| Can we be consistent about MPs, not just who we like? 22:22 - Mar 29 with 5336 views | BRIDGHAMBLUE |
Reading through some of the reactions over the last few days, it feels like the issue isn’t really about a politician being around the club,it’s about which politician it is.
If the concern is that an MP is involved or being welcomed, then that should apply across the board, not just because it’s someone from Reform UK that people don’t like. You can’t say it’s unacceptable in one case but fine when it’s someone from Labour Party or any other party.
Every political party has had its issues over the years, whether that’s internal divisions, poor decisions, or controversies. You only have to look back at Tony Blair and the Iraq War to see that no side has a perfect record. That doesn’t mean everyone in that party is bad — and the same logic should apply across the board.
Some of the reactions on here have been a bit over the top, to be honest. Acting like people are personally affected or harmed just because a politician visited or had a meeting feels exaggerated.
Also worth saying: throwing around words like “fascist” at anyone you disagree with is way over the top. Most people using it don’t seem to understand what it actually means and it just cheapens the word and shuts down any proper discussion. Disagree with someone, fine, but labelling them with extreme terms isn’t helping anyone.
Talking about things like immigration policy doesn’t automatically make someone racist. It’s a legitimate topic that governments deal with, whether people agree on the approach or not. Labelling anyone who raises it as “far-right” just shuts down discussion completely.
And on the marches, fair enough, people can do what they want. But turning up in big numbers doesn’t automatically mean you’re right or that you’re creating real change. It’s more a show of feeling than a solution. Real change comes from debate, policy, and action,not just being part of a crowd for a day.
End of the day, if we want to be taken seriously, there needs to be some balance. Either we’re okay with politicians engaging around the club, or we’re not. But it shouldn’t depend on whether we personally agree with them. |  | | |  |
| Can we be consistent about MPs, not just who we like? on 22:31 - Mar 29 with 2664 views | pointofblue |
For me, if any political party had been given the access and promotional support supplied to Reform I would have been disgusted. Because the club, as per the weak statement which followed, is supposed to be apolitical. This is because every political very party has it's own issues and controversies which cause division, across a fanbase, and no doubt amongst playing and non-playing staff, where the only thing we'll be able to agree on is supporting the club. | |
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| Can we be consistent about MPs, not just who we like? on 22:32 - Mar 29 with 2661 views | jayessess |
It's both though, isn't it?
This is particular politician who lots of people don't want to see enabled by their club or associated with the club, so the people that feel that are going to articulate that feeling.
And the reality is that pretty much any politician will provoke that in some people, even if Ed Davey wouldn't be aggravating to quite so many people, so it's better not to let political parties film their propaganda in our dressing room full stop.
And although people claim all political parties are the same, fact is no other political party has ever used the club in quite such a divisive way.
Perfectly coherent and consistent to believe all those things. [Post edited 29 Mar 22:33]
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| Can we be consistent about MPs, not just who we like? on 22:33 - Mar 29 with 2648 views | vapour_trail |
No it isn’t.
You didn’t respond to answers to your previous post.
That’s because you started posting here today and you’re a troll.
Feck off. |  |
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| Can we be consistent about MPs, not just who we like? on 22:34 - Mar 29 with 2642 views | unbelievablue |
Oh come on, Farage is an odious, bigoted, hate-filled xenophobe AT BEST. I won’t be told by others to treat him like other politicians when there’s an objective moral difference. |  |
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| Can we be consistent about MPs, not just who we like? on 22:35 - Mar 29 with 2622 views | KBsSocks |
This is not about an external politician.
This is about lies and gaslighting from within.
Thanks for your lengthy contribution, but you are about 3 days behind the discussions. |  |
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| Can we be consistent about MPs, not just who we like? on 22:37 - Mar 29 with 2598 views | BRIDGHAMBLUE |
| Can we be consistent about MPs, not just who we like? on 22:31 - Mar 29 by pointofblue |
For me, if any political party had been given the access and promotional support supplied to Reform I would have been disgusted. Because the club, as per the weak statement which followed, is supposed to be apolitical. This is because every political very party has it's own issues and controversies which cause division, across a fanbase, and no doubt amongst playing and non-playing staff, where the only thing we'll be able to agree on is supporting the club. |
Well done, proper post and reply. | | | |
| Can we be consistent about MPs, not just who we like? on 22:38 - Mar 29 with 2582 views | BRIDGHAMBLUE |
| Can we be consistent about MPs, not just who we like? on 22:33 - Mar 29 by vapour_trail |
No it isn’t.
You didn’t respond to answers to your previous post.
That’s because you started posting here today and you’re a troll.
Feck off. |
Sorry if the post is above you intelligence level. | | | |
| Can we be consistent about MPs, not just who we like? on 22:38 - Mar 29 with 2570 views | jaykay |
| Can we be consistent about MPs, not just who we like? on 22:33 - Mar 29 by vapour_trail |
No it isn’t.
You didn’t respond to answers to your previous post.
That’s because you started posting here today and you’re a troll.
Feck off. |
you correct a lot of posts for a newbie on their first day out. i bet he couldn't name our team from a couple of years ago. a troll or worse norwich supporter |  |
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| Can we be consistent about MPs, not just who we like? on 22:39 - Mar 29 with 2558 views | BRIDGHAMBLUE |
| Can we be consistent about MPs, not just who we like? on 22:34 - Mar 29 by unbelievablue |
Oh come on, Farage is an odious, bigoted, hate-filled xenophobe AT BEST. I won’t be told by others to treat him like other politicians when there’s an objective moral difference. |
How many lives did Labour end.? under Blair.? | | | |
| Can we be consistent about MPs, not just who we like? on 22:39 - Mar 29 with 2549 views | vapour_trail |
| Can we be consistent about MPs, not just who we like? on 22:38 - Mar 29 by BRIDGHAMBLUE |
Sorry if the post is above you intelligence level. |
It’s ‘your’ you cretin. | |
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| Can we be consistent about MPs, not just who we like? on 22:40 - Mar 29 with 2540 views | CrayonKing |
Oh good. You're doing the "you wouldn't complain if it was Zack Polanski" line too. Thought we'd have to wait til tomorrow to hear that one again. |  | | |
| Can we be consistent about MPs, not just who we like? on 22:40 - Mar 29 with 2528 views | BRIDGHAMBLUE |
| Can we be consistent about MPs, not just who we like? on 22:38 - Mar 29 by jaykay |
you correct a lot of posts for a newbie on their first day out. i bet he couldn't name our team from a couple of years ago. a troll or worse norwich supporter |
Lol. The 2024 promotion team is basically gone. Calling that a troll says more about your understanding than my post. | | | |
| Can we be consistent about MPs, not just who we like? on 22:41 - Mar 29 with 2501 views | Herbivore |
| Can we be consistent about MPs, not just who we like? on 22:39 - Mar 29 by BRIDGHAMBLUE |
How many lives did Labour end.? under Blair.? |
Why are you wanging on about Tony Blair? You're doing it on multiple threads as well. He hasn't been PM for nearly 20 years and I don't recall him ever coming to PR and using it for self-promotion with the club being complicit in it. |  |
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| Can we be consistent about MPs, not just who we like? on 22:42 - Mar 29 with 2483 views | BRIDGHAMBLUE |
| Can we be consistent about MPs, not just who we like? on 22:39 - Mar 29 by vapour_trail |
It’s ‘your’ you cretin. |
Why the abuse? There’s no need for it at all, maybe take a step back and actually look into it. | | | |
| Can we be consistent about MPs, not just who we like? on 22:42 - Mar 29 with 2467 views | BRIDGHAMBLUE |
| Can we be consistent about MPs, not just who we like? on 22:41 - Mar 29 by Herbivore |
Why are you wanging on about Tony Blair? You're doing it on multiple threads as well. He hasn't been PM for nearly 20 years and I don't recall him ever coming to PR and using it for self-promotion with the club being complicit in it. |
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| Can we be consistent about MPs, not just who we like? on 22:45 - Mar 29 with 2405 views | positivity |
| Can we be consistent about MPs, not just who we like? on 22:38 - Mar 29 by BRIDGHAMBLUE |
Sorry if the post is above you intelligence level. |
Why the abuse? There’s no need for it at all, maybe take a step back and actually look into it. | |
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| Can we be consistent about MPs, not just who we like? on 22:47 - Mar 29 with 2386 views | LeoMuff |
| Can we be consistent about MPs, not just who we like? on 22:39 - Mar 29 by BRIDGHAMBLUE |
How many lives did Labour end.? under Blair.? |
That Pitt the younger was a wrong un as well. |  |
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| Can we be consistent about MPs, not just who we like? on 22:47 - Mar 29 with 2368 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
Yawn!
Pay attention if you want to be taken seriously. |  |
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| Can we be consistent about MPs, not just who we like? on 22:47 - Mar 29 with 2374 views | Camul123 |
| Can we be consistent about MPs, not just who we like? on 22:42 - Mar 29 by BRIDGHAMBLUE |
Why the abuse? There’s no need for it at all, maybe take a step back and actually look into it. |
Check out Moral Majority's posts over the last few days - all the answers you need are there.
If you're going to write an essay for the board then at least demonstrate you've read the room. | | | |
| Can we be consistent about MPs, not just who we like? on 22:52 - Mar 29 with 2310 views | BRIDGHAMBLUE |
| Can we be consistent about MPs, not just who we like? on 22:34 - Mar 29 by unbelievablue |
Oh come on, Farage is an odious, bigoted, hate-filled xenophobe AT BEST. I won’t be told by others to treat him like other politicians when there’s an objective moral difference. |
What MP has any sort of moral compos.???????????? | | | |
| Can we be consistent about MPs, not just who we like? on 22:53 - Mar 29 with 2294 views | BRIDGHAMBLUE |
| Can we be consistent about MPs, not just who we like? on 22:39 - Mar 29 by vapour_trail |
It’s ‘your’ you cretin. |
You talk and sound like the people you don't like. bet every other word out your mouth is f this k that. lol | | | |
| Can we be consistent about MPs, not just who we like? on 22:54 - Mar 29 with 2279 views | KBsSocks |
| Can we be consistent about MPs, not just who we like? on 22:52 - Mar 29 by BRIDGHAMBLUE |
What MP has any sort of moral compos.???????????? |
"We" are not that bothered about the MP who visited.
"We" are bothered about the inaction of the Chair / CEO, then lies, then a lack of meaningful apology. | |
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| Can we be consistent about MPs, not just who we like? on 22:55 - Mar 29 with 2270 views | reusersfreekicks |
| Can we be consistent about MPs, not just who we like? on 22:34 - Mar 29 by unbelievablue |
Oh come on, Farage is an odious, bigoted, hate-filled xenophobe AT BEST. I won’t be told by others to treat him like other politicians when there’s an objective moral difference. |
Saddens me how many people can't see this |  | | |
| Can we be consistent about MPs, not just who we like? on 22:55 - Mar 29 with 2266 views | positivity |
| Can we be consistent about MPs, not just who we like? on 22:52 - Mar 29 by BRIDGHAMBLUE |
What MP has any sort of moral compos.???????????? |
farage's welsh leader had some immoral compos from russia if that helps. | |
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| Can we be consistent about MPs, not just who we like? on 22:56 - Mar 29 with 2256 views | Swansea_Blue |
That will be addressed in the new policy.
To say "Acting like people are personally affected or harmed just because a politician visited or had a meeting feels exaggerated" shows you have no idea, nor care, how this may have affected people who feel threatened by Reform's rhetoric and the growing racism being shown in society however.
You should always try and understand people's feelings imo, rather than dismiss them. Maybe the feelings are exaggerated, although how do you prove that on a message board? I've learnt to trust this place, so I take them at face value. |  |
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