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What did the ref do that warranted quite such a reaction from Wednesday? 08:29 - Sep 18 with 2023 viewsDubtractor

He was obviously rubbish, for both teams, but I can't think of any outrageous decisions to have justified quite that reaction. You've think he gave us a weak penalty, or disallowed a goal of theirs, rather than just a few borderline decisions wrong.

It all seemed to ramp up when the thought they should have had a corner in the first half - and that didn't look like it was a corner anyway.

Its hard not to conclude that they got a few decisions in the last 20 minutes, not least the offside goal, as a result of the officials being worried about inflaming the situation. I'm not blaming the ref for us throwing away the win - Burns gets my ire there for one of the stupidest fouls I've seen all season!

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What did the ref do that warranted quite such a reaction from Wednesday? on 08:43 - Sep 18 with 1936 viewsfranz_tyson

Not sure. Wasn't one thing. I got stuck with their commentary team and they were equally as partisan. They were convinced we were getting all decisions. For one, complaining about us not allowing them to take quick free kicks whilst they ignored their players doing the same thing,

If the ref was guilty of giving us the benefit of a few 50/50's then they got the better deal with the one massive decision which was the offside equaliser.
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It was definitely a corner…. on 08:55 - Sep 18 with 1882 viewsBloots

….and right in front of their more “lively” fans.

I think their anger was a result of a number of 50/50s going against them around the same time.

There were also a number of instances when they didn’t get the decision and immediately afterwards we did.

Plus the very strange “offside in your own half” incident.

It was a build up of poor decisions (in their view) rather than one biggie.

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What did the ref do that warranted quite such a reaction from Wednesday? on 08:59 - Sep 18 with 1849 viewsportmanking

I think, a lot of times, referees get the frustrations of expectant home crowds when they realise their team isn't as good/playing as well as they want them to. Wednesday were pretty laboured and lacklustre for most of that game yesterday. I think their fans were just taking it out on the officials, although they were pretty poor for both sides yesterday.
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What did the ref do that warranted quite such a reaction from Wednesday? on 09:00 - Sep 18 with 1839 viewsMuncher

There were a lot of really questionable decisions, several instances where throw ins were given or not given in the first half which looked really dubious from my view point. We seemed to be getting the benefit of those poor decisions more often than not in the first half.
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What did the ref do that warranted quite such a reaction from Wednesday? on 09:05 - Sep 18 with 1803 viewsgringoblue

Yeah it was weird atmosphere in the first half. From what I can gather there were four incidents in the first half that enraged them.

- Jackson and Iorfa challenged for the ball at their end and we got given a corner (couldn’t see that from away end)
- ball flagged out of play on their left side when ball was played down the line. Their stand went crazy and I think that was when the object throwing started
- our offside free kick taken in their own half (which was the correct place to take it following the rule change 3 years ago!)
- Sheffield weds player headed the ball on the back of john-jules’ head and he gave a goal kick (this looked clearly wrong)

But there was nothing game changing there. Just some standard wrong line decisions. Bannan was in the ref’s ear constantly because his team were playing poorly and he wasn’t getting time and space on the ball (last 20 minutes he did and it cost us).

They also seemed mad at Donacien going down for a while first half. I think it was a good time for a break, from our point of view, but he seemed genuinely hurt and I saw him pop some painkillers as he walked off the pitch.
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What did the ref do that warranted quite such a reaction from Wednesday? on 09:53 - Sep 18 with 1633 viewslongtimefan

It was definitely the “corner” incident that made them kick off against the referee’s assistant. From my view it was absolutely a corner but why they got so incensed about it I’m not really sure, it was a fairly standard L1 official’s decision!
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It was definitely a corner…. on 10:06 - Sep 18 with 1563 viewslongtimefan

It was definitely a corner…. on 08:55 - Sep 18 by Bloots

….and right in front of their more “lively” fans.

I think their anger was a result of a number of 50/50s going against them around the same time.

There were also a number of instances when they didn’t get the decision and immediately afterwards we did.

Plus the very strange “offside in your own half” incident.

It was a build up of poor decisions (in their view) rather than one biggie.


“Plus the very strange “offside in your own half” incident. “

Classic football fans not knowing the Laws of the game moment!
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It was definitely a corner…. on 10:07 - Sep 18 with 1553 viewsgringoblue

It was definitely a corner…. on 10:06 - Sep 18 by longtimefan

“Plus the very strange “offside in your own half” incident. “

Classic football fans not knowing the Laws of the game moment!


And players!
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Perfectly happy…. on 10:13 - Sep 18 with 1509 viewsBloots

It was definitely a corner…. on 10:06 - Sep 18 by longtimefan

“Plus the very strange “offside in your own half” incident. “

Classic football fans not knowing the Laws of the game moment!


….to admit that I wasn’t aware of the law until after the game.

I suspect that I’m in the vast majority as well.

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It was definitely a corner…. on 10:25 - Sep 18 with 1449 viewsMattinLondon

It was definitely a corner…. on 10:06 - Sep 18 by longtimefan

“Plus the very strange “offside in your own half” incident. “

Classic football fans not knowing the Laws of the game moment!


Missed this. What happened?
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It was definitely a corner…. on 11:37 - Sep 18 with 1274 viewslongtimefan

It was definitely a corner…. on 10:25 - Sep 18 by MattinLondon

Missed this. What happened?


Smith being given offside for coming back from an offside position to win the ball, and the offside free kick being given where he played he ball, which was 10 yards inside his own half. Became law around 2016 I believe. Often not correctly enforced by officials, so probably explains why many are confused!
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It was definitely a corner…. on 11:45 - Sep 18 with 1220 viewspointofblue

It was definitely a corner…. on 10:25 - Sep 18 by MattinLondon

Missed this. What happened?


Smith came back from an offside position to the play the ball and was flagged accordingly. The feee kick was correctly taken from where he touched the ball, rather than where he was offside, which was the expectation of some.

They felt at least two other ‘key’ decisions went against them:
- They thought the ball went out in the build up to our first
- They thought play should have been pulled back for a free kick to them in the build up to our second

Some on their forum do acknowledge the 5v1 situation at 1-2, where we could have had a break away but the ref pulled it back for a free kick rather than playing advantage, and say he was over-zealous in their favour in the last 20 minutes. Though to counter the second point, they also think Harness could have been sent out for persistent fouling. They seem split on whether the equaliser was offside.

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Perfectly happy…. on 11:46 - Sep 18 with 1219 viewslongtimefan

Perfectly happy…. on 10:13 - Sep 18 by Bloots

….to admit that I wasn’t aware of the law until after the game.

I suspect that I’m in the vast majority as well.


I see Sitters downvoted me so I assume he’s not as honest as you
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It was definitely a corner…. on 11:58 - Sep 18 with 1184 viewsgringoblue

It was definitely a corner…. on 11:45 - Sep 18 by pointofblue

Smith came back from an offside position to the play the ball and was flagged accordingly. The feee kick was correctly taken from where he touched the ball, rather than where he was offside, which was the expectation of some.

They felt at least two other ‘key’ decisions went against them:
- They thought the ball went out in the build up to our first
- They thought play should have been pulled back for a free kick to them in the build up to our second

Some on their forum do acknowledge the 5v1 situation at 1-2, where we could have had a break away but the ref pulled it back for a free kick rather than playing advantage, and say he was over-zealous in their favour in the last 20 minutes. Though to counter the second point, they also think Harness could have been sent out for persistent fouling. They seem split on whether the equaliser was offside.


You can see those two incidents on the extnded highlights SW have posted.

Impossible to tell if the ball went out in the build up to the first goal. I don't think it was even a foul on Iorfa. Looks like he fan in to Leigh an they kicked the ball at the same time.

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It was definitely a corner…. on 12:40 - Sep 18 with 1095 viewsStenvict

It was definitely a corner…. on 11:37 - Sep 18 by longtimefan

Smith being given offside for coming back from an offside position to win the ball, and the offside free kick being given where he played he ball, which was 10 yards inside his own half. Became law around 2016 I believe. Often not correctly enforced by officials, so probably explains why many are confused!
[Post edited 18 Sep 2022 11:38]


I also had no idea of this rule. Are free kicks from offside decisions always taken from where contact with the ball is made? Seems such a strange rule.

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It was definitely a corner…. on 13:21 - Sep 18 with 1005 viewsjeera

It was definitely a corner…. on 10:06 - Sep 18 by longtimefan

“Plus the very strange “offside in your own half” incident. “

Classic football fans not knowing the Laws of the game moment!


And to be fair many didn't immediately comprehend what was going on.

Compounded for those watching online by the commentators questioning it too.

You'd think they might know but didn't.

Makes sense now it's been explained, sure, but totally confused me at the time I have to say.

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