| Starmer Speech 13:16 - Sep 29 with 1061 views | Strimmer |
Not one mention of Bonne’s mpg? |  |
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| Starmer Speech on 13:31 - Sep 29 with 1024 views | BasingstokeBlue |
Why? How many miles per gallon are we getting out of him? |  |
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| Starmer Speech on 13:43 - Sep 29 with 1000 views | Digger77 |
| Starmer Speech on 13:31 - Sep 29 by BasingstokeBlue |
Why? How many miles per gallon are we getting out of him? |
What was all the red cards about? At Starmer, not Bonne. | | | |
| Starmer Speech on 13:53 - Sep 29 with 974 views | itfcjoe |
| Starmer Speech on 13:43 - Sep 29 by Digger77 |
What was all the red cards about? At Starmer, not Bonne. |
The muppets on the left of the party, who heckled him whilst talking about his mothers death, felt that waving a card the colour of their party will be seen as a protest about him 'giving him the red card' opposed to looking like support of him |  |
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| Starmer Speech on 13:55 - Sep 29 with 961 views | Herbivore |
| Starmer Speech on 13:53 - Sep 29 by itfcjoe |
The muppets on the left of the party, who heckled him whilst talking about his mothers death, felt that waving a card the colour of their party will be seen as a protest about him 'giving him the red card' opposed to looking like support of him |
They should really have given him the blue card. |  |
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| Starmer Speech on 14:00 - Sep 29 with 949 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
| Starmer Speech on 13:53 - Sep 29 by itfcjoe |
The muppets on the left of the party, who heckled him whilst talking about his mothers death, felt that waving a card the colour of their party will be seen as a protest about him 'giving him the red card' opposed to looking like support of him |
Was a bit weird. Lots of weird shouts. I get why there are certain complaints of Starmers leadership, I have a few myself.
But I thought it was a good speech, was please to see Labour actually admitting that the previous government did something good, still don’t think he can beat Johnson, but there you go. |  |
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| Starmer Speech on 14:04 - Sep 29 with 925 views | itfcjoe |
| Starmer Speech on 14:00 - Sep 29 by TRUE_BLUE123 |
Was a bit weird. Lots of weird shouts. I get why there are certain complaints of Starmers leadership, I have a few myself.
But I thought it was a good speech, was please to see Labour actually admitting that the previous government did something good, still don’t think he can beat Johnson, but there you go. |
Yep - this conference has really been used to purge the left of the party and set it back up in a place where it may be able to win an election from.
The bit re levelling up at the end very important, and Labour have spent too long embarrassed by the New Labour period which actually delivered real change to real people.
The fact a Shadow Minister resigned this week over not pushing for a £15 minimum wage and a statutory sick pay at those rates just shows how much they actually care about getting elected on that wing. | |
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| Starmer Speech on 14:08 - Sep 29 with 904 views | ElderGrizzly |
| Starmer Speech on 14:04 - Sep 29 by itfcjoe |
Yep - this conference has really been used to purge the left of the party and set it back up in a place where it may be able to win an election from.
The bit re levelling up at the end very important, and Labour have spent too long embarrassed by the New Labour period which actually delivered real change to real people.
The fact a Shadow Minister resigned this week over not pushing for a £15 minimum wage and a statutory sick pay at those rates just shows how much they actually care about getting elected on that wing. |
That faction don't care about being elected, they just want to be seen to be 'right'.
Ex-MPs like Laura Pidcock are an example. She lost her seat under a Corbyn manifesto that she is now whinging that Starmer isn't copying.
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| Starmer Speech on 14:09 - Sep 29 with 892 views | itfcjoe |
| Starmer Speech on 14:08 - Sep 29 by ElderGrizzly |
That faction don't care about being elected, they just want to be seen to be 'right'.
Ex-MPs like Laura Pidcock are an example. She lost her seat under a Corbyn manifesto that she is now whinging that Starmer isn't copying.
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She was first one BBC spoke to, said speech was too long, no olive branch out to left of party etc.......serial loser | |
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| Starmer Speech on 14:11 - Sep 29 with 874 views | unstableblue |
| Starmer Speech on 13:53 - Sep 29 by itfcjoe |
The muppets on the left of the party, who heckled him whilst talking about his mothers death, felt that waving a card the colour of their party will be seen as a protest about him 'giving him the red card' opposed to looking like support of him |
If find it bizarre that the hard left of the party, which dominated under Corbyn, still think they have any chance of election on that platform???
Whilst I support some of its ideals.
It’s unelectable.
Can they not see that supporting a centrist move and leader is the only way to get this damaging Tory government out of power?? |  |
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| Starmer Speech on 14:16 - Sep 29 with 851 views | ElderGrizzly |
| Starmer Speech on 14:11 - Sep 29 by unstableblue |
If find it bizarre that the hard left of the party, which dominated under Corbyn, still think they have any chance of election on that platform???
Whilst I support some of its ideals.
It’s unelectable.
Can they not see that supporting a centrist move and leader is the only way to get this damaging Tory government out of power?? |
And being in power is how you get your policies enacted.
McDonald was saying Starmer should look at Biden for how to bring together a party, even when Biden has switched a few positions since election.
While also failing to realise the 'left' of the Dems have also stood behind Biden for the main, not heckled him while he talked about the death of a family member. | | | |
| Starmer Speech on 14:18 - Sep 29 with 839 views | Digger77 |
| Starmer Speech on 13:53 - Sep 29 by itfcjoe |
The muppets on the left of the party, who heckled him whilst talking about his mothers death, felt that waving a card the colour of their party will be seen as a protest about him 'giving him the red card' opposed to looking like support of him |
There were loads of them.
Great to see a united Labour party for a change, haha! | | | |
| Starmer Speech on 14:26 - Sep 29 with 813 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
| Starmer Speech on 14:08 - Sep 29 by ElderGrizzly |
That faction don't care about being elected, they just want to be seen to be 'right'.
Ex-MPs like Laura Pidcock are an example. She lost her seat under a Corbyn manifesto that she is now whinging that Starmer isn't copying.
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Aaahhhhh Laura Pidcock
The Tories greatest asset | |
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| Starmer Speech on 14:29 - Sep 29 with 806 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
| Starmer Speech on 14:04 - Sep 29 by itfcjoe |
Yep - this conference has really been used to purge the left of the party and set it back up in a place where it may be able to win an election from.
The bit re levelling up at the end very important, and Labour have spent too long embarrassed by the New Labour period which actually delivered real change to real people.
The fact a Shadow Minister resigned this week over not pushing for a £15 minimum wage and a statutory sick pay at those rates just shows how much they actually care about getting elected on that wing. |
There will then be complaints from people that nobody from the left is in the cabinet, cause they are all leaving.
I think a combination of what new labour did with education and with the NHS, with fresh new policies, such as mental health hubs, a green new deal. Is a good base to build a manifesto on. I’m still not sure he is managing to hammer the message home to those who aren’t active followers of politics. But he has time to work on that.
But that speech was Blair-esque just without the extra shine. | |
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| Starmer Speech on 14:39 - Sep 29 with 780 views | ElderGrizzly |
| Starmer Speech on 14:09 - Sep 29 by itfcjoe |
She was first one BBC spoke to, said speech was too long, no olive branch out to left of party etc.......serial loser |
Here it is. She isn't bitter at all. Oh no...
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| Starmer Speech on 15:06 - Sep 29 with 728 views | Darth_Koont |
| Starmer Speech on 14:11 - Sep 29 by unstableblue |
If find it bizarre that the hard left of the party, which dominated under Corbyn, still think they have any chance of election on that platform???
Whilst I support some of its ideals.
It’s unelectable.
Can they not see that supporting a centrist move and leader is the only way to get this damaging Tory government out of power?? |
It’s not the hard left of the party. It’s people who believe in socialist or at least genuine social democratic policies to address major issues that are currently being ignored.
Those policies are popular when presented to people on the street. It’s only the “unelectable” or “not credible” packaging that’s given to that kind of policy platform by the mainstream media and establishment politicians that prevents these frequently better alternatives being debated. |  |
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| Starmer Speech on 15:12 - Sep 29 with 707 views | Darth_Koont |
| Starmer Speech on 14:16 - Sep 29 by ElderGrizzly |
And being in power is how you get your policies enacted.
McDonald was saying Starmer should look at Biden for how to bring together a party, even when Biden has switched a few positions since election.
While also failing to realise the 'left' of the Dems have also stood behind Biden for the main, not heckled him while he talked about the death of a family member. |
But Biden embraced the left in an electoral coalition and has taken on some of its issues.
Starter is entirely rejecting the left (and its voters) because it’s not about winning an election anytime soon. It’s really about shoring up the left side of the establishment. | |
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| Starmer Speech on 15:51 - Sep 29 with 636 views | tractordownsouth |
| Starmer Speech on 14:09 - Sep 29 by itfcjoe |
She was first one BBC spoke to, said speech was too long, no olive branch out to left of party etc.......serial loser |
Her record is phenomenal.
May 2017 - loses a Northumberland council safe seat to the Tories on a 25% swing.
December 2019 - loses North West Durham, a seat held by Labour with an 8000 majoirty, despite being one of the main voices in the PLP advocating the snap election, spending Election Day outside her constituency and not preparing a concession speech.
April 2020- runs Richard Burgon’s deputy leadership campaign and finishes 3rd, behind Rosena Allin Khan, who even political geeks like me hadn’t heard of at the time. |  |
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