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Oops (n/t) 22:52 - Jul 11 with 751 viewsNthsuffolkblue

Southgate has done a great job but that decision to bring those two on was not a good one.
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Oops (n/t) on 22:56 - Jul 11 with 717 viewscatch74

Incorrect - he can only bring them on, right decision - they’re better penalty takers.
Fair enough if you’d called it as they came on.

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Oops (n/t) on 22:58 - Jul 11 with 693 viewsPinewoodblue

Agreed. You can’t expect anyone, who has sat in the bench for 120 minutes , to be dialed into the tension of a match.

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Oops (n/t) on 23:00 - Jul 11 with 666 viewsWacko

Absolutely terrible. Southgate should get credit for his motivational skills but a genius tactician? Give me a break

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Oops (n/t) on 23:00 - Jul 11 with 667 viewsBryanPlug

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Oops (n/t) on 23:00 - Jul 11 with 666 viewsNthsuffolkblue

Oops (n/t) on 22:56 - Jul 11 by catch74

Incorrect - he can only bring them on, right decision - they’re better penalty takers.
Fair enough if you’d called it as they came on.


I think the outcome makes you wrong.

The added pressure of having come on specifically to do that job is not going to help. Whether I said it when they came on or not is irrelevant.

Southgate has done a great job. That was not a good decision.

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Oops (n/t) on 23:00 - Jul 11 with 666 viewsITFC_96

This game is 100% on Southgate. Took too long to make subs. Easiest chance to win the World Cup and Euros and still scuffed both with poor decisions.
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Oops (n/t) on 23:01 - Jul 11 with 627 viewsNthsuffolkblue

Oops (n/t) on 23:00 - Jul 11 by ITFC_96

This game is 100% on Southgate. Took too long to make subs. Easiest chance to win the World Cup and Euros and still scuffed both with poor decisions.


Getting to this final is 100% on Southgate. No other England manager has managed it.

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Oops (n/t) on 23:01 - Jul 11 with 626 viewscatch74

Oops (n/t) on 23:00 - Jul 11 by Nthsuffolkblue

I think the outcome makes you wrong.

The added pressure of having come on specifically to do that job is not going to help. Whether I said it when they came on or not is irrelevant.

Southgate has done a great job. That was not a good decision.


I guess it was a good decision if we’d won, so I am wrong.

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Oops (n/t) on 23:01 - Jul 11 with 623 viewsSwansea_Blue

It’s the youth thing. Fantastic that they’re around the team and the future looks bright, but they’re just not ready now. A bit daft from Southgate to expose them.

No blame here btw. Personally I’d have kept people like Henderson and Grealish on to take a pen, but then I’m not the England manager.

Overall this squad can be extremely proud of what they’ve achieved and we should all be equally proud.

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Oops (n/t) on 23:02 - Jul 11 with 615 viewsParisBlue

I'd love to see the stats for how often a player who is subbed on for penalties actually scores it. Especially given the odds are with the player.

Carraghrer in 2006 is one who springs to mind.

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Oops (n/t) on 23:02 - Jul 11 with 613 viewsSimonds92

Oops (n/t) on 22:56 - Jul 11 by catch74

Incorrect - he can only bring them on, right decision - they’re better penalty takers.
Fair enough if you’d called it as they came on.


I called it personally because they've not kicked a ball. Id like to see the stats on bringing players on, pretty sure the miss rate must be higher.
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Oops (n/t) on 23:04 - Jul 11 with 576 viewscatch74

Oops (n/t) on 23:02 - Jul 11 by Simonds92

I called it personally because they've not kicked a ball. Id like to see the stats on bringing players on, pretty sure the miss rate must be higher.


Personally think Sara taking the last penalty was the worst decision.

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Oops (n/t) on 23:04 - Jul 11 with 576 viewsNthsuffolkblue

Oops (n/t) on 23:02 - Jul 11 by Simonds92

I called it personally because they've not kicked a ball. Id like to see the stats on bringing players on, pretty sure the miss rate must be higher.


Has to add pressure because that is then their only role.

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Oops (n/t) on 23:04 - Jul 11 with 559 viewsITFC_96

Oops (n/t) on 23:01 - Jul 11 by Nthsuffolkblue

Getting to this final is 100% on Southgate. No other England manager has managed it.


Let's be honest. We should have beaten every single team we've faced in the World Cup and this Euros other than Germany. His coaching skills have been severely overrated by the media.
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Oops (n/t) on 23:05 - Jul 11 with 530 viewsNthsuffolkblue

Oops (n/t) on 23:04 - Jul 11 by ITFC_96

Let's be honest. We should have beaten every single team we've faced in the World Cup and this Euros other than Germany. His coaching skills have been severely overrated by the media.


As should France ...

As should Belgium ...

In fact why shouldn't Switzerland or Denmark have as well?

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Oops (n/t) on 23:06 - Jul 11 with 523 viewscatch74

Oops (n/t) on 23:04 - Jul 11 by ITFC_96

Let's be honest. We should have beaten every single team we've faced in the World Cup and this Euros other than Germany. His coaching skills have been severely overrated by the media.


How many times has that been said though, at least we made the final.

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Oops (n/t) on 23:06 - Jul 11 with 521 viewswkj

The penalty-taking order was the biggest thing to me, put the most pressure on the youngest player if it goes the distance. I am still pleased as fook we went the distance in the Tourny, but irritated that we made the mistakes.

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Oops (n/t) on 23:07 - Jul 11 with 496 viewsBryanPlug

Oops (n/t) on 23:04 - Jul 11 by catch74

Personally think Sara taking the last penalty was the worst decision.


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Oops (n/t) on 23:08 - Jul 11 with 486 viewsNthsuffolkblue

Oops (n/t) on 23:06 - Jul 11 by wkj

The penalty-taking order was the biggest thing to me, put the most pressure on the youngest player if it goes the distance. I am still pleased as fook we went the distance in the Tourny, but irritated that we made the mistakes.


That 5th taker is a tricky one isn't it? Potentially the most pressure but also one that might not get taken if earlier ones get missed.

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Oops (n/t) on 23:08 - Jul 11 with 473 viewsRadlett_blue

Oops (n/t) on 23:06 - Jul 11 by wkj

The penalty-taking order was the biggest thing to me, put the most pressure on the youngest player if it goes the distance. I am still pleased as fook we went the distance in the Tourny, but irritated that we made the mistakes.


That would be my one beef. England have reached a semi final & final under Southgate. The average age of the team is 24. What more do people want?

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Oops (n/t) on 23:10 - Jul 11 with 455 viewsITFC_96

Oops (n/t) on 23:05 - Jul 11 by Nthsuffolkblue

As should France ...

As should Belgium ...

In fact why shouldn't Switzerland or Denmark have as well?


Literally only beaten Panama, Tunisia, Colombia, Sweden, Croatia, Czech Republic, Germany, Ukraine, Denmark though. The only team on that list is Germany, had we loss against any of the others it would have been somewhat of an embarrassment.
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