| My biggest concern... 11:11 - Feb 5 with 1986 views | portmanking |
Is that we're burnt out. Pure and simple. Although it's laudable to train and play at such high intensity, does it work with anything but elite-level players? At League One, on heavy pitches, does it simply kill us?
Too many of our senior lads have been inconsistent of late. Even the likes of Morsy aren't stamping their mark on games. We were clearly at peak physical condition in the first half of the season and steam-rollered most teams, but it doesn't feel the same right now. We look lead-footed and pedestrian too often to make this system work.
After the encouragement of Morecambe and Burnley, yesterday was a genuine body blow. To go from pure mid-table form to winning 14 of our last 17 seems as foolhardy as Liz Truss right now. |  | | |  |
| My biggest concern... on 11:13 - Feb 5 with 1970 views | Herbivore |
We didn't look burnt out last weekend, or a few days previous. Think this is an overreaction to a poor performance yesterday. |  |
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| My biggest concern... on 11:15 - Feb 5 with 1944 views | portmanking |
| My biggest concern... on 11:13 - Feb 5 by Herbivore |
We didn't look burnt out last weekend, or a few days previous. Think this is an overreaction to a poor performance yesterday. |
We've looked burnt out in many games since Nov/Dec. Last weekend was actually an anomaly (hence the hope/optimism pre-Cambridge) IMO.
Even Keogh talks about our 'hard running' and that's what makes us tick. But in doing so have we just run our key players into the ground? Morsy, Burns, Davis, all a shadow of their selves from Aug-Oct. | | | |
| My biggest concern... on 11:17 - Feb 5 with 1912 views | pointofblue |
| My biggest concern... on 11:15 - Feb 5 by portmanking |
We've looked burnt out in many games since Nov/Dec. Last weekend was actually an anomaly (hence the hope/optimism pre-Cambridge) IMO.
Even Keogh talks about our 'hard running' and that's what makes us tick. But in doing so have we just run our key players into the ground? Morsy, Burns, Davis, all a shadow of their selves from Aug-Oct. |
Which games have we looked burned out in, first half yesterday aside, this season?
Yesterday was arrogance, pure and simple. I’d say, if anything, we have more of a mentality problem than physical. | |
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| My biggest concern... on 11:19 - Feb 5 with 1902 views | Herbivore |
| My biggest concern... on 11:15 - Feb 5 by portmanking |
We've looked burnt out in many games since Nov/Dec. Last weekend was actually an anomaly (hence the hope/optimism pre-Cambridge) IMO.
Even Keogh talks about our 'hard running' and that's what makes us tick. But in doing so have we just run our key players into the ground? Morsy, Burns, Davis, all a shadow of their selves from Aug-Oct. |
Again, I think that's an overreaction. I don't think we've looked burnt out. We got late equalisers at Pompey and Lincoln and kept pushing in those games. Think the injuries we had in October/November mean a few players have played more than would be ideal, but we have a huge squad and capacity to rotate now so I don't think we can really blame tiredness especially. And we stepped the pace up second half yesterday rather than wilting, albeit the game died off once Cambridge started going down injured and taking forever over set pieces. | |
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| My biggest concern... on 11:22 - Feb 5 with 1882 views | portmanking |
| My biggest concern... on 11:17 - Feb 5 by pointofblue |
Which games have we looked burned out in, first half yesterday aside, this season?
Yesterday was arrogance, pure and simple. I’d say, if anything, we have more of a mentality problem than physical. |
Oxford was limp, slow start and never got going.
Wycombe was limp, Pompey was limp, Lincoln was limp, even Peterborough at home was sluggish and we kinda got away with them being a mess under McCann.
We got a fast start against Morecambe and battled well against Burnley for a full 90.
I'd argue the last time we looked like 'us' was away at Exeter when we had our focus, physicality and shape spot on from 1st minute to the last. We just don't look like we've got it in the tank to do that right now. | | | |
| My biggest concern... on 11:28 - Feb 5 with 1843 views | pointofblue |
| My biggest concern... on 11:22 - Feb 5 by portmanking |
Oxford was limp, slow start and never got going.
Wycombe was limp, Pompey was limp, Lincoln was limp, even Peterborough at home was sluggish and we kinda got away with them being a mess under McCann.
We got a fast start against Morecambe and battled well against Burnley for a full 90.
I'd argue the last time we looked like 'us' was away at Exeter when we had our focus, physicality and shape spot on from 1st minute to the last. We just don't look like we've got it in the tank to do that right now. |
Considering the opposition I’d say we looked like us against Burnley. Then again, numerous changes were made for that game. Morecambe is hard to judge because they never turned up and that’s where our issue lies; when a team comes to battle we struggle to fight. | |
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| My biggest concern... on 11:30 - Feb 5 with 1838 views | ibbleobble |
| My biggest concern... on 11:13 - Feb 5 by Herbivore |
We didn't look burnt out last weekend, or a few days previous. Think this is an overreaction to a poor performance yesterday. |
Agreed. Plenty left in the tank. We were just woeful first half and it cost us against a relegation candidate…again. | | | |
| My biggest concern... on 11:32 - Feb 5 with 1820 views | TalkingBlues |
I’ve said it all season and yes, our style of play is highly attritional to the players and no doubt the reason for some of our injury issues, short, medium and long term versions, it’s also one of the plausible excuses for why we concede so many later goals. However, the last few games we haven’t looked “leggy” IMO, I simply don’t believe the manager has fielded the best starting XI’s, or bench, or made the right changes during games. Keogh starting for us in the league ahead of the other fit CB’s, is simply a massive fook up, let alone leaving him as the sole defender when pushing forward, against yet another team that tries to hit us through counter attacks, that’s just suicide. He definitely isn’t getting the best out of Broadhead, or Hirst either, both are being played against their natural traits, which is what made them attractive targets in the first place, he’s trying to make them fit the system he likes, but it doesn’t work, what he needs to do is bend a bit on the shape to accommodate their skill sets, eg why is he asking Hirst to be the hold up man, when Ladapo is clearly far better at it than Hirst, whereas Hirst’s strength is clearly at attacking and getting in behind the back line, we’re back to “square pegs, round holes”.
Also don’t see why Luongo isn’t appearing more, he’s a Championship CM ffs, who looked very strong and capable in the last game where he managed to finally get some minutes. |  |
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| My biggest concern... on 11:34 - Feb 5 with 1800 views | portmanking |
| My biggest concern... on 11:28 - Feb 5 by pointofblue |
Considering the opposition I’d say we looked like us against Burnley. Then again, numerous changes were made for that game. Morecambe is hard to judge because they never turned up and that’s where our issue lies; when a team comes to battle we struggle to fight. |
Yeah I'd say Burnley and Morecambe were signs that we were heading back to that realm of 'complete' performance akin to Exeter away.... but then yesterday was a return to the dirge and frustration of Lincoln away.
There's a distinct lack of mobility and dynamism from the middle of the park and, as the weeks tick by, you can totally understand why Jack (Taylor) is being pursued so eagerly by McKenna.
I'd be very disappointed if there is a mentality issue. Did they think Cambridge would just roll over for us? Promotion requires blood, sweat and tears. We just look all sweated out to me. | | | |
| My biggest concern... on 11:36 - Feb 5 with 1775 views | ArchiRob |
losing tires you out and winning is invigorating |  |
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| My biggest concern... on 12:26 - Feb 5 with 1647 views | billlm |
My biggest problem is close to burnt,
Burns, prima Donna,
Thinks he's better than he is,
Not for the first time he stupidly shoots when a simple squared pass is a tap in,
And crossing, awful to long, off the pitch, or straight to the keeper,
Needs taking out to buck his ideas up,
Jackson wasn't my favourite but offers direct balls into the area,
Which dare I say gives our strikers a chance |  | | |
| My biggest concern... on 12:35 - Feb 5 with 1609 views | Mach_foreignBlue |
| My biggest concern... on 11:13 - Feb 5 by Herbivore |
We didn't look burnt out last weekend, or a few days previous. Think this is an overreaction to a poor performance yesterday. |
It isn't overraction at all. It is a normal reaction as people having been voicing their genuine concerns.
Our form since the Charlton circus hasn't been good and McKenna hasn't been able to rectify it. If in some games his plan A works out well then all is fine. No plan B though. He is stubborn, he firmly trust his ways.
Our PPG since the Charlton game is marginally better than Cook's after 20 games when he got sacked. It's almost identical. Yet it was Cook who was heavily bashed after bad results while McKenna remains free of criticism for some.
Overreaction yesterday? Remember last season and also a draw at Cambridge after which Cook was mercilessly slated? Why different criteria to McKenna then?
Failure to get promoted means that McKenna has to be sacked. He has had a ridiculous backing therefore promotion is a must.
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| My biggest concern... on 12:54 - Feb 5 with 1483 views | Scuzzer |
How can we be burnt out when we have the minimum of two for every position?
Our only problem is that we are too slow in getting the ball forward. Gives the opposition too much time for them to get men behind the ball.
Need to drive through midfield instead of Morsy and Evan's playing crab football. Humphries is a much better option in changing things up. |  |
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| My biggest concern... on 13:16 - Feb 5 with 1389 views | J2BLUE |
Burnt out? With a big squad where we make subs around the hour mark most games? Not buying that. |  |
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| My biggest concern... on 14:36 - Feb 5 with 1188 views | Herbivore |
| My biggest concern... on 12:35 - Feb 5 by Mach_foreignBlue |
It isn't overraction at all. It is a normal reaction as people having been voicing their genuine concerns.
Our form since the Charlton circus hasn't been good and McKenna hasn't been able to rectify it. If in some games his plan A works out well then all is fine. No plan B though. He is stubborn, he firmly trust his ways.
Our PPG since the Charlton game is marginally better than Cook's after 20 games when he got sacked. It's almost identical. Yet it was Cook who was heavily bashed after bad results while McKenna remains free of criticism for some.
Overreaction yesterday? Remember last season and also a draw at Cambridge after which Cook was mercilessly slated? Why different criteria to McKenna then?
Failure to get promoted means that McKenna has to be sacked. He has had a ridiculous backing therefore promotion is a must.
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Yeah, I think you've missed my point. | |
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| My biggest concern... on 15:03 - Feb 5 with 1083 views | Churchman |
| My biggest concern... on 13:16 - Feb 5 by J2BLUE |
Burnt out? With a big squad where we make subs around the hour mark most games? Not buying that. |
Me neither. Faint hearts, hiding behind each other, not taking responsibility maybe. But they’ve more than enough players, made more than enough changes to be the freshest team team in that division. Whatever the reason for our season fading, it isn’t burn out. |  | | |
| My biggest concern... on 15:25 - Feb 5 with 1026 views | braveblue |
| My biggest concern... on 11:15 - Feb 5 by portmanking |
We've looked burnt out in many games since Nov/Dec. Last weekend was actually an anomaly (hence the hope/optimism pre-Cambridge) IMO.
Even Keogh talks about our 'hard running' and that's what makes us tick. But in doing so have we just run our key players into the ground? Morsy, Burns, Davis, all a shadow of their selves from Aug-Oct. |
These are very fit pros. No way are they burnt out. | | | |
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