| PC gone mad or is he out of order? on 13:40 - Apr 3 with 1371 views | soupytwist |
He's out of order. Next. |  | |  |
| PC gone mad or is he out of order? on 13:42 - Apr 3 with 1366 views | The_Romford_Blue |
| PC gone mad or is he out of order? on 13:40 - Apr 3 by soupytwist |
He's out of order. Next. |
Without seeing how it wasn't said, it's a hard one imo.
The fact that she didn't make a complaint and they were BOTH laughing through the comment, suggests it was in a jokey way. |  |
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| PC gone mad or is he out of order? on 13:44 - Apr 3 with 1352 views | CaptainObvious |
difficult to judge without seeing the context. certainly threatening behaviour is out of order but the liberal politician shouts sexism by default. if anything he was promoting equality by saying she'd receive the same treatment as a man. |  |
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| PC gone mad or is he out of order? on 13:45 - Apr 3 with 1335 views | Swailsey |
Hard to say. So many jokes see horrendous written down. I told my dad I was going to punch him in the throat if we lost to Birmingham. He knows it's funny because I've never hit anyone in my life.
If that was written down, then of course it would look bad. |  |
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| PC gone mad or is he out of order? on 13:49 - Apr 3 with 1316 views | soupytwist |
| PC gone mad or is he out of order? on 13:42 - Apr 3 by The_Romford_Blue |
Without seeing how it wasn't said, it's a hard one imo.
The fact that she didn't make a complaint and they were BOTH laughing through the comment, suggests it was in a jokey way. |
I've read the BBC and Telegraph reports on it and neither mention that they were both laughing. However, it wouldn't be beyond the realms of possibility that the reporter was laughing along because she thought it the right thing to do in the circumstances. There's a clear hierarchy at work here.
However, Moyes realised that he was wrong and seems to have taken the initiative in apologising so he should make the necessary effort not to do it again and move on. | | | |
| PC gone mad or is he out of order? on 13:51 - Apr 3 with 1289 views | The_Romford_Blue |
| PC gone mad or is he out of order? on 13:49 - Apr 3 by soupytwist |
I've read the BBC and Telegraph reports on it and neither mention that they were both laughing. However, it wouldn't be beyond the realms of possibility that the reporter was laughing along because she thought it the right thing to do in the circumstances. There's a clear hierarchy at work here.
However, Moyes realised that he was wrong and seems to have taken the initiative in apologising so he should make the necessary effort not to do it again and move on. |
From the article I linked in the OP:
'Both Moyes and Sparks were laughing during the exchange and the former Everton and Manchester United manager later apologised to Sparks, who did not make a complaint.' | |
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| PC gone mad or is he out of order? on 13:51 - Apr 3 with 1281 views | Swailsey |
| PC gone mad or is he out of order? on 13:49 - Apr 3 by soupytwist |
I've read the BBC and Telegraph reports on it and neither mention that they were both laughing. However, it wouldn't be beyond the realms of possibility that the reporter was laughing along because she thought it the right thing to do in the circumstances. There's a clear hierarchy at work here.
However, Moyes realised that he was wrong and seems to have taken the initiative in apologising so he should make the necessary effort not to do it again and move on. |
The BBC one above mentions they are laughing.
She could have been. But I doubt it. | |
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| PC gone mad or is he out of order? on 13:52 - Apr 3 with 1264 views | GlasgowBlue |
It doesn't read well whatever way you look at it.
Violence against women should never be a joking matter imo. |  |
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| PC gone mad or is he out of order? on 14:00 - Apr 3 with 1186 views | soupytwist |
| PC gone mad or is he out of order? on 13:51 - Apr 3 by The_Romford_Blue |
From the article I linked in the OP:
'Both Moyes and Sparks were laughing during the exchange and the former Everton and Manchester United manager later apologised to Sparks, who did not make a complaint.' |
OK, missed that. But I think my general point stands about why she may have been laughing. | | | |
| PC gone mad or is he out of order? on 14:02 - Apr 3 with 1170 views | sparks |
| PC gone mad or is he out of order? on 13:52 - Apr 3 by GlasgowBlue |
It doesn't read well whatever way you look at it.
Violence against women should never be a joking matter imo. |
You don't need the words 'against women' there. No good reason to categorise it by gender. |  |
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| PC gone mad or is he out of order? on 14:06 - Apr 3 with 1127 views | Swailsey |
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| PC gone mad or is he out of order? on 14:07 - Apr 3 with 1124 views | giant_stow |
| PC gone mad or is he out of order? on 13:42 - Apr 3 by The_Romford_Blue |
Without seeing how it wasn't said, it's a hard one imo.
The fact that she didn't make a complaint and they were BOTH laughing through the comment, suggests it was in a jokey way. |
There's a video of them laughing here: https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/apr/03/sunderland-david-moyes-tells-re
... but it's besides the point - it was an unspoken power play with Moyles putting her in her place in a nasty sh1tty way. bully. |  |
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| PC gone mad or is he out of order? on 14:10 - Apr 3 with 1109 views | Darth_Koont |
Wasn't really that humorous though - and in the context of managers wielding a lot of power over the media it was OTT.
The threat/bullying was definitely there. The sexist aspect is more debatable, but I think putting women and physical violence in the same context is always going to be a bit dodgy. |  |
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| PC gone mad or is he out of order? on 14:12 - Apr 3 with 1095 views | CaptainObvious |
| PC gone mad or is he out of order? on 13:42 - Apr 3 by The_Romford_Blue |
Without seeing how it wasn't said, it's a hard one imo.
The fact that she didn't make a complaint and they were BOTH laughing through the comment, suggests it was in a jokey way. |
I cannot imagine any scenario in the world ever where David Moyes would be jokey. | |
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| PC gone mad or is he out of order? on 13:51 - Apr 3 by Swailsey |
The BBC one above mentions they are laughing.
She could have been. But I doubt it. |
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| PC gone mad or is he out of order? on 14:22 - Apr 3 with 1033 views | Bluebell |
Definitely out of order. He is accomplished in interviews as he has managed clubs before.
He should know what he should or shouldn't say. He didn't know her personally, so should never have said it.
BUT he has apologised and she has accepted so that should have been the end of it. |  | | |
| PC gone mad or is he out of order? on 15:25 - Apr 3 with 926 views | BlueBadger |
Domestic violence jokes are a bit like rape jokes and dead baby jokes. You've got to incredibly, incredibly clever and 100% clear as to the 'satirical' point you're making when you put them out there, otherwise, at best, you look like a bit of a pillock to the wider public, regardless of who's 'laughing along' at the time.
Additional - with apologies for linking to Buzzfeed, but this is an example of how it CAN be done well.
https://www.buzzfeed.com/rossalynwarren/but-what-was-he-wearing?utm_term=.wpO0PD [Post edited 26 Apr 2017 10:53]
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| PC gone mad or is he out of order? on 15:34 - Apr 3 with 886 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
| PC gone mad or is he out of order? on 13:45 - Apr 3 by Swailsey |
Hard to say. So many jokes see horrendous written down. I told my dad I was going to punch him in the throat if we lost to Birmingham. He knows it's funny because I've never hit anyone in my life.
If that was written down, then of course it would look bad. |
You're a monster |  |
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| PC gone mad or is he out of order? on 15:41 - Apr 3 with 858 views | Swailsey |
It shut him up though. | |
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| PC gone mad or is he out of order? on 16:18 - Apr 3 with 784 views | The_Romford_Blue |
| PC gone mad or is he out of order? on 15:41 - Apr 3 by Swailsey |
It shut him up though. |
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