| With the run into the second half of the season 11:00 - Dec 16 with 2499 views | carlisleaway |
Do you think McKenna will get Baggott and any other players back to give us that freshness and backbone to the club |  | | |  |
| With the run into the second half of the season on 11:22 - Dec 16 with 2440 views | lurcher |
I think he will loan or buy in players from above us leaving our youngsters where they are. |  | | |
| With the run into the second half of the season on 11:25 - Dec 16 with 2431 views | Kieran_Knows |
Nope, leave them all out on loan. Why bring them back to play a bit part role?
No doubt we will sign 2-3 in January, just makes no sense to recall loan players. |  |
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| With the run into the second half of the season on 11:39 - Dec 16 with 2380 views | ArnoldMoorhen |
| With the run into the second half of the season on 11:25 - Dec 16 by Kieran_Knows |
Nope, leave them all out on loan. Why bring them back to play a bit part role?
No doubt we will sign 2-3 in January, just makes no sense to recall loan players. |
It does if they are going to play. Gives them an opportunity to prove themselves a level higher, shows them that they are in the plans long-term, and demonstrates that Wright is being genuine in what he says about the academy as a pathway.
Because of the situation with younger players not counting towards squad limits, there is a very good case for getting bodies back into the building, with our injury list.
Conversely, those suggesting that we might bring Pigott back from Portsmouth miss the point that giving him a squad place takes away the possibility of filling it with somebody better. And would free up Portsmouth's budget to enable them to strengthen elsewhere. |  | | |
| With the run into the second half of the season on 13:13 - Dec 16 with 2291 views | J2BLUE |
| With the run into the second half of the season on 11:39 - Dec 16 by ArnoldMoorhen |
It does if they are going to play. Gives them an opportunity to prove themselves a level higher, shows them that they are in the plans long-term, and demonstrates that Wright is being genuine in what he says about the academy as a pathway.
Because of the situation with younger players not counting towards squad limits, there is a very good case for getting bodies back into the building, with our injury list.
Conversely, those suggesting that we might bring Pigott back from Portsmouth miss the point that giving him a squad place takes away the possibility of filling it with somebody better. And would free up Portsmouth's budget to enable them to strengthen elsewhere. |
They aren't going to play though, at least not when we have everyone fit. Makes much more sense to leave them where they are if they are doing well and loan in another player who is ahead of them in terms of development and can offer more immediately. |  |
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| With the run into the second half of the season on 13:23 - Dec 16 with 2240 views | unstableblue |
I think Baggot will stay, League Two is a great learning place for a centre back, our young Indonesian has all the silky skills and pass/control needed to succeed in the Championship - he just needs beefing up and more of the dark arts.
I think he will come into contention next season. He’s that good.
I would consider bringing El Miz back and playing him. My Leyton Orient mates are just raving about him. He’s had the game time. He’s ready. Crucially he never let us down when he did play anyway for Town, underrated. He brings a Morsy like energy, is perfect back for the captain, Humphreys and Evans. But he should be brought back in to play some minutes not warm the bench.
Penny is having a good loan, but I’m not a fan, and with Leigh back, is not needed.
Ndaba only just coming into the Burton team after injury. And needs a run in their team ahead of a return in the summer. He didn’t impress me as much as Baggot in pre-season anyway.
Harper has been an unused Sub for the last two games for Exeter, which says it all. He’s not going to make it at Town I’m afraid. Despite having good attributes and being good mates with Edwards!
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| With the run into the second half of the season on 13:38 - Dec 16 with 2219 views | ParisBlue |
| With the run into the second half of the season on 13:23 - Dec 16 by unstableblue |
I think Baggot will stay, League Two is a great learning place for a centre back, our young Indonesian has all the silky skills and pass/control needed to succeed in the Championship - he just needs beefing up and more of the dark arts.
I think he will come into contention next season. He’s that good.
I would consider bringing El Miz back and playing him. My Leyton Orient mates are just raving about him. He’s had the game time. He’s ready. Crucially he never let us down when he did play anyway for Town, underrated. He brings a Morsy like energy, is perfect back for the captain, Humphreys and Evans. But he should be brought back in to play some minutes not warm the bench.
Penny is having a good loan, but I’m not a fan, and with Leigh back, is not needed.
Ndaba only just coming into the Burton team after injury. And needs a run in their team ahead of a return in the summer. He didn’t impress me as much as Baggot in pre-season anyway.
Harper has been an unused Sub for the last two games for Exeter, which says it all. He’s not going to make it at Town I’m afraid. Despite having good attributes and being good mates with Edwards!
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Pretty much agree re: the loanees and El-Miz coming back and getting game time. Penny might depend on fitness of Davis and Leigh. His contract ends in May.
I think we'll see some loans incoming, probably youngsters of similar profile to TJJ, or Dominic Thompson last year. Any permanents would hopefully be with a view to next season in the Championship, so by definition too good for League 1. |  |
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| With the run into the second half of the season on 14:04 - Dec 16 with 2167 views | ScotBlue |
Not sure around the terms of the loans but could we bring El Miz back for January [recall at the beginning and loan out again at the end] to give us that additional coverage in midfield with Evans just coming back, Humphreys needing a possible break, Panutche still not fit. It might just give some added cover over that month allowing him to go back out on loan and get a run of games.
All other loans I would leave where they are to get some games and re asses in the summer. | | | |
| With the run into the second half of the season on 14:28 - Dec 16 with 2125 views | Broadhill |
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| With the run into the second half of the season on 14:37 - Dec 16 with 2094 views | southnorfolkblue |
| With the run into the second half of the season on 13:23 - Dec 16 by unstableblue |
I think Baggot will stay, League Two is a great learning place for a centre back, our young Indonesian has all the silky skills and pass/control needed to succeed in the Championship - he just needs beefing up and more of the dark arts.
I think he will come into contention next season. He’s that good.
I would consider bringing El Miz back and playing him. My Leyton Orient mates are just raving about him. He’s had the game time. He’s ready. Crucially he never let us down when he did play anyway for Town, underrated. He brings a Morsy like energy, is perfect back for the captain, Humphreys and Evans. But he should be brought back in to play some minutes not warm the bench.
Penny is having a good loan, but I’m not a fan, and with Leigh back, is not needed.
Ndaba only just coming into the Burton team after injury. And needs a run in their team ahead of a return in the summer. He didn’t impress me as much as Baggot in pre-season anyway.
Harper has been an unused Sub for the last two games for Exeter, which says it all. He’s not going to make it at Town I’m afraid. Despite having good attributes and being good mates with Edwards!
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I’d agree with that and go a bit further and say that if El Miz is to have a future at the Club he has to come back because he’ll never get a better opportunity to show that he belongs in the match day squad. If he is left at Orient he’ll just come back in the summer with so many players already ahead of him. I don’t see how he forces his way into the team unless he comes back now and plays a positive role in the second half of the season | |
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| With the run into the second half of the season on 14:53 - Dec 16 with 2054 views | jayessess |
| With the run into the second half of the season on 14:37 - Dec 16 by southnorfolkblue |
I’d agree with that and go a bit further and say that if El Miz is to have a future at the Club he has to come back because he’ll never get a better opportunity to show that he belongs in the match day squad. If he is left at Orient he’ll just come back in the summer with so many players already ahead of him. I don’t see how he forces his way into the team unless he comes back now and plays a positive role in the second half of the season |
I think Evans' quicker than anticipated return might see us hold fire on El Mizouni's return. I think if we can avoid it we'll likely rather have Idris complete the first 40-game season of his career and re-assess how we think he's developed next Summer.
Don't see that it's now or never for El Mizouni really. He's done what he needed to do in his loan spell.
I do think sometimes our sense of young player development is slightly off. We all think Sam Morsy is absolute class, but at El Mizouni's age he was also only just having his break-out season in League 2 with Chesterfield. [Post edited 16 Dec 2022 15:18]
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| With the run into the second half of the season on 16:01 - Dec 16 with 1935 views | BigCommon |
Judging by Ashton's recent comments about us being active in the January window. And KM's comments about us bringing players in that will "improve" the squad. I can't see us recalling anyone, tbh.. I recon Baggot, El Miz, Ndaba etc, could fill a gap in an emergency. But not sure if they would actually improve our squad, as it stands.. Just my op'.
El Miz is having a good season at Orient and despite Gills league position, Baggot is having a decent season there, too. Don't think Ndaba has played much at Burton due to injury. I recon if any of them were here already, then they might get a run out whilst we are low on numbers. But I would be surprised if any of them were recalled, especially, to add to our squad numbers for the second half of the season. Think we are more likely to see one or two incomings...
Personally, I think that if we are in a position, financially to add more strength/quality to our squad. Then it's a no brainer to add a couple more players, even if we've got a few coming back from injury, just to push hard for promotion. And not get caught out with more injuries... We've put ourselves in such a good position. I'd like to see us really send a message, with a couple of quality additions in the window.. |  | | |
| With the run into the second half of the season on 17:20 - Dec 16 with 1840 views | jayessess |
| With the run into the second half of the season on 16:01 - Dec 16 by BigCommon |
Judging by Ashton's recent comments about us being active in the January window. And KM's comments about us bringing players in that will "improve" the squad. I can't see us recalling anyone, tbh.. I recon Baggot, El Miz, Ndaba etc, could fill a gap in an emergency. But not sure if they would actually improve our squad, as it stands.. Just my op'.
El Miz is having a good season at Orient and despite Gills league position, Baggot is having a decent season there, too. Don't think Ndaba has played much at Burton due to injury. I recon if any of them were here already, then they might get a run out whilst we are low on numbers. But I would be surprised if any of them were recalled, especially, to add to our squad numbers for the second half of the season. Think we are more likely to see one or two incomings...
Personally, I think that if we are in a position, financially to add more strength/quality to our squad. Then it's a no brainer to add a couple more players, even if we've got a few coming back from injury, just to push hard for promotion. And not get caught out with more injuries... We've put ourselves in such a good position. I'd like to see us really send a message, with a couple of quality additions in the window.. |
Ndaba's recovered from his injuries and started the last 2 for Burton. Now he's got himself in the team, I reckon we'll be happy if he gets a good 20 games or so for them between now and the end of the season.
It's probably a bit more complicated than just looking to improve the squad at centre midfield. In Evans, Morsy, Camara and Ball we've got four senior players who'd start when fit for every other team in the division, plus 2 other good young players who will likely be at that level soon enough in Humphreys and El Mizouni. There's a balance between having the short term squad depth for the second half of the season and ending up with too many there in the medium term. | |
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| With the run into the second half of the season on 17:42 - Dec 16 with 1801 views | NthQldITFC |
| With the run into the second half of the season on 16:01 - Dec 16 by BigCommon |
Judging by Ashton's recent comments about us being active in the January window. And KM's comments about us bringing players in that will "improve" the squad. I can't see us recalling anyone, tbh.. I recon Baggot, El Miz, Ndaba etc, could fill a gap in an emergency. But not sure if they would actually improve our squad, as it stands.. Just my op'.
El Miz is having a good season at Orient and despite Gills league position, Baggot is having a decent season there, too. Don't think Ndaba has played much at Burton due to injury. I recon if any of them were here already, then they might get a run out whilst we are low on numbers. But I would be surprised if any of them were recalled, especially, to add to our squad numbers for the second half of the season. Think we are more likely to see one or two incomings...
Personally, I think that if we are in a position, financially to add more strength/quality to our squad. Then it's a no brainer to add a couple more players, even if we've got a few coming back from injury, just to push hard for promotion. And not get caught out with more injuries... We've put ourselves in such a good position. I'd like to see us really send a message, with a couple of quality additions in the window.. |
I think that's probably right although I wouldn't be averse to El Miz or Baggot coming back for the reasons above. The other thing about bringing in players that can improve the squad is if we're getting in top notch Championship level players, we're giving them half a season to integrate with the squad ready for next season, if you know what I mean without saying it! |  |
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| With the run into the second half of the season on 17:48 - Dec 16 with 1795 views | strikalite |
| With the run into the second half of the season on 14:04 - Dec 16 by ScotBlue |
Not sure around the terms of the loans but could we bring El Miz back for January [recall at the beginning and loan out again at the end] to give us that additional coverage in midfield with Evans just coming back, Humphreys needing a possible break, Panutche still not fit. It might just give some added cover over that month allowing him to go back out on loan and get a run of games.
All other loans I would leave where they are to get some games and re asses in the summer. |
Yep agree, we don't want to be left short and El Miz would be ideal, he's up to speed and playing well and to find a player who ticks those boxes and available in Jan is damn near impossible.. |  | | |
| With the run into the second half of the season on 21:27 - Dec 16 with 1640 views | BigCommon |
| With the run into the second half of the season on 17:42 - Dec 16 by NthQldITFC |
I think that's probably right although I wouldn't be averse to El Miz or Baggot coming back for the reasons above. The other thing about bringing in players that can improve the squad is if we're getting in top notch Championship level players, we're giving them half a season to integrate with the squad ready for next season, if you know what I mean without saying it! |
I wouldn't be averse to either coming back tbf, I don't think they'd weaken the overall squad. But I don't think they'd particularly strengthen it, in terms of quality, either... I just think, that if we're a club in a position to add (assuming the right players are available), then I think we should do. With both, promotion from L1, and life in The Championship in mind.. Like you say. If we can get some Championship quality in, they'll be well bedded in by next season. And I believe, that the FFP rules, or L1 equivalent , make it more viable to sign one or two of potentially , "next seasons" players, whilst we are still in L1...? Without wanting to sound blase . I think any incomings should be done, with Championship in mind. Easier said than done.
Hard to know what KM has in mind for El Miz. He was given a decent crack here, back end of last season, but was swiftly loaned out, this season and a relatively, untried Humphreys kept on..? (Which has gone rather well so far).
Baggot? I thought he did alright in the few games he played in last season. And he's been very consistent out on loan at Gills. So, probably a big pre season for him in the Summer, to try and work his way into the picture. Think he signed a new contract under KM? Which tells us that he's thought highly of, I'd assume.. I like him. And I've tried quite hard to follow his progress out on loan. He's too good for Lg2, imo. | | | |
| With the run into the second half of the season on 07:41 - Dec 17 with 1403 views | cressi |
| With the run into the second half of the season on 21:27 - Dec 16 by BigCommon |
I wouldn't be averse to either coming back tbf, I don't think they'd weaken the overall squad. But I don't think they'd particularly strengthen it, in terms of quality, either... I just think, that if we're a club in a position to add (assuming the right players are available), then I think we should do. With both, promotion from L1, and life in The Championship in mind.. Like you say. If we can get some Championship quality in, they'll be well bedded in by next season. And I believe, that the FFP rules, or L1 equivalent , make it more viable to sign one or two of potentially , "next seasons" players, whilst we are still in L1...? Without wanting to sound blase . I think any incomings should be done, with Championship in mind. Easier said than done.
Hard to know what KM has in mind for El Miz. He was given a decent crack here, back end of last season, but was swiftly loaned out, this season and a relatively, untried Humphreys kept on..? (Which has gone rather well so far).
Baggot? I thought he did alright in the few games he played in last season. And he's been very consistent out on loan at Gills. So, probably a big pre season for him in the Summer, to try and work his way into the picture. Think he signed a new contract under KM? Which tells us that he's thought highly of, I'd assume.. I like him. And I've tried quite hard to follow his progress out on loan. He's too good for Lg2, imo. |
Nobody will be back in January
We will buy proven players
Or they will take a punt on young Premier league players prob on loan I imagine it will happen early and are already set up well most of the deals how Ipswich now works. | | | |
| With the run into the second half of the season on 09:55 - Dec 17 with 1310 views | Bluespeed225 |
Bit of Championship quality to get us over the line. | | | |
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