| After the Lincoln game 12:05 - Jan 15 with 3309 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
Everyone was (correctly) bemoaning the fact that although we are a very good team, we just aren't clinical enough.
So, we've signed two forward players, one was injured, on one was on the bench, starting the exact same team as at Lincoln, and yet here we are again, with people surprised at the result.
We need an aerially dominant CB in this window as well for me.
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| After the Lincoln game on 13:17 - Jan 15 with 3199 views | Scuzzer |
I would be really interested in Burgess' stats for winning aerial contests. He very rarely loses one and is most probably the best in the club in this area. His only weakness seems to be getting caught slightly out of position.
Nor sure we would get an improvement in what we already have.
Harry McGuire looks like he will be on the move....but then again! |  |
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| After the Lincoln game on 13:18 - Jan 15 with 3187 views | pointofblue |
| After the Lincoln game on 13:17 - Jan 15 by Scuzzer |
I would be really interested in Burgess' stats for winning aerial contests. He very rarely loses one and is most probably the best in the club in this area. His only weakness seems to be getting caught slightly out of position.
Nor sure we would get an improvement in what we already have.
Harry McGuire looks like he will be on the move....but then again! |
I think I’d prefer to keep Burgess! |  |
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| After the Lincoln game on 16:47 - Jan 15 with 3054 views | Ely_Blue |
Think you’ll find Jackson started at Lincoln not Ladapo |  |
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| After the Lincoln game on 17:20 - Jan 15 with 2954 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| After the Lincoln game on 16:47 - Jan 15 by Ely_Blue |
Think you’ll find Jackson started at Lincoln not Ladapo |
Same thing isn't it?
Neither of our players, signed because we weren't clinical enough started. | |
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| After the Lincoln game on 17:24 - Jan 15 with 2925 views | blueislander |
| After the Lincoln game on 17:20 - Jan 15 by Cheltenham_Blue |
Same thing isn't it?
Neither of our players, signed because we weren't clinical enough started. |
So, you would have started Hirst who is not yet match fit, and Broadhead was injured. What is the point of your post.? | | | |
| After the Lincoln game on 17:33 - Jan 15 with 2893 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| After the Lincoln game on 17:24 - Jan 15 by blueislander |
So, you would have started Hirst who is not yet match fit, and Broadhead was injured. What is the point of your post.? |
If you can manage it, read the OP again, and then you might figure it out. | |
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| After the Lincoln game on 17:40 - Jan 15 with 2865 views | ibbleobble |
We signed Burgess because his heading stats were the best in the league season before last. Not sure what an aerially dominant centre back would have done to stop the budgie cutting inside and bending one top corner yesterday. | | | |
| After the Lincoln game on 17:54 - Jan 15 with 2817 views | PhilTWTD |
Not sure why there's so much talk about centre-backs after yesterday. Don't really think they did an awful lot wrong with the goal. For me, it was Davis and Humphreys pushing out after the ball was initially clear, presumably looking to break, which put them the wrong side of Mumba when the pass was played to him which was the main error on the goal. |  | | |
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| After the Lincoln game on 18:05 - Jan 15 with 2756 views | DJR |
| After the Lincoln game on 17:54 - Jan 15 by PhilTWTD |
Not sure why there's so much talk about centre-backs after yesterday. Don't really think they did an awful lot wrong with the goal. For me, it was Davis and Humphreys pushing out after the ball was initially clear, presumably looking to break, which put them the wrong side of Mumba when the pass was played to him which was the main error on the goal. |
Indeed, it is not obvious to me that our main defenders (Donacien, Woolfy and Burgess) have been at fault for any of the goals we've conceded in the last month or so, if not the whole season. |  | | |
| After the Lincoln game on 18:15 - Jan 15 with 2702 views | bluefunk |
| After the Lincoln game on 18:05 - Jan 15 by DJR |
Indeed, it is not obvious to me that our main defenders (Donacien, Woolfy and Burgess) have been at fault for any of the goals we've conceded in the last month or so, if not the whole season. |
I’d have burgess to bkame for Wycombe’s goal before Christmas, but otherwise agree with that |  | | |
| After the Lincoln game on 18:17 - Jan 15 with 2672 views | FrimleyBlue |
Like a Burgess you mean? |  |
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| After the Lincoln game on 19:18 - Jan 15 with 2550 views | blueislander |
| After the Lincoln game on 17:33 - Jan 15 by Cheltenham_Blue |
If you can manage it, read the OP again, and then you might figure it out. |
So , basically you are saying that despite being the top scorers in the league , we are not clinical enough?
This is the third tier. What are you expecting ? | | | |
| After the Lincoln game on 20:18 - Jan 15 with 2491 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| After the Lincoln game on 19:18 - Jan 15 by blueislander |
So , basically you are saying that despite being the top scorers in the league , we are not clinical enough?
This is the third tier. What are you expecting ? |
Don’t ask me, ask McKenna. He said it, I just repeated it.
You’re another one that seems a bit triggered. | |
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| After the Lincoln game on 20:42 - Jan 15 with 2411 views | TalkingBlues |
| After the Lincoln game on 17:54 - Jan 15 by PhilTWTD |
Not sure why there's so much talk about centre-backs after yesterday. Don't really think they did an awful lot wrong with the goal. For me, it was Davis and Humphreys pushing out after the ball was initially clear, presumably looking to break, which put them the wrong side of Mumba when the pass was played to him which was the main error on the goal. |
Bit of both I think, was it Burgess with the dreadful clearance along the ground, centre of the goal, straight back to oppo that directly led to the goal? I honestly can’t remember who it was, but if that’s cleared as it should have been, the whole situation is defused. |  |
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| After the Lincoln game on 21:09 - Jan 15 with 2362 views | PhilTWTD |
| After the Lincoln game on 20:42 - Jan 15 by TalkingBlues |
Bit of both I think, was it Burgess with the dreadful clearance along the ground, centre of the goal, straight back to oppo that directly led to the goal? I honestly can’t remember who it was, but if that’s cleared as it should have been, the whole situation is defused. |
Perhaps, I don't actually remember the clearance and was missing from the highlights I saw. Having said that, it did end up a fair way outside the area, even if not far enough.
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| After the Lincoln game on 21:16 - Jan 15 with 2298 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| After the Lincoln game on 21:09 - Jan 15 by PhilTWTD |
Perhaps, I don't actually remember the clearance and was missing from the highlights I saw. Having said that, it did end up a fair way outside the area, even if not far enough.
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Yep,
Burgess with a half clearance/slap instead of leathering it. It's on the 'replay' at 3h 21m 33s.
I'm not sure about "a fair way outside the area", more like 6 yards outside the area. I was sat right behind it in the Sir Alf.
https://www.itfc.co.uk/matches/fixtures/first-team/202223/january/ipswich-town-v [Post edited 15 Jan 2023 21:23]
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| After the Lincoln game on 21:31 - Jan 15 with 2228 views | PhilTWTD |
Looking at it, I'm not sure whether he was trying to find Morsy with the clearance and Morsy turns it onto Aziz. Had Morsy left it it would have gone out of play, I think. Still think Davis and Humphreys getting the wrong side of Mumba was a bigger issue than the clearance. Once the ball is with Aziz we should have been tighter to Mumba and been able to deal with the situation. | | | |
| After the Lincoln game on 21:33 - Jan 15 with 2213 views | TalkingBlues |
That's the one, yes, thanks.
Couldn't tell at the time what it was meant to be, but now looks like he was trying to play it to Morsy, rather than leathering it into the stands, gets it all wrong and passes straight back to the oppo, who proceed to score straight after, I notice it is also Burgess that gets the deflection  | |
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| After the Lincoln game on 21:46 - Jan 15 with 2164 views | TalkingBlues |
| After the Lincoln game on 21:31 - Jan 15 by PhilTWTD |
Looking at it, I'm not sure whether he was trying to find Morsy with the clearance and Morsy turns it onto Aziz. Had Morsy left it it would have gone out of play, I think. Still think Davis and Humphreys getting the wrong side of Mumba was a bigger issue than the clearance. Once the ball is with Aziz we should have been tighter to Mumba and been able to deal with the situation. |
In fairness to Morsy and the others, they’re probably expecting Burgess to put it into row Z and start pushing out, but they still didn’t cover themselves in glory when attempting to stop a shot.
I imagine McK has showed that video and said that the ball should have been put out of play and no attempt made to keep it live in that scenario. | |
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| After the Lincoln game on 22:01 - Jan 15 with 2103 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| After the Lincoln game on 21:46 - Jan 15 by TalkingBlues |
In fairness to Morsy and the others, they’re probably expecting Burgess to put it into row Z and start pushing out, but they still didn’t cover themselves in glory when attempting to stop a shot.
I imagine McK has showed that video and said that the ball should have been put out of play and no attempt made to keep it live in that scenario. |
And further back from that was a cheap turnover of possession by Hirst getting caught offside.
It was a series of little errors that end up getting punished.
Ultimately the season hangs on cutting out as many errors as we can. |  |
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| After the Lincoln game on 23:12 - Jan 15 with 2020 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| After the Lincoln game on 22:01 - Jan 15 by Nthsuffolkblue |
And further back from that was a cheap turnover of possession by Hirst getting caught offside.
It was a series of little errors that end up getting punished.
Ultimately the season hangs on cutting out as many errors as we can. |
And this is us for me, a cumulative effect of lots of little things, rather than the catastrophising that we've seen on the board last night and today. The week before last, Chaplin was slapping in shots from all over the place, even when blocked by defenders, instead of passing to better placed players.
Even if Burgess was trying to play the ball to Morsy, trying to play yourself out of trouble in the last 5 minutes of a match, when defending a narrow lead is madness. putting it out of the ground is just basic.
I do wonder of sometimes, we think we are too good, and because the squad is so good, we are prone to over complicating it. Plymouth were piling forward, there's nothing wrong with leaving Hirst on the halfway line and sending one over the top for him to chase. | |
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| After the Lincoln game on 08:54 - Jan 16 with 1807 views | FrimleyBlue |
| After the Lincoln game on 21:33 - Jan 15 by TalkingBlues |
That's the one, yes, thanks.
Couldn't tell at the time what it was meant to be, but now looks like he was trying to play it to Morsy, rather than leathering it into the stands, gets it all wrong and passes straight back to the oppo, who proceed to score straight after, I notice it is also Burgess that gets the deflection |
Unfortunately not pelting the ball away is something that happens when you go with the modern football way of defending.
So many times with watching motd etc or live prem football, you'll think a hoof is the right choice but they try to play out of trouble. Same with keepers and why Walton nearly fked up Saturday. | |
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| After the Lincoln game on 09:11 - Jan 16 with 1742 views | gringoblue |
| After the Lincoln game on 23:12 - Jan 15 by Cheltenham_Blue |
And this is us for me, a cumulative effect of lots of little things, rather than the catastrophising that we've seen on the board last night and today. The week before last, Chaplin was slapping in shots from all over the place, even when blocked by defenders, instead of passing to better placed players.
Even if Burgess was trying to play the ball to Morsy, trying to play yourself out of trouble in the last 5 minutes of a match, when defending a narrow lead is madness. putting it out of the ground is just basic.
I do wonder of sometimes, we think we are too good, and because the squad is so good, we are prone to over complicating it. Plymouth were piling forward, there's nothing wrong with leaving Hirst on the halfway line and sending one over the top for him to chase. |
yep, just before that JD rushed a clearance straight back to Plymouth as well. Then you have Burgess' clearance, which I think he was trying to play to Morsy to be fair and he just couldn't get hold of it. It looks like Humphreys is in a funny position, directly behind Morsy, which leaves Davis with two players to worry about and Mumba too much space. |  | | |
| After the Lincoln game on 10:20 - Jan 16 with 1660 views | RIPbobby |
They took off Wilson for an attacking player. Had we a bit more game sense we could have over loaded the single centre half left (scar) and got a second goal.
Mind you we did look like we were dead on our feet out there. I would have not bought Edwards on I'd have used Jackson who would have been a lot more mobile. Mind you I'd have had aluko and leigh on the bench too. |  | | |
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