| EU contributions by country 17:11 - Mar 31 with 8430 views | Lord_Lucan |
Although an avid (and still furious) inner there is much talk about how much Brexit is going to cost The UK. Although it doesn't affect my stance I would imagine that The EU would also be effected quite a bit financially by our withdrawal.
GB; Pretty sure you mentioned that aside from Germany and France we put more in than the rest put together. Must admit though I find that hard to believe.
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| EU contributions by country on 17:18 - Mar 31 with 3381 views | factual_blue |
The UK pays the lowest percentage of gross national income of any EU country, a mere 0.59% (2007 figures, the most recent I've seen). |  |
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| EU contributions by country on 17:22 - Mar 31 with 3378 views | blue_oyster |
As a net contributor, the EU will make it as unattractive for us to leave as possible, with the usual threats and half-truths. I suspect we'll now enter a 2-year period of bureaucracy with not much happening. |  |
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| EU contributions by country on 17:27 - Mar 31 with 3358 views | Darth_Koont |
| EU contributions by country on 17:22 - Mar 31 by blue_oyster |
As a net contributor, the EU will make it as unattractive for us to leave as possible, with the usual threats and half-truths. I suspect we'll now enter a 2-year period of bureaucracy with not much happening. |
Whatever people might think of the EU the threats and half-truths will more likely be coming from us. For the EU there are no party politics to play or the need to defend political careers. |  |
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| EU contributions by country on 17:34 - Mar 31 with 3297 views | WeWereZombies |
| EU contributions by country on 17:22 - Mar 31 by blue_oyster |
As a net contributor, the EU will make it as unattractive for us to leave as possible, with the usual threats and half-truths. I suspect we'll now enter a 2-year period of bureaucracy with not much happening. |
I suspect it will be nearer three years with quite a bit happening. Any advance on 3? |  |
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| EU contributions by country on 17:35 - Mar 31 with 3297 views | Pinewoodblue |
| EU contributions by country on 17:27 - Mar 31 by Darth_Koont |
Whatever people might think of the EU the threats and half-truths will more likely be coming from us. For the EU there are no party politics to play or the need to defend political careers. |
After Brexit becomes a reality the Gravy train will be short of fuel. |  |
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| EU contributions by country on 17:38 - Mar 31 with 3287 views | MJallday |
| EU contributions by country on 17:18 - Mar 31 by factual_blue |
The UK pays the lowest percentage of gross national income of any EU country, a mere 0.59% (2007 figures, the most recent I've seen). |
i think its misleading to quote it in percentage terms. you can apply the "father ted" principle ...
"if there are 100 million priests in the world, and only 10% were pedophiles, then thats still only 10 million...."
quote it in money terms and it becomes much more of an interesting stat. |  |
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| EU contributions by country on 17:41 - Mar 31 with 3272 views | Swansea_Blue |
| EU contributions by country on 17:18 - Mar 31 by factual_blue |
The UK pays the lowest percentage of gross national income of any EU country, a mere 0.59% (2007 figures, the most recent I've seen). |
It hasn't changed much. Fill yer boots here
http://ukandeu.ac.uk/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/Who-pays-for-the-EU-and-how-much
🚨 âš ï¸ pesky expert alert âš ï¸ ðŸš¨
We'll never know the true cost and benefits I suspect. How do you put a value (or a cost) on the social or environmental aspects - not easy and not included in the audit trail. [Post edited 31 Mar 2017 19:45]
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| EU contributions by country on 17:43 - Mar 31 with 3260 views | Swansea_Blue |
| EU contributions by country on 17:38 - Mar 31 by MJallday |
i think its misleading to quote it in percentage terms. you can apply the "father ted" principle ...
"if there are 100 million priests in the world, and only 10% were pedophiles, then thats still only 10 million...."
quote it in money terms and it becomes much more of an interesting stat. |
*Splutter*
I don't even know where to start with that! And can't anyway as the kids have got swimming.
I leave you lot to argue round in circles. | |
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| EU contributions by country on 17:43 - Mar 31 with 3256 views | Pinewoodblue |
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| EU contributions by country on 17:45 - Mar 31 with 3246 views | factual_blue |
| EU contributions by country on 17:38 - Mar 31 by MJallday |
i think its misleading to quote it in percentage terms. you can apply the "father ted" principle ...
"if there are 100 million priests in the world, and only 10% were pedophiles, then thats still only 10 million...."
quote it in money terms and it becomes much more of an interesting stat. |
However large it looks as a 'real' amount, it's still only a very small proportion of a even larger amount. | |
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| EU contributions by country on 17:52 - Mar 31 with 3217 views | Darth_Koont |
| EU contributions by country on 17:35 - Mar 31 by Pinewoodblue |
After Brexit becomes a reality the Gravy train will be short of fuel. |
Whose gravy train? Ours or theirs?
In any case, we'll need more of our own unelected bureaucrats now. | |
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| EU contributions by country on 18:52 - Mar 31 with 3117 views | MJallday |
| EU contributions by country on 17:45 - Mar 31 by factual_blue |
However large it looks as a 'real' amount, it's still only a very small proportion of a even larger amount. |
i dont disagree we contribute (many many) millions - and i think thats the bit that they are most scared of - paritcually germany and france, who will now be expected to prop up the likes of the greeks (whom are bankrupt) the italiams (whom are perenially in debt), the slovakian nations who only a few years ago were a war zone
and of course, the spanish whom just dont give a s**t | |
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| EU contributions by country on 18:56 - Mar 31 with 3098 views | MJallday |
| EU contributions by country on 18:52 - Mar 31 by MJallday |
i dont disagree we contribute (many many) millions - and i think thats the bit that they are most scared of - paritcually germany and france, who will now be expected to prop up the likes of the greeks (whom are bankrupt) the italiams (whom are perenially in debt), the slovakian nations who only a few years ago were a war zone
and of course, the spanish whom just dont give a s**t |
incidently, this is a great interactive graph showing the actual contribs - but it is 10 years old
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/8036097.stm#start [Post edited 31 Mar 2017 18:56]
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| EU contributions by country on 18:56 - Mar 31 with 3085 views | vapour_trail |
| EU contributions by country on 17:52 - Mar 31 by Darth_Koont |
Whose gravy train? Ours or theirs?
In any case, we'll need more of our own unelected bureaucrats now. |
Either that other they'll all focus on this rather than any other activity. Our policy and public affairs people have been told not to expect to get anything done for a couple of years. We are refocusing on the devolved governments. |  |
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| EU contributions by country on 18:58 - Mar 31 with 3073 views | J2BLUE |
I must admit it has surprised me how quickly a few of you who considered voting out have become 'furious' inners! |  |
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| EU contributions by country on 19:02 - Mar 31 with 3049 views | MJallday |
| EU contributions by country on 18:58 - Mar 31 by J2BLUE |
I must admit it has surprised me how quickly a few of you who considered voting out have become 'furious' inners! |
so i have a solution to this entire thing
according to
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/0/how-much-do-we-spend-on-the-eu-and-what-else-c
we pay 12.9 billion a year net into europe. (after contribs)
so what we say to them is "we'll pay that for the next 5 years, providing we still have access to the same trade routes" - we're out, but we'll still pay it.
it costs us nothing extra
theyve got 5 years to con some other nation out of it
we get the trade deal for at least 5 more years and that buys us time to get in bed with the indians/chineese/rusians/us / emerging nations
everyones happy. seems pretty simple to me. | |
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| EU contributions by country on 19:02 - Mar 31 with 3049 views | Lord_Lucan |
| EU contributions by country on 18:58 - Mar 31 by J2BLUE |
I must admit it has surprised me how quickly a few of you who considered voting out have become 'furious' inners! |
I never ever considered voting out. | |
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| EU contributions by country on 19:05 - Mar 31 with 3030 views | J2BLUE |
| EU contributions by country on 19:02 - Mar 31 by Lord_Lucan |
I never ever considered voting out. |
I was sure you posted that you were voting out at one stage. Apologies if I am wrong. | |
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| EU contributions by country on 19:07 - Mar 31 with 3015 views | EdwardStone |
| EU contributions by country on 18:52 - Mar 31 by MJallday |
i dont disagree we contribute (many many) millions - and i think thats the bit that they are most scared of - paritcually germany and france, who will now be expected to prop up the likes of the greeks (whom are bankrupt) the italiams (whom are perenially in debt), the slovakian nations who only a few years ago were a war zone
and of course, the spanish whom just dont give a s**t |
Not sure if Slovakia was a war zone "A Few Years Ago"
The Balkan Nations were.....
But not Slovakia
Definitely not Slovakia |  | | |
| EU contributions by country on 19:07 - Mar 31 with 3012 views | vapour_trail |
| EU contributions by country on 19:02 - Mar 31 by MJallday |
so i have a solution to this entire thing
according to
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/0/how-much-do-we-spend-on-the-eu-and-what-else-c
we pay 12.9 billion a year net into europe. (after contribs)
so what we say to them is "we'll pay that for the next 5 years, providing we still have access to the same trade routes" - we're out, but we'll still pay it.
it costs us nothing extra
theyve got 5 years to con some other nation out of it
we get the trade deal for at least 5 more years and that buys us time to get in bed with the indians/chineese/rusians/us / emerging nations
everyones happy. seems pretty simple to me. |
I'd sooner trust Boris Johnson on Brexit than anything pulled from the telegraph. | |
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| EU contributions by country on 19:09 - Mar 31 with 2998 views | Archer4721 |
We are now a low wage,foodbank society which will become a tax haven for the rich and we will end up like Brazil. [Post edited 31 Mar 2017 19:13]
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| EU contributions by country on 19:11 - Mar 31 with 2977 views | Lord_Lucan |
| EU contributions by country on 19:05 - Mar 31 by J2BLUE |
I was sure you posted that you were voting out at one stage. Apologies if I am wrong. |
Apology accepted.
Not me, it's cost me thousands | |
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| EU contributions by country on 19:13 - Mar 31 with 2952 views | J2BLUE |
| EU contributions by country on 19:11 - Mar 31 by Lord_Lucan |
Apology accepted.
Not me, it's cost me thousands |
Cheers, my bad. | |
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| EU contributions by country on 19:16 - Mar 31 with 2938 views | Binner |
| EU contributions by country on 19:07 - Mar 31 by vapour_trail |
I'd sooner trust Boris Johnson on Brexit than anything pulled from the telegraph. |
What?
We'll suddenly be able to dance the samba and be good at football?
Edit: Oops; this was meant to be in reply to Archer. [Post edited 31 Mar 2017 22:37]
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