| Reading KM's gracious comments on receiving manager of the month 06:53 - Oct 10 with 3333 views | jasondozzell |
Award and thinking that hopefully the Johnny come lately boo boys will now shut up. Anyone doubting him should be embarrassed.
He never panicked. Knew what we needed to do.
The success of Jaden etc should also give those desperate to slag off Macateer at the first opportunity food for thought. See also Hirst, a brilliant servant for us who KM has stuck with for a reason.
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| Reading KM's gracious comments on receiving manager of the month on 07:12 - Oct 10 with 2494 views | ShortyBlue92 |
“Boo boys” ?
And because Philogene (I don’t like the use of first names when referring to players, it’s far too familiar) came good, are you suggesting that McAteer and Hirst will follow suit ?
Hirst will be the next player the club upgrade on imo |  | | |
| Reading KM's gracious comments on receiving manager of the month on 07:37 - Oct 10 with 2390 views | jasondozzell |
| Reading KM's gracious comments on receiving manager of the month on 07:12 - Oct 10 by ShortyBlue92 |
“Boo boys” ?
And because Philogene (I don’t like the use of first names when referring to players, it’s far too familiar) came good, are you suggesting that McAteer and Hirst will follow suit ?
Hirst will be the next player the club upgrade on imo |
Yep boo boys. We had a load agitating and there were boos at Preston away which was wrong.
I'm suggesting that Jaden is a good example v that players need time sometimes to settle in to playing their best football for a variety of reasons.
No one can say for certain how each player will do. But supporting them and not writing them off after a few games makes sense. Plus it's support. Macateer had actually done some good things so far but that doesn't fit the narrative of the same fickle fans who (if they were here) threw their toys out of the pram in Jan / Feb in 2023 and 2024.
As for Hirst, I don't see that he needs to come good. He already has for season's now. People on his back doesn't help. He's been brilliant for us and gets through so much work. He is KM's number 9 for a reason. [Post edited 10 Oct 7:39]
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| Reading KM's gracious comments on receiving manager of the month on 07:43 - Oct 10 with 2338 views | Metal_Hacker |
| Reading KM's gracious comments on receiving manager of the month on 07:37 - Oct 10 by jasondozzell |
Yep boo boys. We had a load agitating and there were boos at Preston away which was wrong.
I'm suggesting that Jaden is a good example v that players need time sometimes to settle in to playing their best football for a variety of reasons.
No one can say for certain how each player will do. But supporting them and not writing them off after a few games makes sense. Plus it's support. Macateer had actually done some good things so far but that doesn't fit the narrative of the same fickle fans who (if they were here) threw their toys out of the pram in Jan / Feb in 2023 and 2024.
As for Hirst, I don't see that he needs to come good. He already has for season's now. People on his back doesn't help. He's been brilliant for us and gets through so much work. He is KM's number 9 for a reason. [Post edited 10 Oct 7:39]
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| Reading KM's gracious comments on receiving manager of the month on 07:48 - Oct 10 with 2295 views | jasondozzell |
| Reading KM's gracious comments on receiving manager of the month on 07:43 - Oct 10 by Metal_Hacker |
I don't recall any boos at Preston |
There were. Not many but there were. Quite a bit of abuse aimed at players too from some quarters. [Post edited 10 Oct 7:49]
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| Reading KM's gracious comments on receiving manager of the month on 07:48 - Oct 10 with 2296 views | tonybied |
| Reading KM's gracious comments on receiving manager of the month on 07:37 - Oct 10 by jasondozzell |
Yep boo boys. We had a load agitating and there were boos at Preston away which was wrong.
I'm suggesting that Jaden is a good example v that players need time sometimes to settle in to playing their best football for a variety of reasons.
No one can say for certain how each player will do. But supporting them and not writing them off after a few games makes sense. Plus it's support. Macateer had actually done some good things so far but that doesn't fit the narrative of the same fickle fans who (if they were here) threw their toys out of the pram in Jan / Feb in 2023 and 2024.
As for Hirst, I don't see that he needs to come good. He already has for season's now. People on his back doesn't help. He's been brilliant for us and gets through so much work. He is KM's number 9 for a reason. [Post edited 10 Oct 7:39]
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Indeed the Hirst comment is just plain weird. The poster clearly can't understand the difference between form and class.
Last season people were suggesting we would be a better team with Hirst in the line-up rather than Delap. He has had an average start to the season...and when I say average, I mean his finishing hasn't been of the expected level, he's been getting in all the right positions, and has a better than 1-in-3 record , so far! That's if you just count his goals. Most understand that Hirst brings much more than just that to the team. If he starts hitting goal scoring form, then the league is in trouble. |  | | |
| Reading KM's gracious comments on receiving manager of the month on 07:49 - Oct 10 with 2293 views | ShortyBlue92 |
| Reading KM's gracious comments on receiving manager of the month on 07:37 - Oct 10 by jasondozzell |
Yep boo boys. We had a load agitating and there were boos at Preston away which was wrong.
I'm suggesting that Jaden is a good example v that players need time sometimes to settle in to playing their best football for a variety of reasons.
No one can say for certain how each player will do. But supporting them and not writing them off after a few games makes sense. Plus it's support. Macateer had actually done some good things so far but that doesn't fit the narrative of the same fickle fans who (if they were here) threw their toys out of the pram in Jan / Feb in 2023 and 2024.
As for Hirst, I don't see that he needs to come good. He already has for season's now. People on his back doesn't help. He's been brilliant for us and gets through so much work. He is KM's number 9 for a reason. [Post edited 10 Oct 7:39]
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You don’t see that a number 9 needs to come good ?
The “working hard” part of his game is the bare minimum
He definitely needs to improve his finishing
I personally think Hirst will get left behind as the squad improves, he really isn’t that great | | | |
| Reading KM's gracious comments on receiving manager of the month on 07:50 - Oct 10 with 2278 views | jasondozzell |
| Reading KM's gracious comments on receiving manager of the month on 07:48 - Oct 10 by tonybied |
Indeed the Hirst comment is just plain weird. The poster clearly can't understand the difference between form and class.
Last season people were suggesting we would be a better team with Hirst in the line-up rather than Delap. He has had an average start to the season...and when I say average, I mean his finishing hasn't been of the expected level, he's been getting in all the right positions, and has a better than 1-in-3 record , so far! That's if you just count his goals. Most understand that Hirst brings much more than just that to the team. If he starts hitting goal scoring form, then the league is in trouble. |
Well said. Completely agree - exactly that. He's a huge part of how we play. | | | |
| Reading KM's gracious comments on receiving manager of the month on 07:52 - Oct 10 with 2244 views | Metal_Hacker |
| Reading KM's gracious comments on receiving manager of the month on 07:48 - Oct 10 by jasondozzell |
There were. Not many but there were. Quite a bit of abuse aimed at players too from some quarters. [Post edited 10 Oct 7:49]
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I was sat bang in the middle of the behind the goal ( great seats btw) and can't say I heard any boos . I heard some moans and groans but that's normal for our lot at times but if you heard boos then fair enough ....... some people need to give their heads a wobble if true | |
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| Reading KM's gracious comments on receiving manager of the month on 07:58 - Oct 10 with 2198 views | ShortyBlue92 |
| Reading KM's gracious comments on receiving manager of the month on 07:50 - Oct 10 by jasondozzell |
Well said. Completely agree - exactly that. He's a huge part of how we play. |
Why was he not first choice last season ?
Hirst is probably just about adequate in the championship | | | |
| Reading KM's gracious comments on receiving manager of the month on 08:02 - Oct 10 with 2171 views | TownieRob |
| Reading KM's gracious comments on receiving manager of the month on 07:37 - Oct 10 by jasondozzell |
Yep boo boys. We had a load agitating and there were boos at Preston away which was wrong.
I'm suggesting that Jaden is a good example v that players need time sometimes to settle in to playing their best football for a variety of reasons.
No one can say for certain how each player will do. But supporting them and not writing them off after a few games makes sense. Plus it's support. Macateer had actually done some good things so far but that doesn't fit the narrative of the same fickle fans who (if they were here) threw their toys out of the pram in Jan / Feb in 2023 and 2024.
As for Hirst, I don't see that he needs to come good. He already has for season's now. People on his back doesn't help. He's been brilliant for us and gets through so much work. He is KM's number 9 for a reason. [Post edited 10 Oct 7:39]
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I hate to be negative in a week of positivity but I couldnt skip past this post and not comment asking what has Mcateer done 'good' since hes been here? - genuinely perplexed at this statement. | | | |
| Reading KM's gracious comments on receiving manager of the month on 08:27 - Oct 10 with 2017 views | Bobbychase |
| Reading KM's gracious comments on receiving manager of the month on 07:12 - Oct 10 by ShortyBlue92 |
“Boo boys” ?
And because Philogene (I don’t like the use of first names when referring to players, it’s far too familiar) came good, are you suggesting that McAteer and Hirst will follow suit ?
Hirst will be the next player the club upgrade on imo |
Hirst "come good"? Hirst played a key role in the back-to-back promotions and while he didn't score on Sunday, he ran their defence ragged and helped wear them out for when the attacking subs came on later.
He's had a frustrating start to the season but he has nothing to prove to Ipswich fans. |  |
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| Reading KM's gracious comments on receiving manager of the month on 08:42 - Oct 10 with 1925 views | IH_KGF |
| Reading KM's gracious comments on receiving manager of the month on 08:27 - Oct 10 by Bobbychase |
Hirst "come good"? Hirst played a key role in the back-to-back promotions and while he didn't score on Sunday, he ran their defence ragged and helped wear them out for when the attacking subs came on later.
He's had a frustrating start to the season but he has nothing to prove to Ipswich fans. |
I'm a very positive fan, but his first touch has been nothing short of terrible so far this season, decision making at times has been miles off too.
There is a player in there as we've seen, but i do believe he'll be the next to be upgraded |  | | |
| Reading KM's gracious comments on receiving manager of the month on 08:50 - Oct 10 with 1881 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Reading KM's gracious comments on receiving manager of the month on 08:02 - Oct 10 by TownieRob |
I hate to be negative in a week of positivity but I couldnt skip past this post and not comment asking what has Mcateer done 'good' since hes been here? - genuinely perplexed at this statement. |
Worked his socks off, given us lots of energy, made the right side pretty solid allowing the left side to get forward more. He’s been unspectacularly sound but it’s not all about him on that side, as has been discussed to death on here. Walle Egeli is the one who’s going to get bums off seats, McAteer looks more like someone KM can rely on to play the team game. |  |
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| Reading KM's gracious comments on receiving manager of the month on 08:56 - Oct 10 with 1842 views | WolfieAtTheBack |
Anyone booing needs to give themselves a serious head wobble.
We are a really good football club and one I am proud to support. | | | |
| Reading KM's gracious comments on receiving manager of the month on 09:17 - Oct 10 with 1756 views | Pique |
| Reading KM's gracious comments on receiving manager of the month on 07:49 - Oct 10 by ShortyBlue92 |
You don’t see that a number 9 needs to come good ?
The “working hard” part of his game is the bare minimum
He definitely needs to improve his finishing
I personally think Hirst will get left behind as the squad improves, he really isn’t that great |
He's got 3 goals in 7 starts - hardly a bad return for someone whose main game revolves around being unselfish and occupying the opposition defence. |  | | |
| Reading KM's gracious comments on receiving manager of the month on 09:22 - Oct 10 with 1724 views | Pique |
| Reading KM's gracious comments on receiving manager of the month on 08:50 - Oct 10 by Swansea_Blue |
Worked his socks off, given us lots of energy, made the right side pretty solid allowing the left side to get forward more. He’s been unspectacularly sound but it’s not all about him on that side, as has been discussed to death on here. Walle Egeli is the one who’s going to get bums off seats, McAteer looks more like someone KM can rely on to play the team game. |
Indeed, McKenna's system seems to rely on having a hard worker on the right (if not McAteer it would be Burns or Johnson) and more flair on the left to link up with Davis (Philogene, Clarke, Broadhead in the past). McAteer is there to do a specific job, not set hearts racing, and he's doing it.
Of course you've got Egeli who's played there too, but he's also been asked to get through a lot of unglamorous work on the right when he's played. | | | |
| Reading KM's gracious comments on receiving manager of the month on 09:35 - Oct 10 with 1650 views | HighgateBlue |
Kieran admits that things didn't go as hoped or expected during pre-season. Our results in the first few games were worrying. Both of those factors meant that he had questions to answer.
He has answered those questions.
So, I do think that questioning and doubting is sometimes justified. But I was never ever a Kieran-out-er as some unfortunately were for a period.
And yes, his response to manager of the month has been gracious and classy, two things which nobody has ever had cause to doubt that he is. It is well deserved. If he doesn't win it for October too, that will be because of Coventry's incredible results within this calendar month. And that's obviously fine. He'll keep going about his work the same as ever, awards or no awards.
I think the best we can do is what he himself does: don't get too carried away when things are going well, don't get too angry or kneejerk when things are going badly. He has shown himself to be capable of tough but fair decisions (dropping Greaves for Kipre for example) where they are needed. But he has kept the faith with others (Philogene, JClarke), and that has paid dividends.
We will all have our views on McAteer's transfer fee, or Hirst's early season form compared with the best number 9s in the league. But if they both disappoint, and we get promoted, I don't think too many people will be worried.
Kieran has answered the first set of questions. I think there will be more questions as the season progresses. Right now there's no reason to assume he won't have the answers.
The Derby came at the right time. I think it's galvanised the fans. Let's go together in as unified a way as we can. I think the terms bedwetters, happy clappers, boo boys and such like should be lightly used. Let's reserve the tribalism for inter-club relations rather than intra-club relations. |  | | |
| Reading KM's gracious comments on receiving manager of the month on 09:37 - Oct 10 with 1637 views | bsw72 |
People love to moan, it used to be to those who sit around them in the stands, now the internet and the radio gives them more of a platform.
Personally, let them moan if it keeps them (un)happy, KM has enough credit in the bank to allow him the time to build a new team, and this time one with the PL in mind which I don't think it was really when he started the 23/24 season. |  | | |
| Reading KM's gracious comments on receiving manager of the month on 09:40 - Oct 10 with 1623 views | bluearmy4838 |
Agreed, although to be fair it didn't take McKenna winning September MOTM to conclude those getting on his back are / were absolute weapons. |  | | |
| Reading KM's gracious comments on receiving manager of the month on 09:44 - Oct 10 with 1593 views | Blueschev |
| Reading KM's gracious comments on receiving manager of the month on 07:12 - Oct 10 by ShortyBlue92 |
“Boo boys” ?
And because Philogene (I don’t like the use of first names when referring to players, it’s far too familiar) came good, are you suggesting that McAteer and Hirst will follow suit ?
Hirst will be the next player the club upgrade on imo |
Hirst is good already. I really struggle to understand the grief he gets. Seems to suffer from Emile Heskey syndrome, where people seemingly fail to see what he brings to the team. |  | | |
| Reading KM's gracious comments on receiving manager of the month on 09:47 - Oct 10 with 1577 views | bluearmy4838 |
| Reading KM's gracious comments on receiving manager of the month on 09:44 - Oct 10 by Blueschev |
Hirst is good already. I really struggle to understand the grief he gets. Seems to suffer from Emile Heskey syndrome, where people seemingly fail to see what he brings to the team. |
Mad isn't it, especially with fans demanding we start an alternative who they had seen about 10 minutes of. Not a criticism of Ivan, he looks lively and I'm sure he'll play a big part, but the amount of stick Hirst gets is way OTT. He's a good Championship forward, works bloody hard for the team, very intelligent movement and runs the channels well. Could do with being a bit more clinical but if he had it all he wouldn't have signed for us in League 1. | | | |
| Reading KM's gracious comments on receiving manager of the month on 09:47 - Oct 10 with 1578 views | IH_KGF |
| Reading KM's gracious comments on receiving manager of the month on 09:44 - Oct 10 by Blueschev |
Hirst is good already. I really struggle to understand the grief he gets. Seems to suffer from Emile Heskey syndrome, where people seemingly fail to see what he brings to the team. |
Respectfully, thats rubbish.
Hirst is absolutely recognised for what he brings to the team, with many, myself included, thinking he was a better team player than Delap in the PL.
That said, he's been poor this season in a few aspects that we really need him to be better at. Controlling the football, making better in the moment decisions. | | | |
| Reading KM's gracious comments on receiving manager of the month on 10:22 - Oct 10 with 1481 views | Guthrum |
| Reading KM's gracious comments on receiving manager of the month on 07:49 - Oct 10 by ShortyBlue92 |
You don’t see that a number 9 needs to come good ?
The “working hard” part of his game is the bare minimum
He definitely needs to improve his finishing
I personally think Hirst will get left behind as the squad improves, he really isn’t that great |
Even back in Robson's day, it was Wark, Gates, Brazil, Whymark and others who were scoring more often than Mariner, who was a great facilitator as much as a striker. |  |
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| Reading KM's gracious comments on receiving manager of the month on 10:36 - Oct 10 with 1387 views | Ryorry |
| Reading KM's gracious comments on receiving manager of the month on 07:12 - Oct 10 by ShortyBlue92 |
“Boo boys” ?
And because Philogene (I don’t like the use of first names when referring to players, it’s far too familiar) came good, are you suggesting that McAteer and Hirst will follow suit ?
Hirst will be the next player the club upgrade on imo |
Point of order - Jaden is literally the name on the back of his shirt … |  |
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| Reading KM's gracious comments on receiving manager of the month on 10:40 - Oct 10 with 1373 views | bluearmy4838 |
| Reading KM's gracious comments on receiving manager of the month on 10:22 - Oct 10 by Guthrum |
Even back in Robson's day, it was Wark, Gates, Brazil, Whymark and others who were scoring more often than Mariner, who was a great facilitator as much as a striker. |
Also if it is goals you're looking for he's scored in 2 of his last 3 starts, and I thought we missed his presence against Bristol City tbh. On another day that could've been 3 in 3, he did a lot right against Norwich.
Stepped up for the pressure penalty against Brum as well, created the OG against Southampton and for me was one of, if not the MOTM (but gets a 5.9 in the ratings on here). Denied a stone wall pen against Derby that he probably would've taken as Clarke wasn't on yet, if that goes in and we go 2-1 up rather than 2-1 down its a different game. Scored against Sheff United and got what proved to be the winner against Pompey.
Was poor at Preston, but was in good company there. On the whole I think he's started the season pretty well, both in terms of goals but as you say his game is about a lot more than that. We would miss him hugely if he gets injured, I think only then people might start to appreciate what he brings us. | | | |
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