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I do not think there is a chance at this stage he would go. I would expect if Lennon was in the race, that job would be ideal for him, given his age and experience.
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McKenna to Ireland on 13:52 - Sep 13 with 3436 views
McKenna to Ireland on 13:52 - Sep 13 by Illinoisblue
He’s far too young, talented and ambitious to waste his time with the Rep of Ireland.
Is managing Ireland a waste? They have historically done okay at international level and had some great talents over the years, and have some great players with potential now which would gain a lot from working with McKenna you would think. Sure they may not win a World Cup, but if Greece and Denmark can win the Euros, Ireland certainly can!
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McKenna to Ireland on 14:02 - Sep 13 with 3369 views
McKenna to Ireland on 14:32 - Sep 13 by BlueBadger
Even Frimmers has mostly given up on the endless ludicrous negative hot takes.
I wonder what the next TWTD trend is gonna be?
It was reported in one of the nationals over the weekend that KMc is on the FAI's list of potential recruits should they sack their current manager, as he should be, so not such a hot take. I very much doubt he'd go or even be offered it but far from a ludicrous story.
I think you should either amend the title of this thread to 'Newspaper claims McKenna linked to Republic of Ireland job' or at least put a question mark after the three words as they stand.
Is managing Ireland a waste? They have historically done okay at international level and had some great talents over the years, and have some great players with potential now which would gain a lot from working with McKenna you would think. Sure they may not win a World Cup, but if Greece and Denmark can win the Euros, Ireland certainly can!
The first two words of that article should surely be 'Northern Irish´, not 'Northern Ireland'. The world's going to hell in a handcart.
I'm undecided. You'd refer to, for example, Jason Dozzell and Richard Wright as 'Suffolk coaches', so although reading awkwardly, it's not actually wrong.
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McKenna to Ireland on 16:22 - Sep 13 with 2624 views
I'm undecided. You'd refer to, for example, Jason Dozzell and Richard Wright as 'Suffolk coaches', so although reading awkwardly, it's not actually wrong.
To me the difference is very clear. If there is an adjective available that is different from the noun, then it makes a clear distinction.
Sven-Göran Eriksson was an England manager, but not an English one. Conor Chaplin is an English footballer, but not (yet!) an England one. Walton is a Cornish footballer, but he's not (as far as I know) a Cornwall footballer. (He might have been a Cornwall U14 footballer or some-such. Leif Davis is a Geordie footballer, but not a Newcastle footballer. etc etc
There is no adjective available for Suffolk that is not the same as the noun. Without that distinction, Suffolk must refer to either which team he plays for or where he was playing. 'Suffolk cricketer stung by bees while fielding' must refer to someone playing cricket in Suffolk or representing Suffolk (wherever). You can't call a bloke from Lowestoft playing village cricket in Lancashire a 'Suffolk cricketer'.
For that matter, to my mind it doesn't make sense to call a plumber from Suffolk living in Liverpool a Suffolk plumber, (in the way that you could call someone a Glaswegian plumber, a Brummie plumber, a Cornish plumber, a Northern Irish plumber etc.) You'd have to call him a plumber from Suffolk. So for me Jason Dozell can only be 'a Suffolk football coach' if he's coaching a county team or if he's coaching in the county. Elsewhere he'd have to be Suffolk-born, Suffolk-raised, Suffolk-based or something like that, just like Leif Davis is a Newcastle-born or Newcastle-raised footballer.
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McKenna to Ireland on 16:28 - Sep 13 with 2596 views
To me the difference is very clear. If there is an adjective available that is different from the noun, then it makes a clear distinction.
Sven-Göran Eriksson was an England manager, but not an English one. Conor Chaplin is an English footballer, but not (yet!) an England one. Walton is a Cornish footballer, but he's not (as far as I know) a Cornwall footballer. (He might have been a Cornwall U14 footballer or some-such. Leif Davis is a Geordie footballer, but not a Newcastle footballer. etc etc
There is no adjective available for Suffolk that is not the same as the noun. Without that distinction, Suffolk must refer to either which team he plays for or where he was playing. 'Suffolk cricketer stung by bees while fielding' must refer to someone playing cricket in Suffolk or representing Suffolk (wherever). You can't call a bloke from Lowestoft playing village cricket in Lancashire a 'Suffolk cricketer'.
For that matter, to my mind it doesn't make sense to call a plumber from Suffolk living in Liverpool a Suffolk plumber, (in the way that you could call someone a Glaswegian plumber, a Brummie plumber, a Cornish plumber, a Northern Irish plumber etc.) You'd have to call him a plumber from Suffolk. So for me Jason Dozell can only be 'a Suffolk football coach' if he's coaching a county team or if he's coaching in the county. Elsewhere he'd have to be Suffolk-born, Suffolk-raised, Suffolk-based or something like that, just like Leif Davis is a Newcastle-born or Newcastle-raised footballer.
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Suffolkian would be better, I agree, but Suffolk is fine.
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McKenna to Ireland on 16:41 - Sep 13 with 2552 views
Suffolkian would be better, I agree, but Suffolk is fine.
I'm coming round to your point of view somewhat (though I still think McKenna is NOT a Northern Ireland football manager.!)
I think if I heard ' a Suffolk motorist has been injured after a collision with a bollard' I'd first assume the accident was in Suffolk. But then I'd also accept 'a Suffolk motorist has been injured in an accident in Kent' .
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McKenna to Ireland on 16:49 - Sep 13 with 2515 views
The first two words of that article should surely be 'Northern Irish´, not 'Northern Ireland'. The world's going to hell in a handcart.
It's a bit more delicate over there, if you take Lennon for example, although he played for Northern Ireland, he would very much consider himself Irish first and foremost, and therefore to play it safe, saying Northern Ireland isn't going to cause any upset because it is correct.
I don't know what McKenna would first, and foremostly identify himself as, I believe he supports Ireland (as in the south) but I could be wrong. I think I read somewhere that his house was divided between Ireland and England for internationals as his wife is English.
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McKenna to Ireland on 16:50 - Sep 13 with 2510 views
The first two words of that article should surely be 'Northern Irish´, not 'Northern Ireland'. The world's going to hell in a handcart.
I stand to be corrected but I’m pretty sure if you live in .Northern Ireland, you are going to describe yourself as either Irish or British, not northern Irish.
McKenna to Ireland on 16:50 - Sep 13 by Pinewoodblue
I stand to be corrected but I’m pretty sure if you live in .Northern Ireland, you are going to describe yourself as either Irish or British, not northern Irish.
It's a bit more delicate over there, if you take Lennon for example, although he played for Northern Ireland, he would very much consider himself Irish first and foremost, and therefore to play it safe, saying Northern Ireland isn't going to cause any upset because it is correct.
I don't know what McKenna would first, and foremostly identify himself as, I believe he supports Ireland (as in the south) but I could be wrong. I think I read somewhere that his house was divided between Ireland and England for internationals as his wife is English.
What his or anyone else's attitude is to being called Northern Irish is not the point I was trying to make at all.
I'm just saying that there is no way he is a Northern Ireland coach or manager in exactly the same way as Sean Dyche is not an England football manager and Jürgen Klopp is not a Germany manager.
I mean I do understand that 'Northern Irish' is a politically-charged term, - but so is 'Northern Ireland'; many people from the six counties would rather refer to themselves as 'being from the North of Ireland', or from Ulster.
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McKenna to Ireland on 19:47 - Sep 13 with 2244 views
McKenna to Ireland on 16:50 - Sep 13 by Pinewoodblue
I stand to be corrected but I’m pretty sure if you live in .Northern Ireland, you are going to describe yourself as either Irish or British, not northern Irish.
In my experience people from the North tend to say they are 'from the North' ( usually this is pretty obvious from the accent, though some Donegal accents quite similar). If there trying to be more specific then it's usually the area they are from rather then Irish or British. I'm from Ballymena, or I'm from West Belfast for example
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McKenna to Ireland on 19:57 - Sep 13 with 2217 views
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