| No ceasefire - because Netanyahu says so 20:34 - Apr 11 with 2031 views | ElderGrizzly |
Throw in a few threats to Turkey too for good measure
|  | | |  |
| No ceasefire - because Netanyahu says so on 20:37 - Apr 11 with 1780 views | ElderGrizzly |
While war crimes continue to be carried out in Lebanon tonight
| | | |
| No ceasefire - because Netanyahu says so on 20:59 - Apr 11 with 1659 views | NthQldITFC |
| No ceasefire - because Netanyahu says so on 20:37 - Apr 11 by ElderGrizzly |
While war crimes continue to be carried out in Lebanon tonight
|
If that's true is it a new low?
Where are we now on comparisons with other, earlier, rogue states?
Why is it that western nations are so slow to condemn and totally isolate, ostracise and heavily and meaningfully sanction a former ally constantly and callously murdering civilians?
The people of that country also have a democratic responsibility to hold their government to account, but seem to be heavily in favour of having murder done in their name on a continuous basis.
It walks, looks, flies and quacks like a vicious, murderous duck, does it not. |  |
| |
| No ceasefire - because Netanyahu says so on 21:26 - Apr 11 with 1546 views | tonybied |
| No ceasefire - because Netanyahu says so on 20:59 - Apr 11 by NthQldITFC |
If that's true is it a new low?
Where are we now on comparisons with other, earlier, rogue states?
Why is it that western nations are so slow to condemn and totally isolate, ostracise and heavily and meaningfully sanction a former ally constantly and callously murdering civilians?
The people of that country also have a democratic responsibility to hold their government to account, but seem to be heavily in favour of having murder done in their name on a continuous basis.
It walks, looks, flies and quacks like a vicious, murderous duck, does it not. |
Because anyone that has the gall to call Israel a terrorist state is shouted down as being antisemitic! |  | | |
| No ceasefire - because Netanyahu says so on 21:35 - Apr 11 with 1523 views | NthQldITFC |
| No ceasefire - because Netanyahu says so on 21:26 - Apr 11 by tonybied |
Because anyone that has the gall to call Israel a terrorist state is shouted down as being antisemitic! |
I don't really like the word terrorist as a description as it has been so bastardised and devalued over the years since 9-11.
Basically anybody who uses violence gets called a terrorist by anybody who doesn't like them.
This is more systematic, asymmetrical state-directed murder on an ongoing basis. Called out by the UN and various 'braver' countries, but shamefully officially unrecognised by the likes of the UK due to fear of a raving lunatic in the White House.
It's a sad, sad indictment of how flaccid western democracy has become and how much financial interests completely override morals and human decency. We don't have much further to sink from here to be back in the 1930s, do we? | |
| |
| No ceasefire - because Netanyahu says so on 21:40 - Apr 11 with 1491 views | GlasgowBlue |
| No ceasefire - because Netanyahu says so on 21:26 - Apr 11 by tonybied |
Because anyone that has the gall to call Israel a terrorist state is shouted down as being antisemitic! |
It’s not a terrorist state. But it’s certainly not antisemitic to call Israel a terrorist stats.
It’s a state that is committing war crimes. And it’s certainly not antisemitic to call that out.
Who are these people who were shouted down as being antisemitic for calling Israel a terrorist state? |  |
| |
| No ceasefire - because Netanyahu says so on 21:45 - Apr 11 with 1471 views | tonybied |
| No ceasefire - because Netanyahu says so on 21:40 - Apr 11 by GlasgowBlue |
It’s not a terrorist state. But it’s certainly not antisemitic to call Israel a terrorist stats.
It’s a state that is committing war crimes. And it’s certainly not antisemitic to call that out.
Who are these people who were shouted down as being antisemitic for calling Israel a terrorist state? |
Netanyahu to whoever dares to criticise! [Post edited 11 Apr 22:02]
| | | |
| No ceasefire - because Netanyahu says so on 22:33 - Apr 11 with 1311 views | Cafe_Newman |
| No ceasefire - because Netanyahu says so on 20:59 - Apr 11 by NthQldITFC |
If that's true is it a new low?
Where are we now on comparisons with other, earlier, rogue states?
Why is it that western nations are so slow to condemn and totally isolate, ostracise and heavily and meaningfully sanction a former ally constantly and callously murdering civilians?
The people of that country also have a democratic responsibility to hold their government to account, but seem to be heavily in favour of having murder done in their name on a continuous basis.
It walks, looks, flies and quacks like a vicious, murderous duck, does it not. |
"Why is it that western nations are so slow to condemn and totally isolate, ostracise and heavily and meaningfully sanction a former ally constantly and callously murdering civilians?"
I was going to answer that question, but the answer does not pass the IHRA working definition of antisemitism. So I'll say nothing and do nothing and allow these crimes against humanity to go on.
In other other news, the evil leaders of Iran, the world's largest sponsor of terror, eat babies. |  |
| FREE PALASTINE FROM ZIONIST BOMBS. FREE LEBANON FROM ZIONIST BOMBS. FREE IRAN FROM ZIONIST BOMBS. |
| |
| No ceasefire - because Netanyahu says so on 22:34 - Apr 11 with 1310 views | Cafe_Newman |
| No ceasefire - because Netanyahu says so on 21:26 - Apr 11 by tonybied |
Because anyone that has the gall to call Israel a terrorist state is shouted down as being antisemitic! |
Ah, you got there first. | |
| FREE PALASTINE FROM ZIONIST BOMBS. FREE LEBANON FROM ZIONIST BOMBS. FREE IRAN FROM ZIONIST BOMBS. |
| |
Login to get fewer ads
| No ceasefire - because Netanyahu says so on 22:39 - Apr 11 with 1305 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| No ceasefire - because Netanyahu says so on 21:40 - Apr 11 by GlasgowBlue |
It’s not a terrorist state. But it’s certainly not antisemitic to call Israel a terrorist stats.
It’s a state that is committing war crimes. And it’s certainly not antisemitic to call that out.
Who are these people who were shouted down as being antisemitic for calling Israel a terrorist state? |
What’s the difference between war crimes and terrorism? |  |
| |
| No ceasefire - because Netanyahu says so on 23:01 - Apr 11 with 1237 views | Cafe_Newman |
| No ceasefire - because Netanyahu says so on 22:39 - Apr 11 by Cheltenham_Blue |
What’s the difference between war crimes and terrorism? |
Terrorism (also known as resistance) is what oppressed countries do, and these countries are generally punished (or "liberated") by more advanced countries using war crimes. [Post edited 12 Apr 0:41]
| |
| FREE PALASTINE FROM ZIONIST BOMBS. FREE LEBANON FROM ZIONIST BOMBS. FREE IRAN FROM ZIONIST BOMBS. |
| |
| No ceasefire - because Netanyahu says so on 07:00 - Apr 12 with 1088 views | ElderGrizzly |
| No ceasefire - because Netanyahu says so on 21:26 - Apr 11 by tonybied |
Because anyone that has the gall to call Israel a terrorist state is shouted down as being antisemitic! |
Turkey’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs is now comparing Netanyahu to Hitler
| | | |
| No ceasefire - because Netanyahu says so on 07:07 - Apr 12 with 1068 views | GlasgowBlue |
| No ceasefire - because Netanyahu says so on 07:00 - Apr 12 by ElderGrizzly |
Turkey’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs is now comparing Netanyahu to Hitler
|
Now that is antisemitic. You’re spreading antisemitic content from the country who have committed war crimes and massacres of the Kurds. What happened to you? Why can’t you be totally appalled at the actions of the Israel state, and express your legitimate disgust without falling into antisemitic tropes (your use of the antisemitic puppeteer trope, twice) and now comparing the actions to the Israeli state to those of the Nazis. [Post edited 12 Apr 7:36]
| |
| |
| No ceasefire - because Netanyahu says so on 07:09 - Apr 12 with 1070 views | ElderGrizzly |
Negotiations went as well as you’d expect in Pakistan when you send JD Vance and two property developers (Kushner & Witkoff)
While they were there, Rubio, who should be leading negotiations as Secretary of State, was at a UFC match with Trump
| | | |
| No ceasefire - because Netanyahu says so on 08:11 - Apr 12 with 992 views | ElderGrizzly |
| No ceasefire - because Netanyahu says so on 07:07 - Apr 12 by GlasgowBlue |
Now that is antisemitic. You’re spreading antisemitic content from the country who have committed war crimes and massacres of the Kurds. What happened to you? Why can’t you be totally appalled at the actions of the Israel state, and express your legitimate disgust without falling into antisemitic tropes (your use of the antisemitic puppeteer trope, twice) and now comparing the actions to the Israeli state to those of the Nazis. [Post edited 12 Apr 7:36]
|
They are not my views.
I am reporting what western media is reporting overnight on Israel.
Again, you are doing what is being called out here by accusing others of being anti-Semitic for simply calling out Israel’s war crimes. Crimes that I personally think are not being done for the people of Israel but for the bloodlust of one man and his allies.
Netanyahu threatened Turkey yesterday. They called him out and threatened to arrest him.
Netanyahu threatened Spain 48 hours ago and they called him out too and because they dod Trump has threatened sanctions on Spain.
We’ve been over the ‘puppet’ thing multiple times. I didn’t mean anything by it but you won’t let it go and continue to spread lies. Others even picked up on it, but you continue.
Anyone can see what is happening with Israel and the war-lust of their PM. Even previous Israeli PMs were calling him out yesterday.
I’m done engaging on this topic on here and with you.
[Post edited 12 Apr 8:15]
| | | |
| No ceasefire - because Netanyahu says so on 08:24 - Apr 12 with 952 views | DJR |
This is shocking.
https://www.theguardian.com/wo
‘Everything is gone’: Israel destroys entire villages in Lebanon
Rights groups fear tactic of ‘domicide’ trialled in Gaza, where entire areas are made uninhabitable, is being used again |  | | |
| No ceasefire - because Netanyahu says so on 08:25 - Apr 12 with 946 views | GlasgowBlue |
| No ceasefire - because Netanyahu says so on 08:11 - Apr 12 by ElderGrizzly |
They are not my views.
I am reporting what western media is reporting overnight on Israel.
Again, you are doing what is being called out here by accusing others of being anti-Semitic for simply calling out Israel’s war crimes. Crimes that I personally think are not being done for the people of Israel but for the bloodlust of one man and his allies.
Netanyahu threatened Turkey yesterday. They called him out and threatened to arrest him.
Netanyahu threatened Spain 48 hours ago and they called him out too and because they dod Trump has threatened sanctions on Spain.
We’ve been over the ‘puppet’ thing multiple times. I didn’t mean anything by it but you won’t let it go and continue to spread lies. Others even picked up on it, but you continue.
Anyone can see what is happening with Israel and the war-lust of their PM. Even previous Israeli PMs were calling him out yesterday.
I’m done engaging on this topic on here and with you.
[Post edited 12 Apr 8:15]
|
You posted an antisemitic tweet from Turkey’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs. That wasn’t a western media outlet. It’s a state account representing a country which, like Israel, has committed war crimes.
Stop engaging by all means. But I will to pull you up if you continue to post antisemitic tropes. | |
| |
| No ceasefire - because Netanyahu says so on 08:34 - Apr 12 with 937 views | NthQldITFC |
| No ceasefire - because Netanyahu says so on 07:07 - Apr 12 by GlasgowBlue |
Now that is antisemitic. You’re spreading antisemitic content from the country who have committed war crimes and massacres of the Kurds. What happened to you? Why can’t you be totally appalled at the actions of the Israel state, and express your legitimate disgust without falling into antisemitic tropes (your use of the antisemitic puppeteer trope, twice) and now comparing the actions to the Israeli state to those of the Nazis. [Post edited 12 Apr 7:36]
|
May I ask you a simplistic question GB with no offence to anybody intended:
Is there a theoretical point where the actions of Netanyahu (but also the support of his cabinet, and less directly the 'electoral' support of public opinion in Israel) - ought to be compared to that earlier monster and the system that supported and enabled him, because of the magnitude, continuous nature and acceleration of the war crimes (a polite phrase for ongoing state murder of innocents) which 'nobody' denies are continuously happening? Would it need concentration/death camps to be a justified comparison? (sorry, painful to have to mention that)
Hearing reliable reporting that the IDF are targeting healthcare workers and ambulances in Lebanon - just the latest 'war crime' maybe, but piled up on the bodies of tens of thousands of innocent Gazans, etc., etc., etc., etc. - I'm conscious of a dulling of the senses (not hard in me) in myself and the risk that this just slides further and further with all of us looking away a bit more.
Waffle aside - is there a point at which that comparison is met with an actual "yes, while the comparison is very painful to the 'human' part of the Human Race, these are becoming essentially the same actions and the need to make the comparison for the greater good of people suffering now is paramount"?
I'll apologise in advance if my clumsy question causes offence or worse, but I feel it needs to be asked. | |
| |
| No ceasefire - because Netanyahu says so on 08:39 - Apr 12 with 920 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| No ceasefire - because Netanyahu says so on 08:25 - Apr 12 by GlasgowBlue |
You posted an antisemitic tweet from Turkey’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs. That wasn’t a western media outlet. It’s a state account representing a country which, like Israel, has committed war crimes.
Stop engaging by all means. But I will to pull you up if you continue to post antisemitic tropes. |
Sorry GB, where was the antisemitic trope in this exchange? | |
| |
| No ceasefire - because Netanyahu says so on 09:38 - Apr 12 with 847 views | GlasgowBlue |
| No ceasefire - because Netanyahu says so on 08:39 - Apr 12 by Cheltenham_Blue |
Sorry GB, where was the antisemitic trope in this exchange? |
Comaring Netanyahu to Hitler. | |
| |
| No ceasefire - because Netanyahu says so on 09:41 - Apr 12 with 837 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| No ceasefire - because Netanyahu says so on 09:38 - Apr 12 by GlasgowBlue |
Comaring Netanyahu to Hitler. |
Right. | |
| |
| No ceasefire - because Netanyahu says so on 09:55 - Apr 12 with 801 views | GlasgowBlue |
| No ceasefire - because Netanyahu says so on 08:34 - Apr 12 by NthQldITFC |
May I ask you a simplistic question GB with no offence to anybody intended:
Is there a theoretical point where the actions of Netanyahu (but also the support of his cabinet, and less directly the 'electoral' support of public opinion in Israel) - ought to be compared to that earlier monster and the system that supported and enabled him, because of the magnitude, continuous nature and acceleration of the war crimes (a polite phrase for ongoing state murder of innocents) which 'nobody' denies are continuously happening? Would it need concentration/death camps to be a justified comparison? (sorry, painful to have to mention that)
Hearing reliable reporting that the IDF are targeting healthcare workers and ambulances in Lebanon - just the latest 'war crime' maybe, but piled up on the bodies of tens of thousands of innocent Gazans, etc., etc., etc., etc. - I'm conscious of a dulling of the senses (not hard in me) in myself and the risk that this just slides further and further with all of us looking away a bit more.
Waffle aside - is there a point at which that comparison is met with an actual "yes, while the comparison is very painful to the 'human' part of the Human Race, these are becoming essentially the same actions and the need to make the comparison for the greater good of people suffering now is paramount"?
I'll apologise in advance if my clumsy question causes offence or worse, but I feel it needs to be asked. |
So Putin, Stalin. Pol Pot, Mao and numerous other bloodthirsty dictators have committed the war crimes you have listed. So why use the comparison to Hitler? Why none of those listed?
Numbers? Without coming across as insensitive, it has been reported that the war in Gaza has cost the lives of 75,000 innocent civilians. The Iraq war cost the lives over 200,0000+ innocent civilians. We call George W Bush and Blair war criminals. That is a legitimate debate which people have. We don't compare either to Hitler.
Hitler was responsible for an estimated 30 to over 40 million Allied civilians in WW2. Plus the extermination of 6 million Jews and nother 500,000 Romani people (including Sinti).
So the actions of the Israeli state do not compare in any shape or form to the actions of Hitler and the Nazis.
You asked the question "Would it need concentration/death camps to be a justified comparison"? And yet other countries have used concentration camps. Britain (Boer War), Spain (Cuba) and the Soviet Union (Gulags).
None of the above is a defence of Netanyahu. He is a war criminal and should be prosecuted as such.
Now to the antisemitism. And I really wish people would educate themselves on this subject.
The IHRA definition of Antisemitism states that it is antisemitic to compare the actions of the Israeli ste to the Nazis.
The state of Israel was formed by Holocaust survivors as a safe haven for Jews after the Nazis exterminated 6 million of them. Now one could argue, as I have in the previous paragraph, that the actions of the Israeli state is comparable to Mao's China or Putins Russia. But you don't see that comparison. There are numerous historical examples that people can compare the actions of the Israeli state to. But when people compare the actions of the Israeli state to the Nazis, they are attacking them as Jews. That they haven't learned a moral lesson from their own history. It also trivialises the Holocaust.
[Post edited 12 Apr 9:58]
| |
| |
| No ceasefire - because Netanyahu says so on 10:25 - Apr 12 with 736 views | NthQldITFC |
| No ceasefire - because Netanyahu says so on 09:55 - Apr 12 by GlasgowBlue |
So Putin, Stalin. Pol Pot, Mao and numerous other bloodthirsty dictators have committed the war crimes you have listed. So why use the comparison to Hitler? Why none of those listed?
Numbers? Without coming across as insensitive, it has been reported that the war in Gaza has cost the lives of 75,000 innocent civilians. The Iraq war cost the lives over 200,0000+ innocent civilians. We call George W Bush and Blair war criminals. That is a legitimate debate which people have. We don't compare either to Hitler.
Hitler was responsible for an estimated 30 to over 40 million Allied civilians in WW2. Plus the extermination of 6 million Jews and nother 500,000 Romani people (including Sinti).
So the actions of the Israeli state do not compare in any shape or form to the actions of Hitler and the Nazis.
You asked the question "Would it need concentration/death camps to be a justified comparison"? And yet other countries have used concentration camps. Britain (Boer War), Spain (Cuba) and the Soviet Union (Gulags).
None of the above is a defence of Netanyahu. He is a war criminal and should be prosecuted as such.
Now to the antisemitism. And I really wish people would educate themselves on this subject.
The IHRA definition of Antisemitism states that it is antisemitic to compare the actions of the Israeli ste to the Nazis.
The state of Israel was formed by Holocaust survivors as a safe haven for Jews after the Nazis exterminated 6 million of them. Now one could argue, as I have in the previous paragraph, that the actions of the Israeli state is comparable to Mao's China or Putins Russia. But you don't see that comparison. There are numerous historical examples that people can compare the actions of the Israeli state to. But when people compare the actions of the Israeli state to the Nazis, they are attacking them as Jews. That they haven't learned a moral lesson from their own history. It also trivialises the Holocaust.
[Post edited 12 Apr 9:58]
|
Thanks GB, I'm thinking about what you're saying. | |
| |
| No ceasefire - because Netanyahu says so on 10:58 - Apr 12 with 695 views | GlasgowBlue |
| No ceasefire - because Netanyahu says so on 10:25 - Apr 12 by NthQldITFC |
Thanks GB, I'm thinking about what you're saying. |
No problem. But remember, it's not what I'm saying. It's what the International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance (IHRA) states in their definition of antisemitism. | |
| |
| No ceasefire - because Netanyahu says so on 11:05 - Apr 12 with 682 views | GeoffSentence |
Perhaps someone could remind me, which countries are in the Axis Of Evil? |  |
| |
| No ceasefire - because Netanyahu says so on 11:13 - Apr 12 with 664 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| No ceasefire - because Netanyahu says so on 11:05 - Apr 12 by GeoffSentence |
Perhaps someone could remind me, which countries are in the Axis Of Evil? |
Well, Iraq, Iran and North Korea and then later Cuba, Syria and Libya.
Lets not forget, unlike U2, 'The Axis of Evil' is not an actual group, its a term coined by George Bush, at least one of which, (Iraq and latterly Libya), were mentioned explicitly and deliberately to pursue an illegal war against. As Bush cited Iraq in his state of the union address as, 'trying to acquire weapons of mass destruction' when he first mentioned the 'axis of evil' [Post edited 12 Apr 11:16]
| |
| |
| |
By continuing to use the site, you agree to our use of cookies and to abide by our Terms and Conditions.
