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If delap keeps scoring goals till end of season and we go down, will he be sold? on 13:59 - Oct 14 with 2322 viewsMattinLondon

If he continues to score and we stay up, he will probably be sold for £70 million plus - assuming there isn’t a big slump in fees or WW3 starts.

If he continues to score but we go down then it’ll be around the £60 million plus add-ons.

Based all this on the £55 million Dominic Solanke went for. Yes, he had a good season in the PL (and the season prior in the championship) but if Delano carries on scoring, he will be seen as a far better player.
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City will buy him back.... on 14:01 - Oct 14 with 2278 viewsBloots

....at whatever fee they have built into the original deal, probably £25m to £30m and then sell him on for £50+.

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City will buy him back.... on 14:15 - Oct 14 with 2167 viewsMarshalls_Mullet

City will buy him back.... on 14:01 - Oct 14 by Bloots

....at whatever fee they have built into the original deal, probably £25m to £30m and then sell him on for £50+.

Modern football's great isn't it??!


Rule of thumb for buy back clauses seems to be 2-3 times the purchase price.

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If delap keeps scoring goals till end of season and we go down, will he be sold? on 14:17 - Oct 14 with 2151 viewsMarshalls_Mullet

If delap keeps scoring goals till end of season and we go down, will he be sold? on 13:43 - Oct 14 by ElderGrizzly

If he scores at the level he is now, there is every chance he would be sold when/if we stay up.

That's our model for financing the club going forwards.


Thats every clubs model outside the big 6.....
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If delap keeps scoring goals till end of season and we go down, will he be sold? on 14:19 - Oct 14 with 2117 viewstextbackup

If delap keeps scoring goals till end of season and we go down, will he be sold? on 13:59 - Oct 14 by MattinLondon

If he continues to score and we stay up, he will probably be sold for £70 million plus - assuming there isn’t a big slump in fees or WW3 starts.

If he continues to score but we go down then it’ll be around the £60 million plus add-ons.

Based all this on the £55 million Dominic Solanke went for. Yes, he had a good season in the PL (and the season prior in the championship) but if Delano carries on scoring, he will be seen as a far better player.
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Both scenarios possible, with our luck

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Yeah, £30m is twice the purchase price.... on 14:22 - Oct 14 with 2090 viewsBloots

City will buy him back.... on 14:15 - Oct 14 by Marshalls_Mullet

Rule of thumb for buy back clauses seems to be 2-3 times the purchase price.


....although I think it's less than that.

Villa ended up paying just £13m for Philogene.

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Yeah, £30m is twice the purchase price.... on 14:53 - Oct 14 with 1954 viewsMarshalls_Mullet

Yeah, £30m is twice the purchase price.... on 14:22 - Oct 14 by Bloots

....although I think it's less than that.

Villa ended up paying just £13m for Philogene.


That's more than 2.5 x the original purchase price, even after their sell on % is discounted.

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Yeah, £30m is twice the purchase price.... on 15:25 - Oct 14 with 1851 viewsitfc48

Yeah, £30m is twice the purchase price.... on 14:53 - Oct 14 by Marshalls_Mullet

That's more than 2.5 x the original purchase price, even after their sell on % is discounted.


Villa's was slightly different though wasn't it as they had 'matching rights' which means the sell-on gets factored in whereas I don't think the sell-on would be factored into a buyback as that's a fixed fee.
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Yeah, £30m is twice the purchase price.... on 16:14 - Oct 14 with 1668 viewsParisBlue

Yeah, £30m is twice the purchase price.... on 15:25 - Oct 14 by itfc48

Villa's was slightly different though wasn't it as they had 'matching rights' which means the sell-on gets factored in whereas I don't think the sell-on would be factored into a buyback as that's a fixed fee.


Correct, we triggered the matching rights clause by having an offer accepted by Hull. Villa had 3 days to "match" it which they did.

Very different thing to a buy-back clause where the fee is specified.

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Yeah, £30m is twice the purchase price.... on 17:43 - Oct 14 with 1449 viewsMattinLondon

Yeah, £30m is twice the purchase price.... on 16:14 - Oct 14 by ParisBlue

Correct, we triggered the matching rights clause by having an offer accepted by Hull. Villa had 3 days to "match" it which they did.

Very different thing to a buy-back clause where the fee is specified.


By all accounts contracts which contain buy-back clauses can also contain cancellation clauses as well. For example, if the selling club insists on having a buy-back fee for £10 million - that fee can be cancelled if a third club offers [£15 million for example] a significant higher fee.

This protects both the selling and buying club.

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If delap keeps scoring goals till end of season and we go down, will he be sold? on 18:05 - Oct 14 with 1404 viewsbackwaywhen

Jeez it’s mid October….give ya head a wobble ffs .
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If delap keeps scoring goals till end of season and we go down, will he be sold? on 18:07 - Oct 14 with 1396 viewsMattinLondon

If delap keeps scoring goals till end of season and we go down, will he be sold? on 18:05 - Oct 14 by backwaywhen

Jeez it’s mid October….give ya head a wobble ffs .


The OP was simply asking a hypothetical question. Didn’t see the harm in it myself.
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If delap keeps scoring goals till end of season and we go down, will he be sold? on 18:10 - Oct 14 with 1393 viewsSuperKieranMcKenna

If we do go down, and I don’t think we will - we aren’t going to have a net spend after selling Delap. Hypothetically if he’s sold for £50m a lot of that is going to cover wages etc for the loss of income. My understanding is you do not receive the parachute payment for the first year?
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If delap keeps scoring goals till end of season and we go down, will he be sold? on 20:15 - Oct 14 with 1242 viewsParisBlue

If delap keeps scoring goals till end of season and we go down, will he be sold? on 18:10 - Oct 14 by SuperKieranMcKenna

If we do go down, and I don’t think we will - we aren’t going to have a net spend after selling Delap. Hypothetically if he’s sold for £50m a lot of that is going to cover wages etc for the loss of income. My understanding is you do not receive the parachute payment for the first year?


Incorrect.

If we go down this year we get 2 years parachute payments.

If next year or after then it's 3 years of parachute payments.

If 3 of Burnley, Sheff Utd, Luton and Leeds were to get promoted, the only parachute money sloshing around would be whichever team misses out from those 4 and the 3 relegated teams.

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