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The hladky handball.. 10:24 - Feb 4 with 2625 viewsFrimleyBlue

Just thinking about it..

Does it not count as a handball because he actually used his foot first. So then it becomes a 2nd phase of play?

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The hladky handball.. on 10:26 - Feb 4 with 2588 viewsJakeITFC

Nope, should have been an indirect free-kick to Preston on the edge of the 6-yard box (but no card).
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The hladky handball.. on 10:30 - Feb 4 with 2540 viewsFrimleyBlue

The hladky handball.. on 10:26 - Feb 4 by JakeITFC

Nope, should have been an indirect free-kick to Preston on the edge of the 6-yard box (but no card).


But why tho. He's recieved the back pass and twice touched the ball with his foot.. so he's technically done the correct thing and used his foot..
Surely the hand bit is a different phase?
[Post edited 4 Feb 2024 10:31]

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The hladky handball.. on 10:31 - Feb 4 with 2506 viewsJakeITFC

The hladky handball.. on 10:30 - Feb 4 by FrimleyBlue

But why tho. He's recieved the back pass and twice touched the ball with his foot.. so he's technically done the correct thing and used his foot..
Surely the hand bit is a different phase?
[Post edited 4 Feb 2024 10:31]


That’s not how it works, otherwise keepers could just flick all back passes up and catch them.
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The hladky handball.. on 10:33 - Feb 4 with 2486 viewscatch74

I think the referee got it right. If the keeper try’s to kick the ball to clear and misses, he can then pick it up. About 1:30 on here.

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The hladky handball.. on 10:33 - Feb 4 with 2472 viewsFrimleyBlue

The hladky handball.. on 10:31 - Feb 4 by JakeITFC

That’s not how it works, otherwise keepers could just flick all back passes up and catch them.


Ah good point didn't think of that.

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The hladky handball.. on 10:35 - Feb 4 with 2459 viewsnorfsufblue

The hladky handball.. on 10:30 - Feb 4 by FrimleyBlue

But why tho. He's recieved the back pass and twice touched the ball with his foot.. so he's technically done the correct thing and used his foot..
Surely the hand bit is a different phase?
[Post edited 4 Feb 2024 10:31]


H might have got away with it because the ref thought the Preston guy had touched it though... he didn't but he didn't see the foul in the first goal so his eyesight might not be up to much,😉🤣
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The hladky handball.. on 10:41 - Feb 4 with 2405 viewsThe_Flashing_Smile

The hladky handball.. on 10:33 - Feb 4 by FrimleyBlue

Ah good point didn't think of that.



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The hladky handball.. on 11:05 - Feb 4 with 2320 viewsBasuco

The hladky handball.. on 10:35 - Feb 4 by norfsufblue

H might have got away with it because the ref thought the Preston guy had touched it though... he didn't but he didn't see the foul in the first goal so his eyesight might not be up to much,😉🤣


The assistant referees not being able to see when the ball obviously went of play was a shock as well.
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The hladky handball.. on 11:40 - Feb 4 with 2208 viewsEastboundSplinter

The hladky handball.. on 10:33 - Feb 4 by catch74

I think the referee got it right. If the keeper try’s to kick the ball to clear and misses, he can then pick it up. About 1:30 on here.


That’s only if the keeper tries to kick the ball to a team mate, Hladky was trying to turn with the ball.

It should have been an IFK and red card for DOGSO.
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The hladky handball.. on 11:45 - Feb 4 with 2181 viewsEastTownBlue

The hladky handball.. on 11:40 - Feb 4 by EastboundSplinter

That’s only if the keeper tries to kick the ball to a team mate, Hladky was trying to turn with the ball.

It should have been an IFK and red card for DOGSO.


Indirect free kick only.

"If the goalkeeper handles the ball inside their penalty area when not permitted to do so, an indirect free kick is awarded but there is no disciplinary sanction."
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The hladky handball.. on 11:49 - Feb 4 with 2153 viewsAlberto_the_frog

2nd phase when he clears it or attempts to. He touched it with his foot, but not in at attempt to clear it - he seemed to be trying to claw it back to himself. You are not, for instance, allowed to trap the ball with a foot then pick it up.
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The hladky handball.. on 11:54 - Feb 4 with 2131 viewsEastboundSplinter

The hladky handball.. on 11:45 - Feb 4 by EastTownBlue

Indirect free kick only.

"If the goalkeeper handles the ball inside their penalty area when not permitted to do so, an indirect free kick is awarded but there is no disciplinary sanction."


Looks like you’re correct but I think a caution for unsporting behaviour would be expected in that case.
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The hladky handball.. on 11:57 - Feb 4 with 2112 viewstonybied

The hladky handball.. on 11:54 - Feb 4 by EastboundSplinter

Looks like you’re correct but I think a caution for unsporting behaviour would be expected in that case.


Why would it be expected when the rules explicitly state there should been no disciplinary action taken.
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The hladky handball.. on 11:59 - Feb 4 with 2104 viewsEastboundSplinter

The hladky handball.. on 11:57 - Feb 4 by tonybied

Why would it be expected when the rules explicitly state there should been no disciplinary action taken.


That’s stated only in the case of a handball. DOGSO has a different definition which states no red card but not no sanction. It’s hard to deny that it was unsporting.
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The hladky handball.. on 12:15 - Feb 4 with 2022 viewstonybied

The hladky handball.. on 11:59 - Feb 4 by EastboundSplinter

That’s stated only in the case of a handball. DOGSO has a different definition which states no red card but not no sanction. It’s hard to deny that it was unsporting.


This was a handled backpass for which there is a specific law that doesn't define if it denys a goal scoring opportunity or not though. The law for handled backpasses states no disciplinary action is to be taken, not it's at the referees discretion.
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The hladky handball.. on 13:06 - Feb 4 with 1902 viewsVegtablue

The hladky handball.. on 12:15 - Feb 4 by tonybied

This was a handled backpass for which there is a specific law that doesn't define if it denys a goal scoring opportunity or not though. The law for handled backpasses states no disciplinary action is to be taken, not it's at the referees discretion.


Just to confirm, the full quote outlines the only circumstance where a goalkeeper may face disciplinary action for handling the ball inside their box.

"If the goalkeeper handles the ball inside their penalty area when not permitted to do so, an indirect free kick is awarded but there is no disciplinary sanction. However, if the offence is playing the ball a second time (with or without the hand/arm) after a restart before it touches another player, the goalkeeper must be sanctioned if the offence stops a promising attack or denies an opponent or the opposing team a goal or an obvious goal-scoring opportunity."

Most back-pass infringements are desperate attempts to protect the goal after an error. Just forgetfully picking it up may have been more common in the 90s/00s.
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