That rotter Putin. on 12:54 - Dec 4 with 2948 views | HARRY10 | Apparently the nurses strike is being carried out to help Putin. A ludicrous and insulting attempt to deflect from his government's incompetence. |  | |  |
That rotter Putin. on 12:55 - Dec 4 with 2964 views | XYZ | Well, after delivering Putin's Brexit and accepting all those donations, he should know what his master wants. |  | |  |
That rotter Putin. on 12:56 - Dec 4 with 2962 views | Keno | Maybe we should cut mps pay but go out and clap for them on Thursday evening They obviously think it was good enough for the nurses |  |
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That rotter Putin. on 13:00 - Dec 4 with 2940 views | BlueBadger |
That rotter Putin. on 12:56 - Dec 4 by Keno | Maybe we should cut mps pay but go out and clap for them on Thursday evening They obviously think it was good enough for the nurses |
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That rotter Putin. on 13:27 - Dec 4 with 2867 views | DJR | I thought everything was Jeremy Corbyn's fault. |  | |  |
That rotter Putin. on 13:50 - Dec 4 with 2823 views | BlueandTruesince82 | Has to be said this is desperate stuff from Zahawi. A desperately transparent heartstring pull that no one will buy, just looks out of touch. Kim Jong Un loves it when people WHF. Fact. If you don't fo back to the office you support North Korea. |  |
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That rotter Putin. on 14:02 - Dec 4 with 2764 views | noggin |
That rotter Putin. on 13:27 - Dec 4 by DJR | I thought everything was Jeremy Corbyn's fault. |
Everything is his fault. He is an evil communist, IRA bomber. |  |
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That rotter Putin. on 14:12 - Dec 4 with 2750 views | Guthrum |
That rotter Putin. on 12:56 - Dec 4 by Keno | Maybe we should cut mps pay but go out and clap for them on Thursday evening They obviously think it was good enough for the nurses |
Half of them have had to take second jobs, the poor lambs. Can't live on £84k per year (plus expenses). |  |
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That rotter Putin. on 14:34 - Dec 4 with 2695 views | BanksterDebtSlave | That's the problem with unquestioningly accepting the Putin narrative when it supports your team's view. Its a lazy narrative either way. |  |
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That rotter Putin. on 15:03 - Dec 4 with 2621 views | HARRY10 |
That rotter Putin. on 12:54 - Dec 4 by HARRY10 | Apparently the nurses strike is being carried out to help Putin. A ludicrous and insulting attempt to deflect from his government's incompetence. |
How to make a twt of yourself "In an interview with Sky News’s Sophy Ridge On Sunday programme, Zahawi was shown a graph detailing Labour’s poll lead. “I would be worried if I was Keir Starmer,” he said." "The latest YouGov poll showed Labour leading on 47%, with the Conservatives trailing a distant second on 22%." Which would give Lab 480, Con 59. And in one of the year's understatements "Polling guru professor John Curtice said Labour was now in a “stronger position” than at any point over the last 12 years and would “undoubtedly” win a majority if the by-election result was replicated at the general election." I don't think anyone would expect that to be the result, but since Jan Labour have not fallen below an 8 point lead. And despite talk of a Tory bounce back in the polls.... once they had booted out the corrupt Johnson, or once they had removed the clueless Truss, and now they have the all new singing and dancing Sunak. Whereas the Labour lead has continued to grow. I doubt whether the latest Tory MP to be accused of rape will help either*. That being set against the backdrop of perceived incompetence over the economy and pretty much every other area measured. The longer the Tories hang on, the more damaging long term it will be for them. And Zahawi is merely making a bigger twt of himself by spouting such nonsense (as above) as there is no credibility in him or his words. * https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/tory-mp-rape-claims-kevin-hollinrake-b2238 |  | |  |
That rotter Putin. on 15:19 - Dec 4 with 2596 views | XYZ |
That rotter Putin. on 14:34 - Dec 4 by BanksterDebtSlave | That's the problem with unquestioningly accepting the Putin narrative when it supports your team's view. Its a lazy narrative either way. |
Have a read of the Mueller report. Then there's that bloke doing time in the USA for funneling Putin money to Trump's 2016 campaign. Then there's the UK Parliament report that Johnson suppressed. "Narrative" indeed. |  | |  |
That rotter Putin. on 16:01 - Dec 4 with 2504 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
That rotter Putin. on 15:19 - Dec 4 by XYZ | Have a read of the Mueller report. Then there's that bloke doing time in the USA for funneling Putin money to Trump's 2016 campaign. Then there's the UK Parliament report that Johnson suppressed. "Narrative" indeed. |
I haven’t said there is nothing in it but it gets over egged. Edit....if you think that Trump was voted in due to Putin or that Brexit was down to Russian influence then I would suggest that is pretty naive. [Post edited 4 Dec 2022 16:04]
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That rotter Putin. on 16:07 - Dec 4 with 2480 views | HARRY10 |
That rotter Putin. on 15:19 - Dec 4 by XYZ | Have a read of the Mueller report. Then there's that bloke doing time in the USA for funneling Putin money to Trump's 2016 campaign. Then there's the UK Parliament report that Johnson suppressed. "Narrative" indeed. |
And the Russian 'loan' that funded Le Pens brand of fascism - who coincidentally ran an anti EU campaign. Also funded were the Alternative für Deutschland in Germany and the anti-EU Lega party of Matteo Salvini in Italy. But not in the UK. Absolutely not. Though there have been plenty of unanswered questions about who really funded the Leave campaign. Was that £1.8m (that we know of) Russian donations to Johnson and the Tory Party merely for a game of tennis, as claimed ? Did the bloater give the son of a former KGB agent a knighthood for nothing. No quid pro quo. Absolutely not. Just a coincidence that his dad having been a KGB colonel (?). As was Johnson's support for Putin's 2014 invasion of Crimea. Though when the pro brexit, ever Tory loyal, rightwing Daily Express is raising concerns then even the dimmest might begin to wonder how far reaching was this interference https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1669273/russian-meddling-brexit-referendum-fun |  | |  |
That rotter Putin. on 16:20 - Dec 4 with 2438 views | BlueBadger |
That rotter Putin. on 14:34 - Dec 4 by BanksterDebtSlave | That's the problem with unquestioningly accepting the Putin narrative when it supports your team's view. Its a lazy narrative either way. |
Whut |  |
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That rotter Putin. on 16:22 - Dec 4 with 2433 views | XYZ |
That rotter Putin. on 16:01 - Dec 4 by BanksterDebtSlave | I haven’t said there is nothing in it but it gets over egged. Edit....if you think that Trump was voted in due to Putin or that Brexit was down to Russian influence then I would suggest that is pretty naive. [Post edited 4 Dec 2022 16:04]
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Putin threw significant resources at helping both Trump and Brexit to happen. Both happened. Downplaying Putin's role in helping to create the sh!tshow that is US and UK politics in spite of all the publicly available independent evidence is beyond naive. How is Baron Siberia these days - you know the one whose father is a KGB agent? |  | |  |
That rotter Putin. on 16:27 - Dec 4 with 2418 views | DJR |
That rotter Putin. on 16:07 - Dec 4 by HARRY10 | And the Russian 'loan' that funded Le Pens brand of fascism - who coincidentally ran an anti EU campaign. Also funded were the Alternative für Deutschland in Germany and the anti-EU Lega party of Matteo Salvini in Italy. But not in the UK. Absolutely not. Though there have been plenty of unanswered questions about who really funded the Leave campaign. Was that £1.8m (that we know of) Russian donations to Johnson and the Tory Party merely for a game of tennis, as claimed ? Did the bloater give the son of a former KGB agent a knighthood for nothing. No quid pro quo. Absolutely not. Just a coincidence that his dad having been a KGB colonel (?). As was Johnson's support for Putin's 2014 invasion of Crimea. Though when the pro brexit, ever Tory loyal, rightwing Daily Express is raising concerns then even the dimmest might begin to wonder how far reaching was this interference https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1669273/russian-meddling-brexit-referendum-fun |
In my view, Brexit was won because of 30 years of anti-EU propaganda in the right-wing press, an effective right-wing media campaign, a very canny operator in Cummings and, most importantly of all, a "great" frontman and campaigner in the form of Johnson. I said at the time Johnson opted for Brexit that I feared Leave would win, and this turned out to be the case. Russia no doubt interfered (as many countries try to interfere in the affairs of other countries) but I think any influence it had was minimal. Indeed, the bizarre story that Channel 4 ran about Russian links to a mine that Aaron Banks had in South Africa turned out to be a red herring. I speak as someone who campaigned on the streets for Remain, and saw at first hand the effect that the Johnson-led campaign had on people. [Post edited 4 Dec 2022 16:30]
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That rotter Putin. on 16:50 - Dec 4 with 2362 views | BlueBadger |
That rotter Putin. on 13:27 - Dec 4 by DJR | I thought everything was Jeremy Corbyn's fault. |
Fair play to Jezza, the Tories needed bribing to make excuses for Putin, he did it gratis. |  |
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That rotter Putin. on 16:58 - Dec 4 with 2326 views | noggin |
Yeah but...... erm... |  |
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That rotter Putin. on 16:58 - Dec 4 with 2323 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
That rotter Putin. on 16:20 - Dec 4 by BlueBadger | Whut |
A little like letting the markets determine your 'realistic' economic options. |  |
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That rotter Putin. on 16:59 - Dec 4 with 2315 views | DJR |
That rotter Putin. on 16:58 - Dec 4 by noggin | Yeah but...... erm... |
Your point is? |  | |  |
That rotter Putin. on 17:01 - Dec 4 with 2297 views | noggin |
That rotter Putin. on 16:59 - Dec 4 by DJR | Your point is? |
My point was supporting your post. |  |
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That rotter Putin. on 17:02 - Dec 4 with 2283 views | DJR |
That rotter Putin. on 17:01 - Dec 4 by noggin | My point was supporting your post. |
Apologies. I'm obviously a bit dim! |  | |  |
That rotter Putin. on 17:04 - Dec 4 with 2283 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
That rotter Putin. on 16:22 - Dec 4 by XYZ | Putin threw significant resources at helping both Trump and Brexit to happen. Both happened. Downplaying Putin's role in helping to create the sh!tshow that is US and UK politics in spite of all the publicly available independent evidence is beyond naive. How is Baron Siberia these days - you know the one whose father is a KGB agent? |
Helping to create and creating are different things, ask Victoria Nuland. Helping to create is a function of all global powers of course......sadly. As far as the op goes relating to strikes it is obvious bs but the bs will be swallowed by many due to the background over egged narrative of Russian influence. |  |
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That rotter Putin. on 17:15 - Dec 4 with 2264 views | DJR |
Another narrative on Corbyn that really annoys me is that the 2019 election was the worst election result for Labour since 1935. That is true when it comes to the number of seats won, but that was because Labour had lost virtually all MPs in Scotland starting in 2015, which was before Corbyn became leader. In terms of share of the vote (including a much-reduced share in Scotland), Labour in 2019 actually got a higher percentage of the vote than in 2010 and 2015. Indeed, it was only 3% below the Blair vote in 2005, and might have equalled that had the Labour vote in Scotland not collapsed. But why let the truth stand in the way of a narrative that the Labour Party is keen to promote, in order to prevent any future chance of a left-wing leader. [Post edited 4 Dec 2022 17:16]
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