| The useful idiot part 1578 on 15:14 - Feb 15 with 3308 views | No9 |
| The useful idiot part 1578 on 14:47 - Feb 15 by BrixtonBlue |
We've established he met a diplomat. There's no proof he knew said diplomat was a spy and no proof Corbyn was either. That's it. If any of this *is* proven then yes, he should not only resign, he should be investigated for criminality. |
To be candid, these doc's prove nothing on a computer screen- could have been made by a junior in a back office. |  | |  |
| The useful idiot part 1578 on 15:15 - Feb 15 with 3296 views | SpruceMoose |
| The useful idiot part 1578 on 15:14 - Feb 15 by No9 |
To be candid, these doc's prove nothing on a computer screen- could have been made by a junior in a back office. |
Might be wise for the authorities to look into it then? Get an answer, either way. |  |
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| The useful idiot part 1578 on 15:19 - Feb 15 with 3287 views | No9 |
| The useful idiot part 1578 on 15:15 - Feb 15 by SpruceMoose |
Might be wise for the authorities to look into it then? Get an answer, either way. |
As I posted earlier the Sun had a duty to hand these over to the security sevices rather then publish them.
It smacks of the 'Zinoviev Letter' | | | |
| The useful idiot part 1578 on 15:21 - Feb 15 with 3272 views | SpruceMoose |
| The useful idiot part 1578 on 15:19 - Feb 15 by No9 |
As I posted earlier the Sun had a duty to hand these over to the security sevices rather then publish them.
It smacks of the 'Zinoviev Letter' |
Well, it suits their agenda. If they are fake then they've still flung their mud and no doubt that will still stick. If they're genuine, well, then they get to be all' It woz the Sun wot won it'. | |
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| The useful idiot part 1578 on 15:31 - Feb 15 with 3258 views | GlasgowBlue |
| The useful idiot part 1578 on 15:04 - Feb 15 by Beckets |
Did the Governments of both John Major and Tony Blair 'deal' with terrorists/enemies of the United Kingdom in arriving at the Northern Ireland Peace Agreement? Thank goodness they did. |
Hang on a second? Are you seriously comparing two British Prime Ministers of the United Kingdom negotiating with both sides of a conflict to bring about peace with Jeremy Corbyn's support for the IRA when they were murdering British citizens or allegedly passing information to our cold war enemies?
If, in their quest to resolve the Northern Ireland conflict, you can find evidence that either John Major or Tony Blair stood for a minute's silence in honour of dead IRA terrorists who were killed whilst trying to blow up a police station whilst saying he was “happy to commemorate all those who died fighting for an independent Ireland”, protested outside of the Old Bailey at the trial of an IRA murderer who killed 5 British citizens or share a platform with a wanted IRA terrorist who was on the run from security services after murdering a policeman, then I shall conceded your point.
As Seamus Mallon, who was part of the peace process you refer to, said: “I never heard anyone mention Corbyn at all. He very clearly took the side of the IRA and that was incompatible, in my opinion, with working for peace.” |  |
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| The useful idiot part 1578 on 15:35 - Feb 15 with 3250 views | GlasgowBlue |
| The useful idiot part 1578 on 15:11 - Feb 15 by J2BLUE |
You're getting confused again. In your world 'trying to impress = thinking for himself and coming to sensible balanced conclusions'.
Not everyone takes the Benters method of choosing someone to think for them and becoming their sidekick.
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Benters and I have different views and opinions on many things. I'm sure he wouldn't like to be referred to as my lapdog. I'm not sure why people are giving him that tag. | |
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| The useful idiot part 1578 on 15:40 - Feb 15 with 3235 views | SpruceMoose |
| The useful idiot part 1578 on 15:35 - Feb 15 by GlasgowBlue |
Benters and I have different views and opinions on many things. I'm sure he wouldn't like to be referred to as my lapdog. I'm not sure why people are giving him that tag. |
I think only the one poster is - SeaBlu? Unless I have missed others doing so, in which case, consider me mistaken.
I think what some object to is regularly hanging around the periphery of your posts, leaving snarky comments about the people you are debating with. | |
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| The useful idiot part 1578 on 15:41 - Feb 15 with 3240 views | GlasgowBlue |
| The useful idiot part 1578 on 15:40 - Feb 15 by SpruceMoose |
I think only the one poster is - SeaBlu? Unless I have missed others doing so, in which case, consider me mistaken.
I think what some object to is regularly hanging around the periphery of your posts, leaving snarky comments about the people you are debating with. |
I don't have any of seablu's posts available to view. He is hidden away with a couple of other comedy creations. | |
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| The useful idiot part 1578 on 15:44 - Feb 15 with 3230 views | SpruceMoose |
| The useful idiot part 1578 on 15:41 - Feb 15 by GlasgowBlue |
I don't have any of seablu's posts available to view. He is hidden away with a couple of other comedy creations. |
Well anyhow, they are the only poster I've seen making that claim personally. So personally I doubt it is a widespread opinion. | |
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| The useful idiot part 1578 on 15:58 - Feb 15 with 3219 views | Beckets |
| The useful idiot part 1578 on 15:31 - Feb 15 by GlasgowBlue |
Hang on a second? Are you seriously comparing two British Prime Ministers of the United Kingdom negotiating with both sides of a conflict to bring about peace with Jeremy Corbyn's support for the IRA when they were murdering British citizens or allegedly passing information to our cold war enemies?
If, in their quest to resolve the Northern Ireland conflict, you can find evidence that either John Major or Tony Blair stood for a minute's silence in honour of dead IRA terrorists who were killed whilst trying to blow up a police station whilst saying he was “happy to commemorate all those who died fighting for an independent Ireland”, protested outside of the Old Bailey at the trial of an IRA murderer who killed 5 British citizens or share a platform with a wanted IRA terrorist who was on the run from security services after murdering a policeman, then I shall conceded your point.
As Seamus Mallon, who was part of the peace process you refer to, said: “I never heard anyone mention Corbyn at all. He very clearly took the side of the IRA and that was incompatible, in my opinion, with working for peace.” |
The point I was making is that it is the intention behind any dealings which is key and therefore there are circumstances where dealing with these people is necessary to achieve wider aims as was the case with Major and Blair. We are agreed on that I think.
The allegations against Corbyn should be properly investigated and if found true he should be dealt with accordingly through the judicial process. I'm having a fiver to say that doesn't happen. |  | | |
| The useful idiot part 1578 on 16:03 - Feb 15 with 3210 views | GlasgowBlue |
| The useful idiot part 1578 on 15:58 - Feb 15 by Beckets |
The point I was making is that it is the intention behind any dealings which is key and therefore there are circumstances where dealing with these people is necessary to achieve wider aims as was the case with Major and Blair. We are agreed on that I think.
The allegations against Corbyn should be properly investigated and if found true he should be dealt with accordingly through the judicial process. I'm having a fiver to say that doesn't happen. |
The only aim Corbyn was interested in was the same as the IRA. a united Ireland. He voted against the Anglo/Irish Agreement for that very reason. | |
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| The useful idiot part 1578 on 16:06 - Feb 15 with 3205 views | No9 |
| The useful idiot part 1578 on 15:31 - Feb 15 by GlasgowBlue |
Hang on a second? Are you seriously comparing two British Prime Ministers of the United Kingdom negotiating with both sides of a conflict to bring about peace with Jeremy Corbyn's support for the IRA when they were murdering British citizens or allegedly passing information to our cold war enemies?
If, in their quest to resolve the Northern Ireland conflict, you can find evidence that either John Major or Tony Blair stood for a minute's silence in honour of dead IRA terrorists who were killed whilst trying to blow up a police station whilst saying he was “happy to commemorate all those who died fighting for an independent Ireland”, protested outside of the Old Bailey at the trial of an IRA murderer who killed 5 British citizens or share a platform with a wanted IRA terrorist who was on the run from security services after murdering a policeman, then I shall conceded your point.
As Seamus Mallon, who was part of the peace process you refer to, said: “I never heard anyone mention Corbyn at all. He very clearly took the side of the IRA and that was incompatible, in my opinion, with working for peace.” |
You have evidence which would suggest the governemtn of the 80's should have done somthing about Mr Coryn.
They didn't did they?
Maybe you are just cusading?
Once more - go & research the history of the Irish problems | | | |
| The useful idiot part 1578 on 16:31 - Feb 15 with 3185 views | J2BLUE |
| The useful idiot part 1578 on 15:35 - Feb 15 by GlasgowBlue |
Benters and I have different views and opinions on many things. I'm sure he wouldn't like to be referred to as my lapdog. I'm not sure why people are giving him that tag. |
I don't really care what he likes. If he can make comments about other people then it's fair to get some comments back. Only saying what I see. |  |
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| The useful idiot part 1578 on 16:34 - Feb 15 with 3178 views | jaykay |
he should be tried as a spy if he passed secrets to them.
Professor Anthony Glees right winger pity the sun didnt find a better expert.
he has anti Semitic views and think the government should be able to lock up people without a trial
i think profumo only resigned after he lied to parliment |  |
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| The useful idiot part 1578 on 16:34 - Feb 15 with 3176 views | GlasgowBlue |
| The useful idiot part 1578 on 16:31 - Feb 15 by J2BLUE |
I don't really care what he likes. If he can make comments about other people then it's fair to get some comments back. Only saying what I see. |
Calm down mate. I could care less whether you give some back to him. He's big enough and ugly enough to look after himself. I'm just saying that I'm not sure why he would be called my lapdog considering our views differ on quite a few subjects.
Blimey people are touchy on here these days. | |
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| The useful idiot part 1578 on 16:42 - Feb 15 with 3167 views | GlasgowBlue |
| The useful idiot part 1578 on 16:34 - Feb 15 by jaykay |
he should be tried as a spy if he passed secrets to them.
Professor Anthony Glees right winger pity the sun didnt find a better expert.
he has anti Semitic views and think the government should be able to lock up people without a trial
i think profumo only resigned after he lied to parliment |
I can't find any views of his that are antisemitic but I stand to be corrected. The only result from a google search gives this article from the Jerusalem Post, hardly known for their antisemitic editorial tone, which quotes "This stands in sharp contrast to the report published this week by Prof. Anthony Glees of Brunel University, which warns of the rise in extremism on campuses, and gives testimony to the anti-Semitic activities of prominent groups".
http://www.jpost.com/Opinion/The-First-Word-The-British-Jewish-agenda | |
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| The useful idiot part 1578 on 17:09 - Feb 15 with 3146 views | BrixtonBlue |
| The useful idiot part 1578 on 16:34 - Feb 15 by jaykay |
he should be tried as a spy if he passed secrets to them.
Professor Anthony Glees right winger pity the sun didnt find a better expert.
he has anti Semitic views and think the government should be able to lock up people without a trial
i think profumo only resigned after he lied to parliment |
So their expert slating Corbyn is a right winger? Quelle surprise. |  |
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| The useful idiot part 1578 on 17:13 - Feb 15 with 3139 views | GlasgowBlue |
| The useful idiot part 1578 on 17:09 - Feb 15 by BrixtonBlue |
So their expert slating Corbyn is a right winger? Quelle surprise. |
I think he's a little more qualified on issues of security than you or I Dollers.
Here is his CV
https://www.buckingham.ac.uk/directory/professor-anthony-glees/
Why don't you put your credentials next to his and we shall see who is more credible to make a judgement on Jezza's behaviour. | |
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| The useful idiot part 1578 on 17:36 - Feb 15 with 3117 views | eireblue |
Argument from authority (Latin: argumentum ad verecundiam), also called the appeal to authority, is a common form of argument which leads to a logical fallacy. The appeal to authority relies on an argument of the form:
A is an authority on a particular topic
A says something about that topic
A is probably correct |  | | |
| The useful idiot part 1578 on 17:42 - Feb 15 with 3105 views | BrixtonBlue |
i've not dissed his credentials or claimed anything about mine. I'm saying he's a right winger. Corbyn's a left winger. You don't see any conflict of interest there? | |
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| The useful idiot part 1578 on 17:44 - Feb 15 with 3098 views | SpruceMoose |
| The useful idiot part 1578 on 16:31 - Feb 15 by J2BLUE |
I don't really care what he likes. If he can make comments about other people then it's fair to get some comments back. Only saying what I see. |
Woah. Are you insane? You, never go full Roy Walker. | |
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| The useful idiot part 1578 on 17:56 - Feb 15 with 3090 views | GlasgowBlue |
| The useful idiot part 1578 on 17:42 - Feb 15 by BrixtonBlue |
i've not dissed his credentials or claimed anything about mine. I'm saying he's a right winger. Corbyn's a left winger. You don't see any conflict of interest there? |
You are not saying he is a right winger. Somebody else did and you have taken his/her word for it without even bothering to see if Prof Glees is qualified or not to comment on today's allegations.
You are then attempting to suggest that his critique of Mr Corbyn's behaviour is politically motivated rather than from a position of authority.
You also said Prof Glees slated Mr Corbyn. He didn't "slate him". Let's see what he said:
These files show Jeremy Corbyn had been targeted by Czech intelligence services.
Do you dispute that statement? The files show that he was indeed targeted.
Mr Corbyn says he didn’t know, but it shows breathtaking naivete from someone who wants to head the British government.
Do you dispute that during the cold war it was extremely naive for a back bench MP with no connection to the communist state of Czechoslovakia to meet with a "diplomat" from said state. Especially as MP's are made aware that the foreign security service agents enter the country under the guise of a diplomat?
These files show there was contact between Corbyn and a Czech intelligence official, even if he did not know it.
Do you dispute this? Corbyn's office has accpeted the meeting took place but deny knowing the diplomat was a spy.
At the time dissidents were under attack and being imprisoned in Czechoslovakia. In the struggle between the dissidents who were trying to overthrow the communist government and the Czech government, Corbyn is working on the side of the Czech government.
If he has indeed passed information to the spy then this can't be disputed. Corbyn has said he has not passed "privileged" information to the spy. He doesnt say he didnt pass any information to him
The Czechs were interested in anti-communists and they are using Corbyn for immediate operational information useful to them.”
Again the files reveal that is exactly what they were doing with Corbyn, whether he was aware of it or not.
So what part of Prof Glees words do you think shows any type of right wing bias? Where has he slated Corbyn? Do you agree with Prod Glees that at best Corbyn was "naive"? [Post edited 15 Feb 2018 17:57]
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| The useful idiot part 1578 on 18:07 - Feb 15 with 3081 views | BloomBlue |
He has some strange friends. I'm not sure the story is true but if it is he should resign |  | | |
| The useful idiot part 1578 on 18:10 - Feb 15 with 3073 views | Freddies_Ears |
| The useful idiot part 1578 on 18:07 - Feb 15 by BloomBlue |
He has some strange friends. I'm not sure the story is true but if it is he should resign |
He is utterly unfit for high office for a myriad of reasons. But then again, May, Gove, Johnson and Foxwerrity are equally unfit, as their actions and words demonstrate. | | | |
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