| Mask Wars: Episode II - Attack of the Moans 20:11 - Jun 19 with 1451 views | MerseyBlue |
Ahh yes, being made to ride at the back of the roller coaster is exactly the same as racial segregation.
The mother claims her daughter is mask-exempt but when you've got a cover photo of a flock of sheep with masks on at the top of your page I'm going to have to wonder if she's just mask-sceptic.
Thorpe Park have rightly stood their ground and explained that this approach is for the safety of everyone, even spoiled eejits.
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| Mask Wars: Episode II - Attack of the Moans on 20:17 - Jun 19 with 1404 views | StokieBlue |
Awful tweet that devalues the struggles of those who did have to stand at the back of the bus.
Some people really are total idiots and Twitbook unfortunately allows them a vector to prove it.
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| Mask Wars: Episode II - Attack of the Moans on 20:23 - Jun 19 with 1379 views | MerseyBlue |
| Mask Wars: Episode II - Attack of the Moans on 20:17 - Jun 19 by StokieBlue |
Awful tweet that devalues the struggles of those who did have to stand at the back of the bus.
Some people really are total idiots and Twitbook unfortunately allows them a vector to prove it.
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I don't know how anyone could have the brass neck to make the comparison they've made. A lot of people rightly calling them out for it but sadly also a lot of people who see it the same way. | |
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| Mask Wars: Episode II - Attack of the Moans on 20:42 - Jun 19 with 1344 views | jeera |
Dear god.
We shouldn't still be surprised should we, and yet here we are.
There must be some massive gaps in our education curriculum for this kind of talk to be as common as it seems to be.
I must admit I cannot remember being taught much about the history of racism and its roots when I was a kid at school so it's possible it was missing back then, but I did learn to read and am able to understand the things I have seen on TV and in actual life over the years.
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| Mask Wars: Episode II - Attack of the Moans on 20:52 - Jun 19 with 1318 views | ZXBlue |
I am going to suggest that about 95% of people claiming exemtpion do not have that on authority from any medical professional.
And about 50% of them do not actually have a good reason at all. |  | | |
| Mask Wars: Episode II - Attack of the Moans on 20:57 - Jun 19 with 1310 views | MerseyBlue |
| Mask Wars: Episode II - Attack of the Moans on 20:42 - Jun 19 by jeera |
Dear god.
We shouldn't still be surprised should we, and yet here we are.
There must be some massive gaps in our education curriculum for this kind of talk to be as common as it seems to be.
I must admit I cannot remember being taught much about the history of racism and its roots when I was a kid at school so it's possible it was missing back then, but I did learn to read and am able to understand the things I have seen on TV and in actual life over the years.
So where does this stuff come from? |
It's funny you mention the curriculum. I left school in the early 2000s and distinctly remember my year 8 history teacher telling us that we would be studying the Vikings rather than the civil rights movement. This was because there weren't any black students in our class, so the Vikings would somehow be more relevant to our everyday life...
Friends who are teachers have told me that things have changed quite a bit now, which I hope will make a big difference in the years to come. You're right though, there just seems to be a generation of people who are willfully ignorant of the hardships people of colour have endured.
With all of the advances in technology that have been made in my lifetime, I cannot see any reason why someone should be so ill-informed. Information is just an internet search away yet it feels like those who shout loudest dictate what huge swathes of people believe. | |
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| Mask Wars: Episode II - Attack of the Moans on 21:03 - Jun 19 with 1287 views | bluebudgie |
| Mask Wars: Episode II - Attack of the Moans on 20:52 - Jun 19 by ZXBlue |
I am going to suggest that about 95% of people claiming exemtpion do not have that on authority from any medical professional.
And about 50% of them do not actually have a good reason at all. |
Wheres, your proof??? |  | | |
| Mask Wars: Episode II - Attack of the Moans on 21:09 - Jun 19 with 1279 views | MerseyBlue |
| Mask Wars: Episode II - Attack of the Moans on 20:52 - Jun 19 by ZXBlue |
I am going to suggest that about 95% of people claiming exemtpion do not have that on authority from any medical professional.
And about 50% of them do not actually have a good reason at all. |
That figure wouldn't surprise me. When the pandemic started I had just left a job that was really bringing me down. I saw that the local 111 call-centre were looking for short-term staff which suited me and so I applied and got the job.
It was rewarding but it was also an extremely challenging and stressful job. One of the most frequent calls I received during the initial period when masks were being pushed was from people who believed they should be exempt, asking me to sign off that they didn't need to wear one.
I'm not a health professional and 111 can't do that sort of thing, so I would tell them that they would need to call their GP. The tirade of abuse that came my way on those calls was something else.
I'll never know if any of them were exempt or not, but it seems to me that if you really had a medical concern about mask exemption, you'd be more grateful for someone pointing you in the right direction than many of them were. [Post edited 19 Jun 2021 21:10]
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| Mask Wars: Episode II - Attack of the Moans on 21:13 - Jun 19 with 1252 views | jeera |
| Mask Wars: Episode II - Attack of the Moans on 20:57 - Jun 19 by MerseyBlue |
It's funny you mention the curriculum. I left school in the early 2000s and distinctly remember my year 8 history teacher telling us that we would be studying the Vikings rather than the civil rights movement. This was because there weren't any black students in our class, so the Vikings would somehow be more relevant to our everyday life...
Friends who are teachers have told me that things have changed quite a bit now, which I hope will make a big difference in the years to come. You're right though, there just seems to be a generation of people who are willfully ignorant of the hardships people of colour have endured.
With all of the advances in technology that have been made in my lifetime, I cannot see any reason why someone should be so ill-informed. Information is just an internet search away yet it feels like those who shout loudest dictate what huge swathes of people believe. |
Quite, as you say we have a wealth of knowledge at our fingertips and, (the misinformation that comes with it aside) and we are so fortunate to have that.
But, in between, we have also had books, and the amount of people I have heard say as an excuse that they left school at X age and seem to think that learning has to end right there.
You'd like to think as times change that we all make at least an iota of effort to go along with it, even if sometimes there has to be a bit of dragging involved.
My own mother would be mortified if I were to remind her of one of two things she said many years ago. I always say how proud I am of her for being open to learning from us, the next generation down, and I do try to take on board the same attitude too.
We are surrounded by all sorts of learning opportunities but we need to be receptive.
So what makes some people not only ignorant, but inclined to deliberately turn their backs on any progression?
Fear of being wrong in the past? I genuinely don't know. | |
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| Mask Wars: Episode II - Attack of the Moans on 21:30 - Jun 19 with 1227 views | MerseyBlue |
| Mask Wars: Episode II - Attack of the Moans on 21:13 - Jun 19 by jeera |
Quite, as you say we have a wealth of knowledge at our fingertips and, (the misinformation that comes with it aside) and we are so fortunate to have that.
But, in between, we have also had books, and the amount of people I have heard say as an excuse that they left school at X age and seem to think that learning has to end right there.
You'd like to think as times change that we all make at least an iota of effort to go along with it, even if sometimes there has to be a bit of dragging involved.
My own mother would be mortified if I were to remind her of one of two things she said many years ago. I always say how proud I am of her for being open to learning from us, the next generation down, and I do try to take on board the same attitude too.
We are surrounded by all sorts of learning opportunities but we need to be receptive.
So what makes some people not only ignorant, but inclined to deliberately turn their backs on any progression?
Fear of being wrong in the past? I genuinely don't know. |
Perhaps that is the trouble. People living in echo chambers and only hearing people agreeing with their prejudices for the most part.
That's very true, I have known many people who seem to take pride in not having read a book or keeping up with current affairs. Maybe because there is so much 'news' now, people feel the need to check out from reality and watch something that gives them a cosy laugh.
Absolutely, I think back to when I was at school and how it was commonplace to say something was 'gay' if it was thought to be uncool. That wasn't even just a playground thing either, I saw an old clip of Clarkson on Top Gear repeatedly calling a car 'gay' recently. I can completely relate with that bit about your mum too.
I think it could very well be that, a fear of having been wrong in the past. That's something I've noticed a lot in the last 10 years or so, people are just less willing to concede that they were wrong and will perform all kinds of mental gymnastics to justify their actions of beliefs.
Maybe it's that idea of being 'entitled to my opinion' that has become a different beast. People doubling down on what they have said because they're not willing to bend or grow. | |
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| Mask Wars: Episode II - Attack of the Moans on 21:37 - Jun 19 with 1214 views | Guthrum |
| Mask Wars: Episode II - Attack of the Moans on 21:13 - Jun 19 by jeera |
Quite, as you say we have a wealth of knowledge at our fingertips and, (the misinformation that comes with it aside) and we are so fortunate to have that.
But, in between, we have also had books, and the amount of people I have heard say as an excuse that they left school at X age and seem to think that learning has to end right there.
You'd like to think as times change that we all make at least an iota of effort to go along with it, even if sometimes there has to be a bit of dragging involved.
My own mother would be mortified if I were to remind her of one of two things she said many years ago. I always say how proud I am of her for being open to learning from us, the next generation down, and I do try to take on board the same attitude too.
We are surrounded by all sorts of learning opportunities but we need to be receptive.
So what makes some people not only ignorant, but inclined to deliberately turn their backs on any progression?
Fear of being wrong in the past? I genuinely don't know. |
People don't want to learn, they want to be entertained. |  |
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| Mask Wars: Episode II - Attack of the Moans on 21:37 - Jun 19 with 1219 views | Swansea_Blue |
Nothing to see here really. Twitter gives her a voice, but she’s clearly a bit daft. Most of the replies are as you’d expect. The first one is hard to beat: “Was she still allowed to wear her tin foil hat?”. |  |
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| Mask Wars: Episode II - Attack of the Moans on 21:49 - Jun 19 with 1193 views | MerseyBlue |
| Mask Wars: Episode II - Attack of the Moans on 21:37 - Jun 19 by Swansea_Blue |
Nothing to see here really. Twitter gives her a voice, but she’s clearly a bit daft. Most of the replies are as you’d expect. The first one is hard to beat: “Was she still allowed to wear her tin foil hat?”. |
That is a sensational reply! | |
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| Mask Wars: Episode II - Attack of the Moans on 22:43 - Jun 19 with 1120 views | factual_blue |
| Mask Wars: Episode II - Attack of the Moans on 20:57 - Jun 19 by MerseyBlue |
It's funny you mention the curriculum. I left school in the early 2000s and distinctly remember my year 8 history teacher telling us that we would be studying the Vikings rather than the civil rights movement. This was because there weren't any black students in our class, so the Vikings would somehow be more relevant to our everyday life...
Friends who are teachers have told me that things have changed quite a bit now, which I hope will make a big difference in the years to come. You're right though, there just seems to be a generation of people who are willfully ignorant of the hardships people of colour have endured.
With all of the advances in technology that have been made in my lifetime, I cannot see any reason why someone should be so ill-informed. Information is just an internet search away yet it feels like those who shout loudest dictate what huge swathes of people believe. |
Ahhh, but the Vikings were the first to arrive in North America, and so are to blame for Civil Rights problems over there. |  |
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| Mask Wars: Episode II - Attack of the Moans on 22:45 - Jun 19 with 1112 views | SpruceMoose |
| Mask Wars: Episode II - Attack of the Moans on 22:43 - Jun 19 by factual_blue |
Ahhh, but the Vikings were the first to arrive in North America, and so are to blame for Civil Rights problems over there. |
I think 'intrude' would be more fitting than 'arrive'! |  |
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| Mask Wars: Episode II - Attack of the Moans on 23:55 - Jun 19 with 1033 views | factual_blue |
| Mask Wars: Episode II - Attack of the Moans on 22:45 - Jun 19 by SpruceMoose |
I think 'intrude' would be more fitting than 'arrive'! |
With their horned helmets, some judicious cross-breeding with ungulates led to the appearance of the be-antlered Caribou/Elk. | |
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| Mask Wars: Episode II - Attack of the Moans on 23:56 - Jun 19 with 1034 views | lightuser |
| Mask Wars: Episode II - Attack of the Moans on 22:43 - Jun 19 by factual_blue |
Ahhh, but the Vikings were the first to arrive in North America, and so are to blame for Civil Rights problems over there. |
Haven't they recently pushed first arrival back to over 30k years ago and long before those pesky Viking slave traders turned up (no indication that they practiced this in North America, but it was endemic with them in Europe). A thrall was their name for a slave.
Anyway, as you say, nothing benevolent about them, just another empire built on greed, loot and slaves, that litters human history. | | | |
| Mask Wars: Episode II - Attack of the Moans on 23:57 - Jun 19 with 1035 views | factual_blue |
| Mask Wars: Episode II - Attack of the Moans on 23:56 - Jun 19 by lightuser |
Haven't they recently pushed first arrival back to over 30k years ago and long before those pesky Viking slave traders turned up (no indication that they practiced this in North America, but it was endemic with them in Europe). A thrall was their name for a slave.
Anyway, as you say, nothing benevolent about them, just another empire built on greed, loot and slaves, that litters human history. |
Yes, but slavery paid for some lovely houses in the English countryside. | |
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| Mask Wars: Episode II - Attack of the Moans on 09:23 - Jun 20 with 863 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Mask Wars: Episode II - Attack of the Moans on 21:37 - Jun 19 by Guthrum |
People don't want to learn, they want to be entertained. |
'Spectacular Times.' |  |
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| Mask Wars: Episode II - Attack of the Moans on 09:44 - Jun 20 with 823 views | Pendejo |
| Mask Wars: Episode II - Attack of the Moans on 20:57 - Jun 19 by MerseyBlue |
It's funny you mention the curriculum. I left school in the early 2000s and distinctly remember my year 8 history teacher telling us that we would be studying the Vikings rather than the civil rights movement. This was because there weren't any black students in our class, so the Vikings would somehow be more relevant to our everyday life...
Friends who are teachers have told me that things have changed quite a bit now, which I hope will make a big difference in the years to come. You're right though, there just seems to be a generation of people who are willfully ignorant of the hardships people of colour have endured.
With all of the advances in technology that have been made in my lifetime, I cannot see any reason why someone should be so ill-informed. Information is just an internet search away yet it feels like those who shout loudest dictate what huge swathes of people believe. |
When I took my O Level History mock exam in December 83 one of the questions I chose to answer regarded apartheid in South Africa, something we had not been taught in class, and it scored better than the other essay on a subject we were taught.
Mind you it was a big media subject then... Though long before internet access and all that brings: The Good, The Bad and The Ugly. So extra curricular study took real effort.
Anyway I thought the best place on the roller coaster was the back as there was marginally more "flick" there? |  |
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| Mask Wars: Episode II - Attack of the Moans on 10:03 - Jun 20 with 808 views | factual_blue |
| Mask Wars: Episode II - Attack of the Moans on 23:57 - Jun 19 by factual_blue |
Yes, but slavery paid for some lovely houses in the English countryside. |
Ahh, my mistake. My two degrees in History and several years experience as a volunteer in an historic property clearly don't qualify me to relate an historical fact. | |
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| Mask Wars: Episode II - Attack of the Moans on 10:25 - Jun 20 with 787 views | You_Bloo_Right |
| Mask Wars: Episode II - Attack of the Moans on 10:03 - Jun 20 by factual_blue |
Ahh, my mistake. My two degrees in History and several years experience as a volunteer in an historic property clearly don't qualify me to relate an historical fact. |
Well quite. About a third of NT properties "were built, benefited from or connected to the spoils of slavery and colonialism."
https://www.nationaltrust.org.uk/features/addressing-the-histories-of-slavery-an |  |
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| Mask Wars: Episode II - Attack of the Moans on 11:00 - Jun 20 with 748 views | factual_blue |
And, even more inconveniently for the slavery deniers, several tens of thousands of white people - mainly Scots and Irish - were sent into 'indentured servitude' to America in the 17th and 18th century.
'Indentured servitude' is what we now tend to call 'modern slavery'.
See also Australian convicts. | |
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