| Definately a 'club' style being taught 20:35 - Nov 10 with 2229 views | FrimleyBlue |
Interesting how similar this game has been to first team fixtures.
Appreciate short term it's not exciting or giving us to much joy..... But longer term could be very beneficial
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| Definately a 'club' style being taught on 20:36 - Nov 10 with 2210 views | BlueBadger |
The youths are being taught 'pass it around at the back for a bit and then lump it' as well? Christ. [Post edited 10 Nov 2020 20:47]
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| Definately a 'club' style being taught on 20:38 - Nov 10 with 2175 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Definately a 'club' style being taught on 20:36 - Nov 10 by BlueBadger |
The youths are being taught 'pass it around at the back for a bit and then lump it' as well? Christ. [Post edited 10 Nov 2020 20:47]
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From what I can tell it's all about ball retention. The lump long is painfully through lack of players in the middle making space. | |
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| Definately a 'club' style being taught on 20:40 - Nov 10 with 2105 views | IpswichBoyBlue |
All our sides should be coached in the style the manager wants to play. Just wish it wasn't this style of football. |  | | |
| Definately a 'club' style being taught on 20:40 - Nov 10 with 2092 views | BlueBadger |
| Definately a 'club' style being taught on 20:38 - Nov 10 by FrimleyBlue |
From what I can tell it's all about ball retention. The lump long is painfully through lack of players in the middle making space. |
A simple 'yes' would have sufficed. | |
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| Definately a 'club' style being taught on 20:42 - Nov 10 with 2071 views | BlueBadger |
| Definately a 'club' style being taught on 20:40 - Nov 10 by IpswichBoyBlue |
All our sides should be coached in the style the manager wants to play. Just wish it wasn't this style of football. |
Christ alive. Lambert definitely needs to go, sooner rather than later if he's drilling the first team style of 'pass it around at the back for ages then lump it' is now being rolled out across the whole club. He could do even more long-term image than Keane. [Post edited 10 Nov 2020 20:47]
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| Definately a 'club' style being taught on 20:43 - Nov 10 with 2063 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Definately a 'club' style being taught on 20:40 - Nov 10 by IpswichBoyBlue |
All our sides should be coached in the style the manager wants to play. Just wish it wasn't this style of football. |
Tbh it's not a bad style to have through the club. But the transition to the final third really needs to happen alot quicker. When we've done that in previous games.. pompy second half for example.. it works well.. we just aren't quite at that level yet to do it over 90 minutes | |
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| Definately a 'club' style being taught on 20:44 - Nov 10 with 2046 views | BlueBadger |
| Definately a 'club' style being taught on 20:43 - Nov 10 by FrimleyBlue |
Tbh it's not a bad style to have through the club. But the transition to the final third really needs to happen alot quicker. When we've done that in previous games.. pompy second half for example.. it works well.. we just aren't quite at that level yet to do it over 90 minutes |
We've players who are capable of doing that. They're not being coached or instructed to do that. The thirty minutes against Pompey was the aberration from plan, not the other way round. This is a choice by the manager.
Lambert out. [Post edited 10 Nov 2020 20:46]
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| Definately a 'club' style being taught on 20:45 - Nov 10 with 2021 views | PJH |
| Definately a 'club' style being taught on 20:43 - Nov 10 by FrimleyBlue |
Tbh it's not a bad style to have through the club. But the transition to the final third really needs to happen alot quicker. When we've done that in previous games.. pompy second half for example.. it works well.. we just aren't quite at that level yet to do it over 90 minutes |
Lump it forward after 15 consecutive passes between the central defenders rather than 20 then. |  | | |
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| Definately a 'club' style being taught on 20:46 - Nov 10 with 1999 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Definately a 'club' style being taught on 20:44 - Nov 10 by BlueBadger |
We've players who are capable of doing that. They're not being coached or instructed to do that. The thirty minutes against Pompey was the aberration from plan, not the other way round. This is a choice by the manager.
Lambert out. [Post edited 10 Nov 2020 20:46]
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You can coach them all you like but if they're working hard enough it will fall down. Hence our lacklustre first half against pompy. It needed a kick up the ar se at HT to get them to increase their tempo and create their own spaces. | |
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| Definately a 'club' style being taught on 20:49 - Nov 10 with 1948 views | BlueBadger |
| Definately a 'club' style being taught on 20:46 - Nov 10 by FrimleyBlue |
You can coach them all you like but if they're working hard enough it will fall down. Hence our lacklustre first half against pompy. It needed a kick up the ar se at HT to get them to increase their tempo and create their own spaces. |
Again, if the players aren't working hard enough, that's the manager's job to you know, coach and motivate them. Or, if he can't do that, get in ones who can.
We keep reading about what a great motivator and man-manager Lambert is supposed to be and yet the players still, after two years in charge, don't appear to be playing for him.
Almost as if he's crap at his job. [Post edited 10 Nov 2020 21:05]
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| Definately a 'club' style being taught on 20:59 - Nov 10 with 1820 views | monty_radio |
Definitely the style:
70% possession
outmuscled in the second third
no discrete forward line in evidence in the final third
plus the obligatory chronic refereeing gaff
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| Definately a 'club' style being taught on 21:04 - Nov 10 with 1789 views | Darth_Koont |
This isn’t against the kids tonight as they were physically outmatched too.
But if it’s a club style, we seem incapable of using possession to launch attacks and pressure the opposition. In which case we might as well play it early and direct to force mistakes.
We may not think we’re better than this league, but we’re playing a style that thinks it’s better than this league.
Not that we’d have been relegated in the first place but McCarthy would have had us up last season and we’d have scored loads too. Concentrate on effectiveness then worry about the style. |  |
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| Definately a 'club' style being taught on 21:16 - Nov 10 with 1746 views | BlueBadger |
| Definately a 'club' style being taught on 20:43 - Nov 10 by FrimleyBlue |
Tbh it's not a bad style to have through the club. But the transition to the final third really needs to happen alot quicker. When we've done that in previous games.. pompy second half for example.. it works well.. we just aren't quite at that level yet to do it over 90 minutes |
At a similar stage in their Town careers, most vaguely successful* Town managers from Sir Bobby and Sir Alf to Burley to Mick to Royle, even to Magilton basically had their teams playing how they wanted them to play.
Lambert is a fraud. And people are still falling for it.
*Mileage may vary on the term 'successful [Post edited 11 Nov 2020 7:12]
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| Definately a 'club' style being taught on 21:19 - Nov 10 with 1713 views | monty_radio |
| Definately a 'club' style being taught on 21:04 - Nov 10 by Darth_Koont |
This isn’t against the kids tonight as they were physically outmatched too.
But if it’s a club style, we seem incapable of using possession to launch attacks and pressure the opposition. In which case we might as well play it early and direct to force mistakes.
We may not think we’re better than this league, but we’re playing a style that thinks it’s better than this league.
Not that we’d have been relegated in the first place but McCarthy would have had us up last season and we’d have scored loads too. Concentrate on effectiveness then worry about the style. |
"We may not think we’re better than this league, but we’re playing a style that thinks it’s better than this league."
Seems that way. Nice to look at for a while, but ultimately the lack of clout becomes a hopeless yawn. | |
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| Definately a 'club' style being taught on 21:40 - Nov 10 with 1603 views | judespiveyg |
I agree that this is the right style to be aiming for. However it requires the midfielders to run off the ball and create angles effectively (i.e. the most important part of playing midfield). The midfield currently isn't doing this enough, hence why there's disconnect between the defence and strikers, often leading to a long ball after a passage of passing.
We currently have two fit CM who actually fit this style, Dozzell who is great at getting the ball off the defence and passing forwards, and Bishop. The problem is finding the third player of the three. Downes might work as he runs off the ball well without blowing anyone away with his passing, adds some bite as well, injured however. Nolan and particularly Huws evidenced vs Pompey that they're static and slow. Skuse doesn't move off the ball or pass well. Judge is meh and would take the attacking role Bishop is better at. Lambert has his style of play just currently doesn't have full personnel to utilise it fully.
The fact we're second without showing full potential probably says more about the defence and individual performances than the manager, but all the same if we can just get the style fully functioning we could really be in the clear. |  |
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| Definately a 'club' style being taught on 21:44 - Nov 10 with 1572 views | Beckets |
One of the clubs styles appears to be losing. |  | | |
| Definately a 'club' style being taught on 21:47 - Nov 10 with 1552 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Definately a 'club' style being taught on 21:40 - Nov 10 by judespiveyg |
I agree that this is the right style to be aiming for. However it requires the midfielders to run off the ball and create angles effectively (i.e. the most important part of playing midfield). The midfield currently isn't doing this enough, hence why there's disconnect between the defence and strikers, often leading to a long ball after a passage of passing.
We currently have two fit CM who actually fit this style, Dozzell who is great at getting the ball off the defence and passing forwards, and Bishop. The problem is finding the third player of the three. Downes might work as he runs off the ball well without blowing anyone away with his passing, adds some bite as well, injured however. Nolan and particularly Huws evidenced vs Pompey that they're static and slow. Skuse doesn't move off the ball or pass well. Judge is meh and would take the attacking role Bishop is better at. Lambert has his style of play just currently doesn't have full personnel to utilise it fully.
The fact we're second without showing full potential probably says more about the defence and individual performances than the manager, but all the same if we can just get the style fully functioning we could really be in the clear. |
It's a whole team thing, needs players suited, needs a technically astute manager/coaching team, utter confidence in the approach even when mistakes are made, and the buy in of the fans.
In short, we've got little chance. |  |
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| Definately a 'club' style being taught on 21:49 - Nov 10 with 1536 views | jeera |
| Definately a 'club' style being taught on 20:38 - Nov 10 by FrimleyBlue |
From what I can tell it's all about ball retention. The lump long is painfully through lack of players in the middle making space. |
Then you've never watched the kids being coached. |  |
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| Definately a 'club' style being taught on 21:53 - Nov 10 with 1516 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Definately a 'club' style being taught on 21:40 - Nov 10 by judespiveyg |
I agree that this is the right style to be aiming for. However it requires the midfielders to run off the ball and create angles effectively (i.e. the most important part of playing midfield). The midfield currently isn't doing this enough, hence why there's disconnect between the defence and strikers, often leading to a long ball after a passage of passing.
We currently have two fit CM who actually fit this style, Dozzell who is great at getting the ball off the defence and passing forwards, and Bishop. The problem is finding the third player of the three. Downes might work as he runs off the ball well without blowing anyone away with his passing, adds some bite as well, injured however. Nolan and particularly Huws evidenced vs Pompey that they're static and slow. Skuse doesn't move off the ball or pass well. Judge is meh and would take the attacking role Bishop is better at. Lambert has his style of play just currently doesn't have full personnel to utilise it fully.
The fact we're second without showing full potential probably says more about the defence and individual performances than the manager, but all the same if we can just get the style fully functioning we could really be in the clear. |
This is the thing. It's a positive that something is being implemented across the whole club. However as you say the midfield players we have as a whole aren't good enough to take the mantle where it matters and neither are our strikers.
I can see why this style wouldn't work with a two. Hence 1 up or 3. But no matter which way you to we don't have the players to suit those formations.
We've seen when Hawkins plays everything seems to click a bit more in the final third but without him here's genuinely nothing uptop to work with who can work with the midfield.
This is why I think Lambert was given those 5 years. To implement something club wide. After all we had years of Jewell Keane and then Hurst where Lambert said when he came in everything that could be wrong at the club was wrong. | |
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| Definately a 'club' style being taught on 21:59 - Nov 10 with 1495 views | Rocky |
To borrow a cliche, we need to "mix it up" more. It's ok keeping possession and patiently waiting for the right pass to split the defence but passing for its own's sake - usually backwards - has no merit at all apart from looking good in the stats. It just allows the oppo to get behind the ball and wait for us to lump it forward. The way we play at times is the way a side plays when they're 1-0 up with 5 minutes to go - except we do this from the very start of a game.
In the 2nd half v Portsmouth, we actually ran the ball out from defence at pace occasionally, used the long ball with success at times, and most importantly - showed a real urgency to get forward and hurt the opposition. |  | | |
| Definately a 'club' style being taught on 06:53 - Nov 11 with 1325 views | BlueBadger |
| Definately a 'club' style being taught on 21:53 - Nov 10 by FrimleyBlue |
This is the thing. It's a positive that something is being implemented across the whole club. However as you say the midfield players we have as a whole aren't good enough to take the mantle where it matters and neither are our strikers.
I can see why this style wouldn't work with a two. Hence 1 up or 3. But no matter which way you to we don't have the players to suit those formations.
We've seen when Hawkins plays everything seems to click a bit more in the final third but without him here's genuinely nothing uptop to work with who can work with the midfield.
This is why I think Lambert was given those 5 years. To implement something club wide. After all we had years of Jewell Keane and then Hurst where Lambert said when he came in everything that could be wrong at the club was wrong. |
Definately a 'club' style being taught by BlueBadger 10 Nov 2020 21:16At a similar stage in their Town careers, most vaguely successful* Town managers from Sir Bobby and Sir Alf to Burley to Mick to Royle, even to Magilton basically had their teams playing how they wanted them to play.
Lambert is a fraud. And people are still falling for it.
*Mileage may vary on the term 'successful
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| Definately a 'club' style being taught on 08:47 - Nov 11 with 1225 views | MonkeyAlan |
It's a cr@p club style if that's the case. |  | | |
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