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Berdant Celina 17:41 - Sep 9 with 2809 viewsitfcpaul

How was he when he came on?

Starter next week?

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Berdant Celina on 19:11 - Sep 9 with 2735 viewspatrickswell

I hope so. In the time he was on, I counted 3 things of interest:

1) an overhit free kick
2) the goal
3) a pinged ball to set up Connolly for a late chance in stoppage time.
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Berdant Celina on 19:13 - Sep 9 with 2729 viewsLeoMuff

MM needs to get him in the 11 for sure, too good a benchwamer

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Berdant Celina on 00:01 - Sep 10 with 2467 viewsMach_foreignBlue

Much better than everyone else in our team.

Wonder what he needs to do to get a starting place. He's too good to be on the bench.
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Berdant Celina on 08:10 - Sep 10 with 2331 viewsBluefish

Berdant Celina on 00:01 - Sep 10 by Mach_foreignBlue

Much better than everyone else in our team.

Wonder what he needs to do to get a starting place. He's too good to be on the bench.


Moat new signings in most teams earn their place after starting on the bench but I have never known a team slate the manager for it. Oxlade Chamberlain start sub yesterday for Liverpool and they lost #kloppout

Celina was signed by Mick. It wasn't a mistake and mock was expecting a hairy arsed 32 year old midfielder. Mick knew what he was signing in the same way he did with frazer and Lawrence. Mick played them both whenever he could and he will with celina.

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Berdant Celina on 13:40 - Sep 10 with 2195 viewsNo9

The discussion on RS yesterday was informative.
The talk was of MM not liking BC for some reason - had he done something wrong on the training park etc. etc.
The impression given was that the broadcasters don't give BC much chance of being a regular starter.
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Berdant Celina on 13:43 - Sep 10 with 2190 viewsDyland

Berdant Celina on 13:40 - Sep 10 by No9

The discussion on RS yesterday was informative.
The talk was of MM not liking BC for some reason - had he done something wrong on the training park etc. etc.
The impression given was that the broadcasters don't give BC much chance of being a regular starter.


Why was the talk on RS informative? Did the people saying there was "something wrong" have inside information or was it random callers making things up?

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Berdant Celina on 13:46 - Sep 10 with 2181 viewsSomethingBlue

Berdant Celina on 13:40 - Sep 10 by No9

The discussion on RS yesterday was informative.
The talk was of MM not liking BC for some reason - had he done something wrong on the training park etc. etc.
The impression given was that the broadcasters don't give BC much chance of being a regular starter.


Seeing a lot of that chat on here but it's based on nothing bar people's woolly preconceptions.

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Berdant Celina on 13:51 - Sep 10 with 2167 viewsolimar

Berdant Celina on 13:43 - Sep 10 by Dyland

Why was the talk on RS informative? Did the people saying there was "something wrong" have inside information or was it random callers making things up?


It came up in the pre-match interview. Celina is clearly a player who isnt in the MM mould, principally because he doesnt appear to be defensive minded at all and gave the ball away in defensive positions v Palace (and once v Fulham) when he attempted to overplay.
MM seemed quite defensive about that suggestion, saying that they seemed to suggest there was something wrong with him, but to say that hes been very happy with his workrate, that hes doing both sides of the game well. He acknowledged that there were a couple of times v Palace which he said he needed to learn from, or something.

If Celina shows himself to be just too much of an attacking talent to ignore, then MM will presumably play him, but MM has been pretty vocal throughout about the need for players to "put a shift in" and to track back defensively, whilst hes an advocate of not taking chances defensively. Whatever MM says publicly, the question seemed pretty valid .
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Berdant Celina on 14:13 - Sep 10 with 2134 viewsDyland

Berdant Celina on 13:51 - Sep 10 by olimar

It came up in the pre-match interview. Celina is clearly a player who isnt in the MM mould, principally because he doesnt appear to be defensive minded at all and gave the ball away in defensive positions v Palace (and once v Fulham) when he attempted to overplay.
MM seemed quite defensive about that suggestion, saying that they seemed to suggest there was something wrong with him, but to say that hes been very happy with his workrate, that hes doing both sides of the game well. He acknowledged that there were a couple of times v Palace which he said he needed to learn from, or something.

If Celina shows himself to be just too much of an attacking talent to ignore, then MM will presumably play him, but MM has been pretty vocal throughout about the need for players to "put a shift in" and to track back defensively, whilst hes an advocate of not taking chances defensively. Whatever MM says publicly, the question seemed pretty valid .


So from the horse's mouth, there isn't something wrong!

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Berdant Celina on 14:17 - Sep 10 with 2124 viewsolimar

Berdant Celina on 13:46 - Sep 10 by SomethingBlue

Seeing a lot of that chat on here but it's based on nothing bar people's woolly preconceptions.


Both Brenner Woolley and Mick Mills were saying last week that he was the most un-McCarthy style player that he had signed.
He gave the ball away on the edge of our box 2 or 3 times v Palace, when he attempted to play out from the back, then did the same v Fulham with pretty much his first touch of the game.
I thought the question was pretty reasonable in the press conference. Even MM acknowledged the issues v Palace.

The suggestion that he has an "issue" with Celina or has "fallen out with him" is something else entirely though.
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Berdant Celina on 14:20 - Sep 10 with 2115 viewsolimar

Berdant Celina on 14:13 - Sep 10 by Dyland

So from the horse's mouth, there isn't something wrong!


Exactly. Having a style of play that may not seem to suit the manager (and MM signed him, so of course will be aware of his strengths/weaknesses) is one thing, but suggesting that somehow he has an attitude problem, or MM has an issue with him, is quite different. And seemingly has no basis.
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Berdant Celina on 14:20 - Sep 10 with 2112 viewsDolly2.0

Berdant Celina on 14:13 - Sep 10 by Dyland

So from the horse's mouth, there isn't something wrong!


I think some of the anti-Mick mob have put two and two together and got 5. He's not featured much and he's a flair player = Mick hates him/he should go back to Man City.

They conveniently forget he's been ill/injured and Mick has praised his attitude.

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Berdant Celina on 15:40 - Sep 10 with 2056 viewsNo9

Berdant Celina on 13:43 - Sep 10 by Dyland

Why was the talk on RS informative? Did the people saying there was "something wrong" have inside information or was it random callers making things up?


It was Mick Mills & Brenner Wooley, no callers involved in the discussion.
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