| The imminent threat from Russia 16:50 - Sep 3 with 2460 views | GlasgowBlue |
is a NATO fiction to justify their complete capitulation to Trump's demand for more military spending.
So says Diane Abbot.
She also describes the Russian invasion of Ukraine as "The NATO campaign against Russia"
Why on earth has Burnham let this Putin apologist back into the Labour party? [Post edited 3 Sep 16:54]
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| The imminent threat from Russia on 16:59 - Sep 3 with 1955 views | J2BLUE |
There's a shock.
Maybe she will defect to the Greens. |  | | |
| The imminent threat from Russia on 16:59 - Sep 3 with 1957 views | BlueBadger |
FFS. At least you know that Farage is picking up a paycheque for looking after Vlad's interests. Her and her old boss Jezza are quite happy to do it for free. |  |
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| The imminent threat from Russia on 17:27 - Sep 3 with 1832 views | Leaky |
Why would they want to attack us, this government are doing the job for them. |  | | |
| The imminent threat from Russia on 17:37 - Sep 3 with 1791 views | Churchman |
Because he supports her views? If he does, he’s not alone.
There is no NATO campaign against Russia. There never has been. It was never set up for that and still isn’t. It was designed for mutual defence but there’s no point in telling people who disagree, like my sister who is much further left than D Abbott.
I presume Diane Abbot agrees with the Putin view that Ukraine is not a country and has no right to exist as one. I presume she sees Ukraine as aggressors who started the war on Russia, as Putin claims and Trump agrees.
There’s nothing rational to her view unless she believes the last paragraph. |  | | |
| The imminent threat from Russia on 17:49 - Sep 3 with 1742 views | giant_stow |
She must be willfully ignoring every noise coming out of Russia, but tbh, I think she's in zone of harmless old mad women now, so being in the party makes no odds and keeps some happy. |  |
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| The imminent threat from Russia on 17:55 - Sep 3 with 1713 views | NthQldITFC |
Barking. |  |
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| The imminent threat from Russia on 17:58 - Sep 3 with 1702 views | BlueBadger |
| The imminent threat from Russia on 17:27 - Sep 3 by Leaky |
Why would they want to attack us, this government are doing the job for them. |
And how is the weather in Moscow today? | |
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| The imminent threat from Russia on 17:58 - Sep 3 with 1700 views | Swansea_Blue |
lol. Russia can’t even beat Ukraine. NATO would annihilate them as it stands. We need to keep up security measures and have drone defence capability, but we don’t need any additional spend on weapons to be more than capable of defending ourselves. Given the financial challenges I’d certainly not be wasting money that could be better spent elsewhere (which would include improved energy and food security measures that would also reduce the threat from Russia). |  |
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| The imminent threat from Russia on 17:58 - Sep 3 with 1700 views | BlueBadger |
| The imminent threat from Russia on 17:55 - Sep 3 by NthQldITFC |
Barking. |
I thought she was MP for Hackney? [Post edited 3 Sep 17:59]
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| The imminent threat from Russia on 18:13 - Sep 3 with 1637 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
What imminent threat? |  |
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| The imminent threat from Russia on 18:22 - Sep 3 with 1592 views | giant_stow |
| The imminent threat from Russia on 18:13 - Sep 3 by BanksterDebtSlave |
What imminent threat? |
all sorts | |
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| The imminent threat from Russia on 18:23 - Sep 3 with 1592 views | BlueBadger |
| The imminent threat from Russia on 18:13 - Sep 3 by BanksterDebtSlave |
What imminent threat? |
Sabotage, cyber attacks, funding for far right agitators... | |
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| The imminent threat from Russia on 18:24 - Sep 3 with 1596 views | Guthrum |
| The imminent threat from Russia on 18:13 - Sep 3 by BanksterDebtSlave |
What imminent threat? |
Conventional military threat? Relatively unlikely.
Hybrid and cyber-warfare, there is definitely an ongoing situation. Which is what a chunk of the increased military budget is going towards dealing with. Along with updating equipment and approaches in line with the rapidly changing nature of modern warfare (a lot of which has come out of Ukraine).
Plus there is a genuine situation that we can no longer rely on the USA as an umbrella and backup. Europe (not just the EU) is going to have to increase defence expenditure to compensate for that. Which is terrible for badly needed welfare and social programmes. The only advantage being that much of the money will be spent within the continent, rather than buying tech from across the Atlantic. |  |
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| The imminent threat from Russia on 18:30 - Sep 3 with 1566 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| The imminent threat from Russia on 18:24 - Sep 3 by Guthrum |
Conventional military threat? Relatively unlikely.
Hybrid and cyber-warfare, there is definitely an ongoing situation. Which is what a chunk of the increased military budget is going towards dealing with. Along with updating equipment and approaches in line with the rapidly changing nature of modern warfare (a lot of which has come out of Ukraine).
Plus there is a genuine situation that we can no longer rely on the USA as an umbrella and backup. Europe (not just the EU) is going to have to increase defence expenditure to compensate for that. Which is terrible for badly needed welfare and social programmes. The only advantage being that much of the money will be spent within the continent, rather than buying tech from across the Atlantic. |
Sounds like we need to go off line and they won't be able to touch us! | |
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| The imminent threat from Russia on 18:31 - Sep 3 with 1569 views | Guthrum |
| The imminent threat from Russia on 18:30 - Sep 3 by BanksterDebtSlave |
Sounds like we need to go off line and they won't be able to touch us! |
Unfortunately that would mess up our own control of critical infrastructure (such as TWTD), not to mention hamstringing business. [Post edited 3 Sep 18:33]
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| The imminent threat from Russia on 18:39 - Sep 3 with 1525 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| The imminent threat from Russia on 18:31 - Sep 3 by Guthrum |
Unfortunately that would mess up our own control of critical infrastructure (such as TWTD), not to mention hamstringing business. [Post edited 3 Sep 18:33]
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Foiled!!
Most business is overrated tbf! | |
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| The imminent threat from Russia on 18:50 - Sep 3 with 1470 views | NthQldITFC |
| The imminent threat from Russia on 17:58 - Sep 3 by BlueBadger |
I thought she was MP for Hackney? [Post edited 3 Sep 17:59]
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That old chestnut! | |
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| The imminent threat from Russia on 18:53 - Sep 3 with 1462 views | mellowblue |
| The imminent threat from Russia on 17:58 - Sep 3 by Swansea_Blue |
lol. Russia can’t even beat Ukraine. NATO would annihilate them as it stands. We need to keep up security measures and have drone defence capability, but we don’t need any additional spend on weapons to be more than capable of defending ourselves. Given the financial challenges I’d certainly not be wasting money that could be better spent elsewhere (which would include improved energy and food security measures that would also reduce the threat from Russia). |
ah, but Vlad's big red button is bigger than our red button. Assuming the U.S find a reason to bail out. Scary thought. |  | | |
| The imminent threat from Russia on 18:59 - Sep 3 with 1454 views | Guthrum |
| The imminent threat from Russia on 17:27 - Sep 3 by Leaky |
Why would they want to attack us, this government are doing the job for them. |
Russian distrust and dislike of the UK goes back a long way.
The first significant friction came during the Napoleonic Wars, when British attempts to break the Continental System caused friction (mostly at sea) with Russia whose Tsar Alexander, after the Peace of Tilsit, was inclined to be friendly with Napoleon.
Then came tension over Russia's expansion to the south, with threats to the Ottoman Empire and the Bosporus, culminating in the Crimean War. Tho the issues did not go away after its conclusion.
Britain's spread of influence north-west from India clashed with Russia's expansion south-east from the Caspian Sea later in the 19th century, putting them on different sides in a number of disputes. This is where much of the popular antagonism towards the UK originated.
A brief and mild thaw in relations up to the start of the First World War was soon dissipated by events surrounding the Russian Revolution, which saw British forces deployed to fight the Soviets and support the Whites, plus economic, political and espionage pressure applied.
After the forced and mistrustful alliance of WWII came the Cold War, with Britain as a seemingly enthusiatic ally of the USA, including hosting weapons aimed at the Soviet Union.
Now, despite our relative lack of global clout, the present Russian regime (and media, if you watch Steve Rosenberg's digests from Moscow) directs outsized anger in the UK's direction, as an old bugbear. | |
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| The imminent threat from Russia on 19:34 - Sep 3 with 1329 views | DJR |
| The imminent threat from Russia on 18:53 - Sep 3 by mellowblue |
ah, but Vlad's big red button is bigger than our red button. Assuming the U.S find a reason to bail out. Scary thought. |
But an interesting shift in the case of France who were probably wise to have always had their own, independent nuclear deterrent.
https://www.iss.europa.eu/publ |  | | |
| The imminent threat from Russia on 20:00 - Sep 3 with 1264 views | Swansea_Blue |
| The imminent threat from Russia on 18:31 - Sep 3 by Guthrum |
Unfortunately that would mess up our own control of critical infrastructure (such as TWTD), not to mention hamstringing business. [Post edited 3 Sep 18:33]
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Ham’s stringing business? Has he started selling cat’s cradles? | |
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| The imminent threat from Russia on 20:07 - Sep 3 with 1236 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
She also previously described the conflict as ‘NATO’s campaign in Russia’. Disgraceful, I suppose Hitler was also a victim of Wrstern aggression?
It’s the kind of sh1t-witted take that cost her and Jezza etc 2 elections. | | | |
| The imminent threat from Russia on 20:21 - Sep 3 with 1185 views | Bigalhunter |
| The imminent threat from Russia on 18:23 - Sep 3 by BlueBadger |
Sabotage, cyber attacks, funding for far right agitators... |
And a couple more bots on here… |  |
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