| Iran 21:50 - Dec 12 with 4636 views | Mullet |
I'd say it's shocking but it's not |  |
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| Iran on 22:07 - Dec 12 with 4120 views | Guthrum |
The risk is that the Basji/Revolutionary Guard (perhaps with Russian* help) will go full-on repressive and crush the protests with open lethal force.
* Moscow can't afford to see one of its major allies and arms suppliers collapse. |  |
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| Iran on 22:10 - Dec 12 with 4089 views | Swansea_Blue |
Disgusting. I see there’s also a campaign to get a doctor freed who’s been sentenced to death (falsely, allegedly) just because he spoke out. Years back we did a bit of work in Iran. Seems like they’ve gone downhill since then. Kudos to those who are speaking out - takes massive guts. |  |
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| Iran on 23:15 - Dec 12 with 3956 views | jeera |
There were always going to be consequences for displaying displeasure at their government so publicly, which makes the stance he and others have taken so brave.
Were do you even start with this madness? So backward and inward thinking it doesn't seem real.
You have to wonder if the loons in charge actually believe in half the sh1t they push or whether it really is just a means of control. Probably a sizeable element of both.
Why do countries such as Iran want to compete on the world stage in sport? It cannot be for diplomatic interests when they are so openly oppressive. |  |
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| Iran on 23:48 - Dec 12 with 3899 views | Churchman |
| Iran on 23:15 - Dec 12 by jeera |
There were always going to be consequences for displaying displeasure at their government so publicly, which makes the stance he and others have taken so brave.
Were do you even start with this madness? So backward and inward thinking it doesn't seem real.
You have to wonder if the loons in charge actually believe in half the sh1t they push or whether it really is just a means of control. Probably a sizeable element of both.
Why do countries such as Iran want to compete on the world stage in sport? It cannot be for diplomatic interests when they are so openly oppressive. |
It’s just a means of control. Control is power. Power over everything from thought to peoples’ lives. Warped people, all of them, but there is far to many of them in this world.
Those that speak out, whether it’s a Russian journalist with a placard, a student in front of a tank or people in Iran, they are incredibly brave. Amazing people. I don’t know how they summon the courage.
Where do you start in dealing with these states? I don’t know. Maybe stop trading with them? Isolate them? Support those who are pushing against them with resources? Weedy suggestions, but standing by has happened on far too many occasions. |  | | |
| Iran on 00:16 - Dec 13 with 3849 views | XYZ |
| Iran on 23:48 - Dec 12 by Churchman |
It’s just a means of control. Control is power. Power over everything from thought to peoples’ lives. Warped people, all of them, but there is far to many of them in this world.
Those that speak out, whether it’s a Russian journalist with a placard, a student in front of a tank or people in Iran, they are incredibly brave. Amazing people. I don’t know how they summon the courage.
Where do you start in dealing with these states? I don’t know. Maybe stop trading with them? Isolate them? Support those who are pushing against them with resources? Weedy suggestions, but standing by has happened on far too many occasions. |
Not ceasing producing penicillin because China are cheaper would seem a bit obvious ... |  | | |
| Iran on 06:57 - Dec 13 with 3619 views | bobbyramsey |
"Years back we did a bit of work in Iran. Seems like they’ve gone downhill since then."
The more liberal the world has become (most of it) the more Iran appears to "double down." |  | | |
| Iran on 09:32 - Dec 13 with 3412 views | Guthrum |
| Iran on 06:57 - Dec 13 by bobbyramsey |
"Years back we did a bit of work in Iran. Seems like they’ve gone downhill since then."
The more liberal the world has become (most of it) the more Iran appears to "double down." |
Of course. Gives the rectionary leadership a target to rail against. | |
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| Iran on 17:19 - Dec 13 with 3202 views | jeera |
Young chap, only 23, was hanged yesterday for daring to protest. They're far from alone by the looks of it:
https://chng.it/vdwTz9YZm9 | |
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| Iran on 17:38 - Dec 13 with 3176 views | Eireannach_gorm |
| Iran on 17:19 - Dec 13 by jeera |
Young chap, only 23, was hanged yesterday for daring to protest. They're far from alone by the looks of it:
https://chng.it/vdwTz9YZm9 |
Two 15yr olds! |  | | |
| Iran on 07:54 - Dec 14 with 2994 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
They are a vile regime and have been for some time. Reminder that Saint Jeremy took money from the Iranian state to appear on TV. | | | |
| Iran on 13:26 - Dec 14 with 2776 views | itfc_bucks |
| Iran on 07:54 - Dec 14 by SuperKieranMcKenna |
They are a vile regime and have been for some time. Reminder that Saint Jeremy took money from the Iranian state to appear on TV. |
If you want to go down that particular route, shall we look at the flow of Roubles towards the Tory party? | | | |
| Iran on 14:43 - Dec 14 with 2698 views | XYZ |
| Iran on 13:26 - Dec 14 by itfc_bucks |
If you want to go down that particular route, shall we look at the flow of Roubles towards the Tory party? |
... and Farage. | | | |
| Iran on 14:51 - Dec 14 with 2670 views | jaykay |
| Iran on 13:26 - Dec 14 by itfc_bucks |
If you want to go down that particular route, shall we look at the flow of Roubles towards the Tory party? |
yeah but he is not a tory ,he stopped when his hero stopped funny enough |  |
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| Iran on 15:10 - Dec 14 with 2659 views | Radlett_blue |
The real question is what does, or should, the rest of the world, particularly the developed West, do about such states?
Boycott them? Try to encourage/foment revolution?
These things become tied into global geo-politics e.g. Iran has long been an ally of Russia, as a counterweight to USA or "The Great Satan". |  |
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| Iran on 16:16 - Dec 14 with 2608 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
| Iran on 13:26 - Dec 14 by itfc_bucks |
If you want to go down that particular route, shall we look at the flow of Roubles towards the Tory party? |
I think that’s quite well documented on here and widely criticised, whereas Jezza tends to get a few pass. One does not excuse the other… [Post edited 14 Dec 2022 16:19]
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| Iran on 16:21 - Dec 14 with 2587 views | XYZ |
| Iran on 16:16 - Dec 14 by SuperKieranMcKenna |
I think that’s quite well documented on here and widely criticised, whereas Jezza tends to get a few pass. One does not excuse the other… [Post edited 14 Dec 2022 16:19]
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One wasn't the elected government.
Is there a Baron Tehran or just a Baron Siberia? | | | |
| Iran on 16:21 - Dec 14 with 2589 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
| Iran on 15:10 - Dec 14 by Radlett_blue |
The real question is what does, or should, the rest of the world, particularly the developed West, do about such states?
Boycott them? Try to encourage/foment revolution?
These things become tied into global geo-politics e.g. Iran has long been an ally of Russia, as a counterweight to USA or "The Great Satan". |
They are heavily sanctioned and certainly been hit in terms of oil exports. That said their great enemy Saudi Arabia seems to do quite nicely with a similarly poor outlook on human rights (not to mention Yemen. | | | |
| Iran on 16:23 - Dec 14 with 2555 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
| Iran on 16:21 - Dec 14 by XYZ |
One wasn't the elected government.
Is there a Baron Tehran or just a Baron Siberia? |
He would have been in government had he not been less popular than Teresa May… | | | |
| Iran on 16:28 - Dec 14 with 2540 views | XYZ |
| Iran on 16:23 - Dec 14 by SuperKieranMcKenna |
He would have been in government had he not been less popular than Teresa May… |
He's in the past - what's the obsession?
Who has actually harmed the country? Corbyn? | | | |
| Iran on 16:44 - Dec 14 with 2505 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Iran on 14:51 - Dec 14 by jaykay |
yeah but he is not a tory ,he stopped when his hero stopped funny enough |
He's gone from my alter id to my hero. Your powers of deduction aren't what they used to be. |  |
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| Iran on 16:45 - Dec 14 with 2503 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Iran on 13:26 - Dec 14 by itfc_bucks |
If you want to go down that particular route, shall we look at the flow of Roubles towards the Tory party? |
Can't we just condemn both? | |
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| Iran on 21:06 - Dec 14 with 2390 views | itfc_bucks |
| Iran on 16:45 - Dec 14 by GlasgowBlue |
Can't we just condemn both? |
Indeed, but proportionality is a thing. Corbyn never realistically got anywhere near power.
And a few appearances on Iranian TV is a far cry from what's been going on in the shadows around CCHQ. | | | |
| Iran on 22:37 - Dec 14 with 2233 views | Churchman |
| Iran on 16:45 - Dec 14 by GlasgowBlue |
Can't we just condemn both? |
I condemn anyone who takes money from those places and people, whether in public life or not.
For me, there’s no one is worse than the other, whataboutery or anything else. There’s a line in my world. Stay behind it or up to it, fine, cross it and you’re finished. Who am I to dictate standards? Nobody. It’s just a view and a rule I’ve always lived by.. | | | |
| Iran on 07:20 - Dec 15 with 2117 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Iran on 21:06 - Dec 14 by itfc_bucks |
Indeed, but proportionality is a thing. Corbyn never realistically got anywhere near power.
And a few appearances on Iranian TV is a far cry from what's been going on in the shadows around CCHQ. |
It annoys me to see Corbyn’s work with Iranian State Tv as just a few appearances. He was paid tens of thousands of Lunda by the Iranian state to promote their propaganda.
During his time in the station he engaged in antisemitic conspiracies, congratulated terrorists on their release from prison (calling them brothers and questioning why they were in Prison in the first place, despite them being responsible for the deaths of over 600 people, including ten schoolchildren and a British Rabbi), praised the Iranian regime for its “inclusivity, tolerance and acceptance”.
Whilst he was shilling for the Iranian state, they were cracking down on legitimate protest and Press TV was banned by ofcom in the UK for its part in filming the detention and torture of an Iranian journalist.
As for Corbyn getting nowhere near power, we are constantly told how he nearly won the 2017 general election.
Defending Corbyn by shouting Whatabouttery at the Tories is no excuse. Boris Johnson is a loathsome individual who who took money from Russian donors should have been nowhere near number 10. Jeremy Corbyn is a loathsome individual who took money from the Iranian state and should have been nowhere near number 10. Neither statement is mutually exclusive. | |
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| Iran on 21:51 - Dec 15 with 1960 views | GlasgowBlue |
If the devil should cast his net.
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