| What are you realistic expectations for the next 3 years? 13:55 - Sep 22 with 4902 views | LegendofthePhoenix |
Probably 99% of us would say that this season everything is going as well as it possibly could. So aside from dreaming, what do you reckon is most likely in store for us over the next 3 years? Will we come back down to earth with a bump and fail to get promoted yet again? Will we get back to back promotions? Somewhere in between?
My guess is auto promotion this season, then further strengthening and a just about top half finish in the Championship in 23/24. Then with further strengthening, a serious promotion push in 24/25.
Lose the next two and it all looks horribly familiar. Win them, it looks very exciting. |  |
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| What are you realistic expectations for the next 3 years? on 14:05 - Sep 22 with 3521 views | Kieran_Knows |
I think we'll quite comfortably win the league this season. Having watched us and the dross we've come up against, I don't think anybody gets close to us this season.
A year of consolidating in the Championship next season. I think we'd probably use that period to further improve the infrastructure behind the scenes. Probably in regards to scouting, analysis ... along those lines. Of course, maybe 3-4 additions to further improve the squad.
Then year after that, I suspect we'll see us maybe 'go for it' with regards to our recruiting (especially if we've got our scouting etc ... a few foreign imports in that regard, Ashton had success with signings from France with Bristol City). Which in turn might see us finish around the play-offs. |  |
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| What are you realistic expectations for the next 3 years? on 14:08 - Sep 22 with 3514 views | Illinoisblue |
Not looking any further than going up automatically this season. A narrow/unjust/heartbreaking defeat in the playoffs would be a hammer blow. Automatic or bust. |  |
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| What are you realistic expectations for the next 3 years? on 14:41 - Sep 22 with 3409 views | Mookamoo |
Automatic promotion this year.
Good solid 9th the following year.
McKenna gets the Crystal Palace job and takes Woolfenden with him for £15 million. Finish 14th. |  | | |
| What are you realistic expectations for the next 3 years? on 14:43 - Sep 22 with 3393 views | eastangliaisblue |
League 1 Champions.
Championship Champions.
Champions League qualification.
Premier League Champions in 5 years. |  | | |
| What are you realistic expectations for the next 3 years? on 14:52 - Sep 22 with 3346 views | Coastalblue |
Whilst I think we're far from the finished article, even at this level I do think we'll finally go up this year.
Next season I think we could struggle, I don't think we'll come back down or look likely to but can foresee a bottom half finish.
After that would expect us to be troubling the top 6 in the league above, if you can do that then you have every chance. |  |
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| What are you realistic expectations for the next 3 years? on 14:59 - Sep 22 with 3317 views | BiGDonnie |
Anything less than back to back championships and its McKenna out for me! |  |
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| What are you realistic expectations for the next 3 years? on 15:01 - Sep 22 with 3305 views | itfcjoe |
Get up from this league
Stay up relatively comfortably
Look to push on so that we are going for a top 6 place in the Championship
Basically back to where McCarthy had us from 2013-2016 but looking to build on that and progress rather than make the managers job harder every year by stripping back from that point |  |
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| What are you realistic expectations for the next 3 years? on 15:18 - Sep 22 with 3204 views | jayessess |
| What are you realistic expectations for the next 3 years? on 14:05 - Sep 22 by Kieran_Knows |
I think we'll quite comfortably win the league this season. Having watched us and the dross we've come up against, I don't think anybody gets close to us this season.
A year of consolidating in the Championship next season. I think we'd probably use that period to further improve the infrastructure behind the scenes. Probably in regards to scouting, analysis ... along those lines. Of course, maybe 3-4 additions to further improve the squad.
Then year after that, I suspect we'll see us maybe 'go for it' with regards to our recruiting (especially if we've got our scouting etc ... a few foreign imports in that regard, Ashton had success with signings from France with Bristol City). Which in turn might see us finish around the play-offs. |
My realistic expectations of the club are always that we perform roughly in line with our budget, allowing for a little bit of slack of half a dozen league positions or so whenever we have a serious turnover of playing and management staff.
This season that means 1st or 2nd. Next season that'll mean lower mid-table, season after top 10. |  |
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| What are you realistic expectations for the next 3 years? on 15:23 - Sep 22 with 3180 views | blueasfook |
I would like to just see us get out this league for now. Establish ourselves in the Championship and then push on from there. Just hope this is our last season in League One. |  |
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| What are you realistic expectations for the next 3 years? on 15:45 - Sep 22 with 3118 views | jayessess |
Worth noting, should we return to the Championship for 2023-24 there wouldn't be very many teams in the division who are competitive with us financially.
20 of 24 Championship teams currently have smaller average attendances. 11 of those teams, it's less than 2/3rds of ours.
On fan-derived revenue, there's basically 2 teams (Sunderland, Sheffield United) that would have any advantage at all. You'd also presume that GC20 would top that up with whatever maximum additional investment is permitted.
Obviously the parachute teams still blow you out of the water, but it shouldn't be like 2017-18 where we had a bottom 6 budget. [Post edited 22 Sep 2022 15:47]
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| What are you realistic expectations for the next 3 years? on 15:47 - Sep 22 with 3112 views | tractordownsouth |
Bottom half Championship, with McKenna having been poached. |  |
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| What are you realistic expectations for the next 3 years? on 16:04 - Sep 22 with 3020 views | Metal_Hacker |
This Season - Auto Promotion
Next Season - Consolidate and Maintain Above Mid-Table Position & Prepare for Next Season
Season After - Looking to Hit Top Six
Somewhere in between Keno and Hoppy elope again  |  |
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| What are you realistic expectations for the next 3 years? on 16:04 - Sep 22 with 3021 views | jeera |
| What are you realistic expectations for the next 3 years? on 15:47 - Sep 22 by tractordownsouth |
Bottom half Championship, with McKenna having been poached. |
Not the most positive post. |  |
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| What are you realistic expectations for the next 3 years? on 16:14 - Sep 22 with 2988 views | SomethingBlue |
Get up — consolidate — start nibbling around play-off zone. That'd do for me by the end of 2024-25.
But we have to get up this year, really have to. If we do, I go against all the above by saying I really do think all bets will be off once we're in the Champ. |  |
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| What are you realistic expectations for the next 3 years? on 16:19 - Sep 22 with 2967 views | tractordownsouth |
| What are you realistic expectations for the next 3 years? on 16:04 - Sep 22 by jeera |
Not the most positive post. |
Maybe not, but as someone who started following Town in 2005 just the idea of us being promoted is unknown territory to me. | |
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| What are you realistic expectations for the next 3 years? on 16:23 - Sep 22 with 2941 views | jeera |
| What are you realistic expectations for the next 3 years? on 16:19 - Sep 22 by tractordownsouth |
Maybe not, but as someone who started following Town in 2005 just the idea of us being promoted is unknown territory to me. |
Fair play.
I sincerely hope McKenna will see an opportunity to become an all-time hero with Town, sticking with us, and us with him, through times thick and thin...
Your assessment is more realistic I know whereas mine is based on romantic fantasy. | |
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| What are you realistic expectations for the next 3 years? on 16:25 - Sep 22 with 2926 views | Radlett_blue |
| What are you realistic expectations for the next 3 years? on 14:52 - Sep 22 by Coastalblue |
Whilst I think we're far from the finished article, even at this level I do think we'll finally go up this year.
Next season I think we could struggle, I don't think we'll come back down or look likely to but can foresee a bottom half finish.
After that would expect us to be troubling the top 6 in the league above, if you can do that then you have every chance. |
Indeed, if we do go up, consolidating in lower mid table would be a good outcome next season as the gap to the Championship is bigger than many of us seem to think. I also hope we wouldn't want to turn the squad inside-out. After that one season of consolidation, then it's up to the owners if the want to risk the large sums they would need to invest to make promotion a realistic target. |  |
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| What are you realistic expectations for the next 3 years? on 16:37 - Sep 22 with 2817 views | jayessess |
| What are you realistic expectations for the next 3 years? on 16:14 - Sep 22 by SomethingBlue |
Get up — consolidate — start nibbling around play-off zone. That'd do for me by the end of 2024-25.
But we have to get up this year, really have to. If we do, I go against all the above by saying I really do think all bets will be off once we're in the Champ. |
It is harder definitely to get promoted from League One than it is to stay in the Championship and take out the parachute teams are everything is such fine margins.
Forest and Huddersfield went from relegation candidates to promotion contenders without doing much more than appointing a good manager and finding some high quality loan players. Huddersfield have now flipped back to relegation candidates. Last season's promoted clubs are currently 5th, 8th and 12th. Sunderland might well be good value for back to back promotions... | |
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| What are you realistic expectations for the next 3 years? on 17:01 - Sep 22 with 2769 views | Kropotkin123 |
As a supporter, I try to refrain from expecting things. With that said, given our start and how we have played so far, I would be disappointed if we don't go up automatically this season.
I think the following season depends on how much we develop our squad. Ladapo does a lot well, but I don't see him leading the line in a competitive Championship side. I think we need someone with better control leading the line. I also think that Edmundson, from how we play and his passing so far, wouldn't cut it in the Championship, for a competitive team. I think the ceiling is currently mid table, without the "spine" being upgraded.
Third season, whatever lessons we learn in the first Championship season, you'd hope we can push on. So if we survive the drop, then reform into a mid-table side. If we finish mid-table, then reform into a playoff contender. If we are play-off contenders, then the playoffs.
Hopes, not expectations though.
Having written that, I've just checked the Championship table. Sunderland are 5th, Rotherham are 8th, and Wigan are 12th. So maybe mid table to playoffs is a realistic target. Putting it another way, I think Sheff Wed and Portsmouth are capable of mid-table and above next season, and I think we are equally capable. |  |
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| What are you realistic expectations for the next 3 years? on 17:03 - Sep 22 with 2774 views | Radlett_blue |
| What are you realistic expectations for the next 3 years? on 17:01 - Sep 22 by Kropotkin123 |
As a supporter, I try to refrain from expecting things. With that said, given our start and how we have played so far, I would be disappointed if we don't go up automatically this season.
I think the following season depends on how much we develop our squad. Ladapo does a lot well, but I don't see him leading the line in a competitive Championship side. I think we need someone with better control leading the line. I also think that Edmundson, from how we play and his passing so far, wouldn't cut it in the Championship, for a competitive team. I think the ceiling is currently mid table, without the "spine" being upgraded.
Third season, whatever lessons we learn in the first Championship season, you'd hope we can push on. So if we survive the drop, then reform into a mid-table side. If we finish mid-table, then reform into a playoff contender. If we are play-off contenders, then the playoffs.
Hopes, not expectations though.
Having written that, I've just checked the Championship table. Sunderland are 5th, Rotherham are 8th, and Wigan are 12th. So maybe mid table to playoffs is a realistic target. Putting it another way, I think Sheff Wed and Portsmouth are capable of mid-table and above next season, and I think we are equally capable. |
It's early days & in the past 5 seasons, none of the clubs promoted to the Championship have finished in the top half & a large proportion have been relegated immediately. | |
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| What are you realistic expectations for the next 3 years? on 17:07 - Sep 22 with 2749 views | dirtyboy |
There's a long long way to go and whilst we do look like a quality outfit, I know what it's like being an ITFC supporter, so with that in mind...
Squeeky bum promotion this season. Will go to last game and we'll edge out Derby and take second on the last day after much twoing and froing for the final month.
Year two , we survive in the Championship, just about midtable and allow McKenna a season to work out the competition and what players they need after only getting in a few carefully considered additions, but still playing good football and keeping the fans onside with reiterating "trust the process", but just maybe found wanting in a few sterner tests against experienced teams/managers.
Off the pitch, we see a new bit of green stuff, improved facilities, plans submitted for a hotel/casino and entertainment complex next to the ground and to compliment it, a 50m Olympic pool and sport complex integrated seamlessly with SCC and ITFC collaborations to enhance and modernise the entire Portman Road area.
Year number 3, GC also trust the process and what McKenna says and does and make a further investment into the squad for a considered push.
Come January, the team is doing well and there's a massive signing that takes us into real contention for top 6, but Humphreys gets signed by Arsenal for £15m and a call up to the England squad that summer topping up the clause by a further £3m.
Ground is broken on the new hotel MGM Grand Portman, Fabio Wardley signs a contract to make his first HW title defence there when it opens in..
Year 4... where things get really interesting, but that's outside of the OP's question, so i'll stop there. |  | | |
| What are you realistic expectations for the next 3 years? on 17:35 - Sep 22 with 2669 views | FrimleyBlue |
Back to back promotions. Followed by an immediate relegation from Prem after KM gets poached by brighton. |  |
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| What are you realistic expectations for the next 3 years? on 17:49 - Sep 22 with 2620 views | jayessess |
| What are you realistic expectations for the next 3 years? on 17:03 - Sep 22 by Radlett_blue |
It's early days & in the past 5 seasons, none of the clubs promoted to the Championship have finished in the top half & a large proportion have been relegated immediately. |
Don't think 5 of 15 is that large a proportion, is it?
Mostly clubs that got promoted knowing that their budget likely wouldn't cut it at the level above too - Rotherham (twice), Wycombe, Peterborough. Charlton the only outlier really. [Post edited 22 Sep 2022 17:54]
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| What are you realistic expectations for the next 3 years? on 17:52 - Sep 22 with 2608 views | GlasgowBlue |
Automatic promotion this season.
Mid table/ lower half of the Championship next season.
Promotion to the Premier League, season 3.
K Mac then goes to a Champions League team with our blessing. |  |
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| What are you realistic expectations for the next 3 years? on 17:54 - Sep 22 with 2593 views | Radlett_blue |
| What are you realistic expectations for the next 3 years? on 17:49 - Sep 22 by jayessess |
Don't think 5 of 15 is that large a proportion, is it?
Mostly clubs that got promoted knowing that their budget likely wouldn't cut it at the level above too - Rotherham (twice), Wycombe, Peterborough. Charlton the only outlier really. [Post edited 22 Sep 2022 17:54]
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Sorry, I will revise my statement to just the last 4 seasons. That makes 5 out of 12 clubs which is 42%. | |
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