Calm is needed 09:22 - Feb 5 with 1919 views | pennblue | There is nothing to be gained from a melt down after yesterday. We are 6 points behind auto spots and we are playing Sheffield next Saturday. All that matters is we beat them next week. What is done, is done, that is now history. We can only focus on what is in front of us. We are all happy with the business done in January, and I do think Hirst and Broadhead will start firing, they both have quality. If at the end of the season we fall short, the weaknesses will be rectified. This is now a well run football club, and we will see continual improvement. This is how Brighton, Bournemouth and Brentford all got their success. We have to stay with the team and show some patience. |  |
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Calm is needed on 09:27 - Feb 5 with 1559 views | jasondozzell | Completely agree. Well said. We're 6 points off top with one of the best young managers in the game who is having a really good first full season. The idea that automatic promotion or we've failed us bonkers. Club is making good progress. McKenna is a coach to be proud of. If we fall short in the play offs, I would absolutely back him to get it right next season. |  | |  |
Calm is needed on 09:28 - Feb 5 with 1543 views | FrimleyBlue | TBH, i've no interest in Sheff wed, we won't catch them. What is however more annoying is that we are only 6 behind plymouth who've potentially just lost their GK who stat wise is a massive reason why they've been as good as they have been. But rather than it being just ourselves chasing them, we've got Derby to contend with now, which is incredibly annoying considering they were once 14 points behind us. |  |
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Calm is needed on 09:31 - Feb 5 with 1531 views | Swansea_Blue | It’s been spectacularly flouncetastic. I get that people need to vent, but still. The nature of the hot takes has been something else. Expectations have a lot to do with this. So many were saying we were going to win easily; seems that people can’t handle it when reality doesn’t go their way. |  |
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Calm is needed on 10:18 - Feb 5 with 1443 views | franz_tyson | If over-the-top flounciness is not the done thing - could we also fall short of praising McKenna or at least deflecting criticism away from him. Hes got a job to do.... and it's a tough one .... but I don't think it's too unfair to give him a bit of heat at the moment ....and that heat he could also put to good use and recycle by putting some fire into the bellies of the players. We look really weak mentally at times and maybe a bit less calm is needed and a bit more fire n brimstone is needed.... however unfashionable that is. |  | |  |
Calm is needed on 10:21 - Feb 5 with 1417 views | pointofblue |
Calm is needed on 09:31 - Feb 5 by Swansea_Blue | It’s been spectacularly flouncetastic. I get that people need to vent, but still. The nature of the hot takes has been something else. Expectations have a lot to do with this. So many were saying we were going to win easily; seems that people can’t handle it when reality doesn’t go their way. |
More like we have repeatedly failed expectations since October. Every team drops points, but not to the extent we have over the past three months. ETA - It’s only been three months, not five. Feels like three years. [Post edited 5 Feb 2023 10:35]
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Calm is needed on 10:31 - Feb 5 with 1382 views | Swansea_Blue |
Calm is needed on 10:21 - Feb 5 by pointofblue | More like we have repeatedly failed expectations since October. Every team drops points, but not to the extent we have over the past three months. ETA - It’s only been three months, not five. Feels like three years. [Post edited 5 Feb 2023 10:35]
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There are 19 clubs in this league that have dropped more points than us over that period - https://www.twtd.co.uk/league-tables/competition:league-one/daterange/fromdate:2 (ok, different number of games played so it may be a bit more). |  |
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Calm is needed on 10:33 - Feb 5 with 1364 views | Herbivore |
Calm is needed on 10:21 - Feb 5 by pointofblue | More like we have repeatedly failed expectations since October. Every team drops points, but not to the extent we have over the past three months. ETA - It’s only been three months, not five. Feels like three years. [Post edited 5 Feb 2023 10:35]
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Over the past 5 months? That takes us back to the beginning of September. Our form through September and October was good, it's been since then that we've struggled. Three months is still a long time to be off the boil, but the exaggeration isn't really helpful. |  |
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Calm is needed on 10:35 - Feb 5 with 1354 views | pointofblue |
Calm is needed on 10:33 - Feb 5 by Herbivore | Over the past 5 months? That takes us back to the beginning of September. Our form through September and October was good, it's been since then that we've struggled. Three months is still a long time to be off the boil, but the exaggeration isn't really helpful. |
Apologies, completely lost track of time for some reason. Though it’s felt longer than three months! |  |
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Calm is needed on 10:36 - Feb 5 with 1338 views | FrimleyBlue | Sorry but calm isn't needed. what is needed is the manager to put a rocket up the ar$es of the highly paid players to do the job they've been signed to do. And that's not to consistently fail on delivery what the manager is sending them out to do. The calmness and laid back mentality is imo what is costing us. To long now we've seen everyweek Morsy, now Keogh coming out " there's plenty of time left" forget that, every game is a must win, if you keep thinking oh it's ok plenty more left, then no wonder we get performances like yesturday, because " there's always next week" Burgess a few weeks ago, came out with " we'll be there OR THERE ABOUTS" there abouts? wtf is that. Thereabouts shouldn't even be a thought when sat at the time in the top 2. |  |
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Calm is needed on 10:38 - Feb 5 with 1330 views | Swansea_Blue |
Calm is needed on 10:35 - Feb 5 by pointofblue | Apologies, completely lost track of time for some reason. Though it’s felt longer than three months! |
Last 8 games is our lowest form spell. We’re 13th over that spell, which isn’t great granted. |  |
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Calm is needed on 10:40 - Feb 5 with 1310 views | Herbivore |
Calm is needed on 10:38 - Feb 5 by Swansea_Blue | Last 8 games is our lowest form spell. We’re 13th over that spell, which isn’t great granted. |
Post Charlton we've been going at 1.5 points a game over 12 games. Prior to that we were going at over 2 points a game. It could be coincidence but it feels like that mad injury time collective brain fart has really impacted our season more than we could have anticipated at the time. |  |
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Calm is needed on 10:40 - Feb 5 with 1312 views | Swansea_Blue |
Calm is needed on 10:36 - Feb 5 by FrimleyBlue | Sorry but calm isn't needed. what is needed is the manager to put a rocket up the ar$es of the highly paid players to do the job they've been signed to do. And that's not to consistently fail on delivery what the manager is sending them out to do. The calmness and laid back mentality is imo what is costing us. To long now we've seen everyweek Morsy, now Keogh coming out " there's plenty of time left" forget that, every game is a must win, if you keep thinking oh it's ok plenty more left, then no wonder we get performances like yesturday, because " there's always next week" Burgess a few weeks ago, came out with " we'll be there OR THERE ABOUTS" there abouts? wtf is that. Thereabouts shouldn't even be a thought when sat at the time in the top 2. |
The OP is obviously talking about the melts in the fanbase, not the team. I’d imagine the team had a rocket at half time yesterday. |  |
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Calm is needed on 10:41 - Feb 5 with 1300 views | pennblue |
Calm is needed on 10:38 - Feb 5 by Swansea_Blue | Last 8 games is our lowest form spell. We’re 13th over that spell, which isn’t great granted. |
It is not great form, but things can change quickly in football too. The Abbey just does not suit our style of play at all. It is ideal for long balls / corner kicks / set pieces / long throws imo. But we are just not set up to play like that. If that is our undoing at the end of the season, then so be it, but we can't really radically change style at this point of the season. If we do end up in the play offs, and in the final at Wembley, you would like to think our style of play is ideal. |  |
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Calm is needed on 10:43 - Feb 5 with 1279 views | Swansea_Blue |
Calm is needed on 10:41 - Feb 5 by pennblue | It is not great form, but things can change quickly in football too. The Abbey just does not suit our style of play at all. It is ideal for long balls / corner kicks / set pieces / long throws imo. But we are just not set up to play like that. If that is our undoing at the end of the season, then so be it, but we can't really radically change style at this point of the season. If we do end up in the play offs, and in the final at Wembley, you would like to think our style of play is ideal. |
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Calm is needed on 10:43 - Feb 5 with 1278 views | FrimleyBlue |
Calm is needed on 10:41 - Feb 5 by pennblue | It is not great form, but things can change quickly in football too. The Abbey just does not suit our style of play at all. It is ideal for long balls / corner kicks / set pieces / long throws imo. But we are just not set up to play like that. If that is our undoing at the end of the season, then so be it, but we can't really radically change style at this point of the season. If we do end up in the play offs, and in the final at Wembley, you would like to think our style of play is ideal. |
We have one of the best stats when it comes to corners Clarke also showed out of nowhere he has an incredible long throw We subbed both off as a tactical move at HT. |  |
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Concern is justified… some poor results on 10:44 - Feb 5 with 1262 views | unstableblue | Yesterday the team didn’t turn up for a must win game. But we’ve also had Oxford, morecambe and Burnley excellent performances. We’re a bit wobbly at the moment and the manager is learning how to manage a downturn for the first time. It’s a player performance issue as Andy Warrens rating highlight. Our fans are great in terms of turnout and numbers… I mean a beamback against Cambridge with a couple of thousand. But we’re like the club/team… we have a glass jaw and a real lack of confidence (justified by the last decade)… but as you a melt down is going to get us nowhere… and we need to boost the team against Weds… not make them more nervous |  |
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Concern is justified… some poor results on 10:47 - Feb 5 with 1220 views | Swansea_Blue |
Concern is justified… some poor results on 10:44 - Feb 5 by unstableblue | Yesterday the team didn’t turn up for a must win game. But we’ve also had Oxford, morecambe and Burnley excellent performances. We’re a bit wobbly at the moment and the manager is learning how to manage a downturn for the first time. It’s a player performance issue as Andy Warrens rating highlight. Our fans are great in terms of turnout and numbers… I mean a beamback against Cambridge with a couple of thousand. But we’re like the club/team… we have a glass jaw and a real lack of confidence (justified by the last decade)… but as you a melt down is going to get us nowhere… and we need to boost the team against Weds… not make them more nervous |
“But we’re like the club/team… we have a glass jaw”. Spot on. It’s also only a minority who are panicking (albeit some are VERY vocal about it, not mentioning any names!). Generally the support is excellent. PR a bit quiet given the numbers, but it always has been. |  |
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Calm is needed on 10:48 - Feb 5 with 1208 views | BlueBadger |
Calm is needed on 09:27 - Feb 5 by jasondozzell | Completely agree. Well said. We're 6 points off top with one of the best young managers in the game who is having a really good first full season. The idea that automatic promotion or we've failed us bonkers. Club is making good progress. McKenna is a coach to be proud of. If we fall short in the play offs, I would absolutely back him to get it right next season. |
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Concern is justified… some poor results on 10:50 - Feb 5 with 1191 views | pointofblue |
Concern is justified… some poor results on 10:47 - Feb 5 by Swansea_Blue | “But we’re like the club/team… we have a glass jaw”. Spot on. It’s also only a minority who are panicking (albeit some are VERY vocal about it, not mentioning any names!). Generally the support is excellent. PR a bit quiet given the numbers, but it always has been. |
Portman Road has been quiet since the development of the North Stand. Even in the excitement of the Royle years - someone who constantly had us punching above our weight - the crowd sounded flat compared to Burley’s (another one) time. |  |
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Calm is needed on 11:10 - Feb 5 with 1128 views | Herbivore |
Calm is needed on 10:43 - Feb 5 by FrimleyBlue | We have one of the best stats when it comes to corners Clarke also showed out of nowhere he has an incredible long throw We subbed both off as a tactical move at HT. |
And played much better second half, getting the equaliser and having chances to win the game. The changes at half time worked in terms of improving us. |  |
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Calm is needed on 11:13 - Feb 5 with 1113 views | FrimleyBlue |
Calm is needed on 11:10 - Feb 5 by Herbivore | And played much better second half, getting the equaliser and having chances to win the game. The changes at half time worked in terms of improving us. |
much better, really? we did indeed score, but the 2nd half was no better than the first overall. |  |
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Calm is needed on 11:14 - Feb 5 with 1100 views | Herbivore |
Calm is needed on 11:13 - Feb 5 by FrimleyBlue | much better, really? we did indeed score, but the 2nd half was no better than the first overall. |
Hot take nonsense. |  |
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Concern is justified… some poor results on 11:17 - Feb 5 with 1090 views | pennblue |
Concern is justified… some poor results on 10:44 - Feb 5 by unstableblue | Yesterday the team didn’t turn up for a must win game. But we’ve also had Oxford, morecambe and Burnley excellent performances. We’re a bit wobbly at the moment and the manager is learning how to manage a downturn for the first time. It’s a player performance issue as Andy Warrens rating highlight. Our fans are great in terms of turnout and numbers… I mean a beamback against Cambridge with a couple of thousand. But we’re like the club/team… we have a glass jaw and a real lack of confidence (justified by the last decade)… but as you a melt down is going to get us nowhere… and we need to boost the team against Weds… not make them more nervous |
> we need to boost the team against Weds… not make them more nervous Yes this ^^^^^ We need to turn Portman road into a very unpleasant place to be next weekend, just as they did to us. We should disrupt their team preparation as much as we can. |  |
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Calm is needed on 11:17 - Feb 5 with 1087 views | LankHenners |
Calm is needed on 10:40 - Feb 5 by Herbivore | Post Charlton we've been going at 1.5 points a game over 12 games. Prior to that we were going at over 2 points a game. It could be coincidence but it feels like that mad injury time collective brain fart has really impacted our season more than we could have anticipated at the time. |
I've been wrestling with that game in my head for a while - I know some people are keen to draw a straight line between that and our form since but I can't fully get behind that theory as it seems too easy. Having said that, being pegged back to 2-2 having been 2-0 up then fighting on to go 4-2 up again (very, very) late on probably reaffirms the belief that we're never done and can always get the win by hook or by crook. Then to let that lead slip away so easily and so quickly probably has the opposite effect (not to mention being soul-crushing) and it's not hard to see how that's quite a big psychological barrier to get over, especially as we've had games since where we've had to either really push for a winner and not found it or have conceded an equaliser with almost the last kick (even allowing for the fact they were deflected and had an element of misfortune). In a game like Morecambe where we go ahead so early then get a second not long after we look like a weight's been lifted and we really can boss things. Likewise Rotherham - fair enough they probably gave us more space than we'd normally get in League 1 but we played with freedom and and without fear whereas in the League games you can almost sense there's a tension in all the players that they can't shake. If we're in front we don't believe we can hold on and if we need a goal we don't believe we can get it, particularly if we have our momentum checked and we struggled to get any tempo going. |  |
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