| The useful idiot part 1578 on 18:12 - Feb 15 with 3193 views | eireblue |
| The useful idiot part 1578 on 17:56 - Feb 15 by GlasgowBlue |
You are not saying he is a right winger. Somebody else did and you have taken his/her word for it without even bothering to see if Prof Glees is qualified or not to comment on today's allegations.
You are then attempting to suggest that his critique of Mr Corbyn's behaviour is politically motivated rather than from a position of authority.
You also said Prof Glees slated Mr Corbyn. He didn't "slate him". Let's see what he said:
These files show Jeremy Corbyn had been targeted by Czech intelligence services.
Do you dispute that statement? The files show that he was indeed targeted.
Mr Corbyn says he didn’t know, but it shows breathtaking naivete from someone who wants to head the British government.
Do you dispute that during the cold war it was extremely naive for a back bench MP with no connection to the communist state of Czechoslovakia to meet with a "diplomat" from said state. Especially as MP's are made aware that the foreign security service agents enter the country under the guise of a diplomat?
These files show there was contact between Corbyn and a Czech intelligence official, even if he did not know it.
Do you dispute this? Corbyn's office has accpeted the meeting took place but deny knowing the diplomat was a spy.
At the time dissidents were under attack and being imprisoned in Czechoslovakia. In the struggle between the dissidents who were trying to overthrow the communist government and the Czech government, Corbyn is working on the side of the Czech government.
If he has indeed passed information to the spy then this can't be disputed. Corbyn has said he has not passed "privileged" information to the spy. He doesnt say he didnt pass any information to him
The Czechs were interested in anti-communists and they are using Corbyn for immediate operational information useful to them.”
Again the files reveal that is exactly what they were doing with Corbyn, whether he was aware of it or not.
So what part of Prof Glees words do you think shows any type of right wing bias? Where has he slated Corbyn? Do you agree with Prod Glees that at best Corbyn was "naive"? [Post edited 15 Feb 2018 17:57]
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I have to say, this line made me laugh
"Corbyn's office has accepted the meeting took place but deny knowing the diplomat was a spy."
I thought, apart from James Bond, even in fiction, most spies like to keep the fact they are spies, well..... sort of hidden.
"Okay shall we start the meeting with a round of introductions."
"Yes, hello, I am Sergie the sp....sorry, diplomat, phew that was close."
When diplomats enter the UK, I wonder what do they call themselves, "Diplomat, no honestly, proper diplomat, specialising in vacuum cleaner trade talks". |  | |  |
| The useful idiot part 1578 on 18:14 - Feb 15 with 3188 views | GlasgowBlue |
| The useful idiot part 1578 on 18:12 - Feb 15 by eireblue |
I have to say, this line made me laugh
"Corbyn's office has accepted the meeting took place but deny knowing the diplomat was a spy."
I thought, apart from James Bond, even in fiction, most spies like to keep the fact they are spies, well..... sort of hidden.
"Okay shall we start the meeting with a round of introductions."
"Yes, hello, I am Sergie the sp....sorry, diplomat, phew that was close."
When diplomats enter the UK, I wonder what do they call themselves, "Diplomat, no honestly, proper diplomat, specialising in vacuum cleaner trade talks". |
Has a Cultural Attache ever really been a Cultural Attache do you think? |  |
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| The useful idiot part 1578 on 18:26 - Feb 15 with 3169 views | eireblue |
| The useful idiot part 1578 on 18:14 - Feb 15 by GlasgowBlue |
Has a Cultural Attache ever really been a Cultural Attache do you think? |
Of the ones I know, they do seem to represent their culture quite well.
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| The useful idiot part 1578 on 18:54 - Feb 15 with 3147 views | J2BLUE |
| The useful idiot part 1578 on 16:34 - Feb 15 by GlasgowBlue |
Calm down mate. I could care less whether you give some back to him. He's big enough and ugly enough to look after himself. I'm just saying that I'm not sure why he would be called my lapdog considering our views differ on quite a few subjects.
Blimey people are touchy on here these days. |
I wonder how many of the arguments on here are people reading things the wrong way. My post was perfectly calm. I can see why you might have read it differently though.
Not saying you have any responsibility for Benters, it's not your fault he has latched on to you. |  |
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| The useful idiot part 1578 on 18:57 - Feb 15 with 3137 views | GlasgowBlue |
| The useful idiot part 1578 on 18:54 - Feb 15 by J2BLUE |
I wonder how many of the arguments on here are people reading things the wrong way. My post was perfectly calm. I can see why you might have read it differently though.
Not saying you have any responsibility for Benters, it's not your fault he has latched on to you. |
Has he? I need to work a bit harder to get you to latch on to me mate ;-) | |
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| The useful idiot part 1578 on 18:58 - Feb 15 with 3129 views | J2BLUE |
| The useful idiot part 1578 on 18:57 - Feb 15 by GlasgowBlue |
Has he? I need to work a bit harder to get you to latch on to me mate ;-) |
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| The useful idiot part 1578 on 20:25 - Feb 15 with 3086 views | GlasgowBlue |
You think that the Czech security services turned over the files on Corbyn to the Sun, who in turn launched an investigation into the allegations, just as a distraction because a politician may or may not have been porking a female colleague over 14 years ago? | |
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| The useful idiot part 1578 on 20:26 - Feb 15 with 3085 views | mrshallisfit |
| The useful idiot part 1578 on 15:35 - Feb 15 by GlasgowBlue |
Benters and I have different views and opinions on many things. I'm sure he wouldn't like to be referred to as my lapdog. I'm not sure why people are giving him that tag. |
No. I give the title "Steak and Chips" |  | | |
| The useful idiot part 1578 on 20:37 - Feb 15 with 3075 views | brazil1982 |
Until recently Corbyn has been a third-rate backbencher who has never achieved anything of worth. Only now are we learning of his anti-British past where he mixed with some very distasteful characters.
Unfortunately a lot of the electorate will see him as a "loveable rogue" and won't give a jot about his traitorous opinions. | | | |
| The useful idiot part 1578 on 20:45 - Feb 15 with 3064 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| The useful idiot part 1578 on 17:56 - Feb 15 by GlasgowBlue |
You are not saying he is a right winger. Somebody else did and you have taken his/her word for it without even bothering to see if Prof Glees is qualified or not to comment on today's allegations.
You are then attempting to suggest that his critique of Mr Corbyn's behaviour is politically motivated rather than from a position of authority.
You also said Prof Glees slated Mr Corbyn. He didn't "slate him". Let's see what he said:
These files show Jeremy Corbyn had been targeted by Czech intelligence services.
Do you dispute that statement? The files show that he was indeed targeted.
Mr Corbyn says he didn’t know, but it shows breathtaking naivete from someone who wants to head the British government.
Do you dispute that during the cold war it was extremely naive for a back bench MP with no connection to the communist state of Czechoslovakia to meet with a "diplomat" from said state. Especially as MP's are made aware that the foreign security service agents enter the country under the guise of a diplomat?
These files show there was contact between Corbyn and a Czech intelligence official, even if he did not know it.
Do you dispute this? Corbyn's office has accpeted the meeting took place but deny knowing the diplomat was a spy.
At the time dissidents were under attack and being imprisoned in Czechoslovakia. In the struggle between the dissidents who were trying to overthrow the communist government and the Czech government, Corbyn is working on the side of the Czech government.
If he has indeed passed information to the spy then this can't be disputed. Corbyn has said he has not passed "privileged" information to the spy. He doesnt say he didnt pass any information to him
The Czechs were interested in anti-communists and they are using Corbyn for immediate operational information useful to them.”
Again the files reveal that is exactly what they were doing with Corbyn, whether he was aware of it or not.
So what part of Prof Glees words do you think shows any type of right wing bias? Where has he slated Corbyn? Do you agree with Prod Glees that at best Corbyn was "naive"? [Post edited 15 Feb 2018 17:57]
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Do you have access to a full and comprehensive list ofall the politicians that this diplomat spoke to? While you're getting hold of that can we also have full documentation of Maggie and family's contacts with Mr Pinochet? Thanks?
Edit..we may need a useful fool part 1578(b) before long. [Post edited 15 Feb 2018 20:48]
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| The useful idiot part 1578 on 20:48 - Feb 15 with 3060 views | GlasgowBlue |
| The useful idiot part 1578 on 20:37 - Feb 15 by brazil1982 |
Until recently Corbyn has been a third-rate backbencher who has never achieved anything of worth. Only now are we learning of his anti-British past where he mixed with some very distasteful characters.
Unfortunately a lot of the electorate will see him as a "loveable rogue" and won't give a jot about his traitorous opinions. |
I have no doubt that this will not cut through. The majority of his fan boys have had there heads in the sand over his past dodgy dealings. Why should they take not of this.
If they were willing to ignore his support for the IRA, donations to holocaust deniers, laying a wreath at the grave of a Palestinian terrorist involved in the Munich massacre of Israeli athletes at the Olympic games, calling agents of Hamas ‘friends’, taking money from Iran etc then this won't make the blind bit of difference.
To a new generation of voters none of the above means anything
Personally I blame Blair and the invasion of Iraq. Since then it seems that we now see ourselves and the west as the bad guys so therefore Corbyn must be on the right side. | |
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| The useful idiot part 1578 on 20:50 - Feb 15 with 3057 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| The useful idiot part 1578 on 20:25 - Feb 15 by GlasgowBlue |
You think that the Czech security services turned over the files on Corbyn to the Sun, who in turn launched an investigation into the allegations, just as a distraction because a politician may or may not have been porking a female colleague over 14 years ago? |
?.....I was referring to distraction from the current government's incompetence. | |
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| The useful idiot part 1578 on 20:51 - Feb 15 with 3052 views | GlasgowBlue |
| The useful idiot part 1578 on 20:50 - Feb 15 by BanksterDebtSlave |
?.....I was referring to distraction from the current government's incompetence. |
But you linked a story from the Guardian that only refers to Gavin Williamson using this story as a distraction from his personal problems.
Perhaps read the link you are going to post so it ties in with your conspiracy theory? [Post edited 15 Feb 2018 20:52]
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| The useful idiot part 1578 on 20:53 - Feb 15 with 3048 views | GlasgowBlue |
| The useful idiot part 1578 on 20:45 - Feb 15 by BanksterDebtSlave |
Do you have access to a full and comprehensive list ofall the politicians that this diplomat spoke to? While you're getting hold of that can we also have full documentation of Maggie and family's contacts with Mr Pinochet? Thanks?
Edit..we may need a useful fool part 1578(b) before long. [Post edited 15 Feb 2018 20:48]
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Are you wishing to indulge in some whatabouterry Banksy?
If so then Fred has beaten you to it. Several times. [Post edited 15 Feb 2018 20:53]
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| The useful idiot part 1578 on 21:00 - Feb 15 with 3040 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| The useful idiot part 1578 on 20:53 - Feb 15 by GlasgowBlue |
Are you wishing to indulge in some whatabouterry Banksy?
If so then Fred has beaten you to it. Several times. [Post edited 15 Feb 2018 20:53]
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I thought it only fair as within this post you have had to indulge in layers of whataboutery as the scandal level of the original story has gradually dissipated.
So if Pinochet is too painful how about just a list of the diplomats other meetings with politicians. | |
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| The useful idiot part 1578 on 21:00 - Feb 15 with 3037 views | GlasgowBlue |
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| The useful idiot part 1578 on 21:09 - Feb 15 with 3025 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| The useful idiot part 1578 on 21:00 - Feb 15 by BanksterDebtSlave |
I thought it only fair as within this post you have had to indulge in layers of whataboutery as the scandal level of the original story has gradually dissipated.
So if Pinochet is too painful how about just a list of the diplomats other meetings with politicians. |
A straight "no" will suffice! | |
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| The useful idiot part 1578 on 21:17 - Feb 15 with 3019 views | BrixtonBlue |
| The useful idiot part 1578 on 17:56 - Feb 15 by GlasgowBlue |
You are not saying he is a right winger. Somebody else did and you have taken his/her word for it without even bothering to see if Prof Glees is qualified or not to comment on today's allegations.
You are then attempting to suggest that his critique of Mr Corbyn's behaviour is politically motivated rather than from a position of authority.
You also said Prof Glees slated Mr Corbyn. He didn't "slate him". Let's see what he said:
These files show Jeremy Corbyn had been targeted by Czech intelligence services.
Do you dispute that statement? The files show that he was indeed targeted.
Mr Corbyn says he didn’t know, but it shows breathtaking naivete from someone who wants to head the British government.
Do you dispute that during the cold war it was extremely naive for a back bench MP with no connection to the communist state of Czechoslovakia to meet with a "diplomat" from said state. Especially as MP's are made aware that the foreign security service agents enter the country under the guise of a diplomat?
These files show there was contact between Corbyn and a Czech intelligence official, even if he did not know it.
Do you dispute this? Corbyn's office has accpeted the meeting took place but deny knowing the diplomat was a spy.
At the time dissidents were under attack and being imprisoned in Czechoslovakia. In the struggle between the dissidents who were trying to overthrow the communist government and the Czech government, Corbyn is working on the side of the Czech government.
If he has indeed passed information to the spy then this can't be disputed. Corbyn has said he has not passed "privileged" information to the spy. He doesnt say he didnt pass any information to him
The Czechs were interested in anti-communists and they are using Corbyn for immediate operational information useful to them.”
Again the files reveal that is exactly what they were doing with Corbyn, whether he was aware of it or not.
So what part of Prof Glees words do you think shows any type of right wing bias? Where has he slated Corbyn? Do you agree with Prod Glees that at best Corbyn was "naive"? [Post edited 15 Feb 2018 17:57]
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Glassers, sorry mate, I really can't be bothered with one of your essay posts. Sorry I said 'slated'. Maybe 'criticised' should've been better. Are you disputing he's right wing? It doesn't matter who said it, just is it the case? Yes or no? |  |
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| The useful idiot part 1578 on 21:17 - Feb 15 with 3020 views | brazil1982 |
I thought the Pinochet affair was because of his assistance during the Falklands War, or am I incorrect? | | | |
| The useful idiot part 1578 on 21:19 - Feb 15 with 3016 views | BrixtonBlue |
What has Iran got to do with this?
Re your last sentence, grow up Glassers. | |
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| The useful idiot part 1578 on 21:21 - Feb 15 with 3009 views | BrixtonBlue |
| The useful idiot part 1578 on 18:14 - Feb 15 by GlasgowBlue |
Has a Cultural Attache ever really been a Cultural Attache do you think? |
And do they have a Cultural Attache case? | |
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| The useful idiot part 1578 on 21:30 - Feb 15 with 2989 views | GlasgowBlue |
Perhaps you can remind us all hat sort of security threat Pinochet posed to the United Kingdom? | |
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