| Safe Standing on 17:16 - May 18 with 1711 views | SitfcB |
Yeah it was in the season ticket brochure. |  |
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| Safe Standing on 17:33 - May 18 with 1594 views | HighgateBlue |
People are entitled to disagree with the idea of allowing standing at football matches without being accused of pessimism. Something is not safe merely because it has the word "safe" in its new-fangled name. There is scope for legitimate disagreement on this, as on most issues... |  | | |
| Safe Standing on 17:51 - May 18 with 1502 views | southnorfolkblue |
I would imagine that it will be railed seating so the seats can be dropped into place. My understanding is that terraces are permitted at League 1 and below. I think that the Championship has allowed standing areas if clubs have committed to install seats in the future, although no doubt I will be corrected if that’s wrong. |  |
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| Safe Standing on 17:52 - May 18 with 1500 views | Swansea_Blue |
Yes, it's legal. The law requires that clubs in the top 2 divisions provide a seat for each spectator. There is no law about fans having to sit on them; rather that's an issue at club level. In L1 and L2 the law doesn't apply.
https://thefsa.org.uk/news/the-legalities-of-standing/#:~:text=In%20England%20an
So in L1 the club could rip the seats out altogether if they wanted, but obviously they will want to align to PL/championship regs due to the hope of promotion. 'Safe standing' would allow us to be future proof, as a seat is incorporated even if it's rarely/never used. It's a nonsensical law in that regard; why not just change the law to allow barriers only?
I think it's a good idea and would be fully supportive. |  |
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| Safe Standing on 17:54 - May 18 with 1486 views | Funge |
This is a very good idea.
Most of the NSL stands anyway; this way you don't scrape your shins raw every time we score/ some prick referee disallows goals vs Wycombe. |  | | |
| Safe Standing on 17:55 - May 18 with 1478 views | BryanPlug |
| Safe Standing on 17:33 - May 18 by HighgateBlue |
People are entitled to disagree with the idea of allowing standing at football matches without being accused of pessimism. Something is not safe merely because it has the word "safe" in its new-fangled name. There is scope for legitimate disagreement on this, as on most issues... |
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| Safe Standing on 17:57 - May 18 with 1459 views | HighgateBlue |
| Safe Standing on 17:55 - May 18 by BryanPlug |
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It's a little bit more complicated than that, otherwise it would have been lawful for years. Personally I can see the arguments either way and don't have a strong stance one way or the other, but I do think there's scope for a legitimate difference of opinion. | | | |
| Safe Standing on 17:58 - May 18 with 1452 views | TractorWood |
| Safe Standing on 17:33 - May 18 by HighgateBlue |
People are entitled to disagree with the idea of allowing standing at football matches without being accused of pessimism. Something is not safe merely because it has the word "safe" in its new-fangled name. There is scope for legitimate disagreement on this, as on most issues... |
Equally it's much safer and clearer for people in safe standing sections where people are just going to stand anyway like say the North Stand or the vast majority of away areas. |  |
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| Safe Standing on 18:01 - May 18 with 1405 views | BryanPlug |
| Safe Standing on 17:57 - May 18 by HighgateBlue |
It's a little bit more complicated than that, otherwise it would have been lawful for years. Personally I can see the arguments either way and don't have a strong stance one way or the other, but I do think there's scope for a legitimate difference of opinion. |
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| Safe Standing on 18:06 - May 18 with 1384 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
No downside to this at all.
Get it done. |  |
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| Safe Standing on 18:07 - May 18 with 1381 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| Safe Standing on 17:33 - May 18 by HighgateBlue |
People are entitled to disagree with the idea of allowing standing at football matches without being accused of pessimism. Something is not safe merely because it has the word "safe" in its new-fangled name. There is scope for legitimate disagreement on this, as on most issues... |
The main problem with standing back in the day was the cages that fans were kept in. | |
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| Safe Standing on 18:21 - May 18 with 1314 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Safe Standing on 17:58 - May 18 by TractorWood |
Equally it's much safer and clearer for people in safe standing sections where people are just going to stand anyway like say the North Stand or the vast majority of away areas. |
It has to be safer than now. No risk of going over the seat in front of you for a start (which does happen from time to time). I quite like the idea of something to lean on too!
Now if only they came with beer holders so you could have a civilised pint rather than queuing up for 20 minutes during the 15 minute half time. Too many idiots getting absolutely hammered for that ever to happen though. | |
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| Safe Standing on 18:22 - May 18 with 1291 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Safe Standing on 18:07 - May 18 by Marshalls_Mullet |
The main problem with standing back in the day was the cages that fans were kept in. |
And the occasional bars. You could get the feck squeezed out of you if there was a bit of a surge. And we're not talking Hillsborough levels of crowding - just normal crowds were bad enough at times. | |
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| Safe Standing on 18:24 - May 18 with 1271 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| Safe Standing on 18:22 - May 18 by Swansea_Blue |
And the occasional bars. You could get the feck squeezed out of you if there was a bit of a surge. And we're not talking Hillsborough levels of crowding - just normal crowds were bad enough at times. |
Yes, but the modern system is a lot better. | |
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| Safe Standing on 18:47 - May 18 with 1176 views | Strimmer |
| Safe Standing on 17:52 - May 18 by Swansea_Blue |
Yes, it's legal. The law requires that clubs in the top 2 divisions provide a seat for each spectator. There is no law about fans having to sit on them; rather that's an issue at club level. In L1 and L2 the law doesn't apply.
https://thefsa.org.uk/news/the-legalities-of-standing/#:~:text=In%20England%20an
So in L1 the club could rip the seats out altogether if they wanted, but obviously they will want to align to PL/championship regs due to the hope of promotion. 'Safe standing' would allow us to be future proof, as a seat is incorporated even if it's rarely/never used. It's a nonsensical law in that regard; why not just change the law to allow barriers only?
I think it's a good idea and would be fully supportive. |
Of course, thanks. I'll be honest, I forgot we were in League one briefly there. Spent all year looking at banks of terraces at away grounds on the iFollow and still didn't click lol | |
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| Safe Standing on 20:20 - May 18 with 1008 views | Tractorgirlforever |
| Safe Standing on 17:54 - May 18 by Funge |
This is a very good idea.
Most of the NSL stands anyway; this way you don't scrape your shins raw every time we score/ some prick referee disallows goals vs Wycombe. |
I ended up with broken ribs at burton albion when we scored!.. supporters behind me pushed forward and i was against the railing and was pushed into it, very painful ,but we scored...and won the game!. .it would have been concerning if it was a child stood where i was tho. |  | | |
| Safe Standing on 20:36 - May 18 with 971 views | Danny_G |
| Safe Standing on 17:52 - May 18 by Swansea_Blue |
Yes, it's legal. The law requires that clubs in the top 2 divisions provide a seat for each spectator. There is no law about fans having to sit on them; rather that's an issue at club level. In L1 and L2 the law doesn't apply.
https://thefsa.org.uk/news/the-legalities-of-standing/#:~:text=In%20England%20an
So in L1 the club could rip the seats out altogether if they wanted, but obviously they will want to align to PL/championship regs due to the hope of promotion. 'Safe standing' would allow us to be future proof, as a seat is incorporated even if it's rarely/never used. It's a nonsensical law in that regard; why not just change the law to allow barriers only?
I think it's a good idea and would be fully supportive. |
I’m afraid that’s not quite true. Once you’ve been in the top two divisions for three seasons, you are required to be permanently all-seated. You can’t go back, even if the will is there.
That’s not to say we can’t install rail seating, but - with the law as it is - we can’t designate it as a standing area, even in League One. Hence the subtle difference between what Shrewsbury and, say, Spurs have done. Both have rail seating, but only Shrewsbury can legally call it a standing area; Spurs have to maintain the fiction that everyone there is required to sit down. | | | |
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