My god, just read this - shocking, shocking, shocking - on 09:35 - Nov 17 with 3944 views | Swansea_Blue | If people had any sense they’d listen to this. Never mind Brexit (although that won’t help), when people keep voting for the Tories they are an accessory to the suffering. We’ve known for ages the Tories are “punitive, mean-spirited, and often callous”. And continue to be so judging by their denial of the things in this UN report. It’s an embarrassment frankly. | |
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My god, just read this - shocking, shocking, shocking - on 09:45 - Nov 17 with 3921 views | sparks | Sounds like an error rather than an illustration of an unfair system... That said, the system is clearly problematic and is a long way from way IDS initially planned. | |
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My god, just read this - shocking, shocking, shocking - on 09:49 - Nov 17 with 3909 views | BrixtonBlue |
My god, just read this - shocking, shocking, shocking - on 09:45 - Nov 17 by sparks | Sounds like an error rather than an illustration of an unfair system... That said, the system is clearly problematic and is a long way from way IDS initially planned. |
I'd love to stick the boot into the Tories, obvs, but I have to agree with you here. Sounds like an error. And I have to say, I've had an excellent experience with Universal Credit since I got made redundant in May. | |
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My god, just read this - shocking, shocking, shocking - on 09:57 - Nov 17 with 3892 views | Lord_Lucan |
My god, just read this - shocking, shocking, shocking - on 09:49 - Nov 17 by BrixtonBlue | I'd love to stick the boot into the Tories, obvs, but I have to agree with you here. Sounds like an error. And I have to say, I've had an excellent experience with Universal Credit since I got made redundant in May. |
Have you been sacked Dolly? | |
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My god, just read this - shocking, shocking, shocking - on 10:00 - Nov 17 with 3887 views | slump |
My god, just read this - shocking, shocking, shocking - on 09:49 - Nov 17 by BrixtonBlue | I'd love to stick the boot into the Tories, obvs, but I have to agree with you here. Sounds like an error. And I have to say, I've had an excellent experience with Universal Credit since I got made redundant in May. |
Hold on minute.. You were made redundant and received some redundancy payment I assume? You are capable of work I assume? Yet you are receiving Universal Credit? How does that work? | |
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My god, just read this - shocking, shocking, shocking - on 10:13 - Nov 17 with 3857 views | BrixtonBlue |
My god, just read this - shocking, shocking, shocking - on 09:57 - Nov 17 by Lord_Lucan | Have you been sacked Dolly? |
No made redundant. The clue's in the words, "made redundant". | |
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My god, just read this - shocking, shocking, shocking - on 10:16 - Nov 17 with 3853 views | BrixtonBlue |
My god, just read this - shocking, shocking, shocking - on 10:00 - Nov 17 by slump | Hold on minute.. You were made redundant and received some redundancy payment I assume? You are capable of work I assume? Yet you are receiving Universal Credit? How does that work? |
You get it whilst looking for work... just like the dole. Your savings (i.e. including redundancy money) are taken into account, again just like the dole. It's a pretty well-known thing, I'm surprised you're surprised! | |
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My god, just read this - shocking, shocking, shocking - on 10:16 - Nov 17 with 3848 views | J2BLUE |
My god, just read this - shocking, shocking, shocking - on 09:35 - Nov 17 by Swansea_Blue | If people had any sense they’d listen to this. Never mind Brexit (although that won’t help), when people keep voting for the Tories they are an accessory to the suffering. We’ve known for ages the Tories are “punitive, mean-spirited, and often callous”. And continue to be so judging by their denial of the things in this UN report. It’s an embarrassment frankly. |
Posts like this are fine but who do you vote for if you consider Labour to be an incompetent shambles? | |
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My god, just read this - shocking, shocking, shocking - on 10:18 - Nov 17 with 3840 views | BrixtonBlue |
My god, just read this - shocking, shocking, shocking - on 10:16 - Nov 17 by J2BLUE | Posts like this are fine but who do you vote for if you consider Labour to be an incompetent shambles? |
Take the voting paper, roll it up, and gently insert it into your anus. | |
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My god, just read this - shocking, shocking, shocking - on 10:21 - Nov 17 with 3828 views | J2BLUE |
My god, just read this - shocking, shocking, shocking - on 10:18 - Nov 17 by BrixtonBlue | Take the voting paper, roll it up, and gently insert it into your anus. |
Gently? | |
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My god, just read this - shocking, shocking, shocking - on 10:21 - Nov 17 with 3822 views | Darth_Koont | 5th largest economy. But, within the developed world at least, giving the US a run for its money as being the most tw@ttish and uncaring to its most vulnerable/least valuable citizens. | |
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My god, just read this - shocking, shocking, shocking - on 10:25 - Nov 17 with 3817 views | BrixtonBlue |
My god, just read this - shocking, shocking, shocking - on 10:21 - Nov 17 by J2BLUE | Gently? |
YMMV | |
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My god, just read this - shocking, shocking, shocking - on 10:28 - Nov 17 with 3807 views | slump |
My god, just read this - shocking, shocking, shocking - on 10:16 - Nov 17 by BrixtonBlue | You get it whilst looking for work... just like the dole. Your savings (i.e. including redundancy money) are taken into account, again just like the dole. It's a pretty well-known thing, I'm surprised you're surprised! |
It's been ages now. I'm surprised that you've not found any work and are claiming it. | |
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My god, just read this - shocking, shocking, shocking - on 10:29 - Nov 17 with 3799 views | Darth_Koont |
My god, just read this - shocking, shocking, shocking - on 10:16 - Nov 17 by J2BLUE | Posts like this are fine but who do you vote for if you consider Labour to be an incompetent shambles? |
I think we're seeing incompetent shambles on both sides so that's not an issue. The Tories do seem to be remarkably organised and competent when it comes to shafting the poor, stripping long-term value from our economy for some quick cash AND adding to our debt at the same time. So perhaps just not voting for them is the key here. | |
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My god, just read this - shocking, shocking, shocking - on 10:40 - Nov 17 with 3772 views | BrixtonBlue |
My god, just read this - shocking, shocking, shocking - on 10:28 - Nov 17 by slump | It's been ages now. I'm surprised that you've not found any work and are claiming it. |
I have had some freelance work in that time so didn't get any UC in those months. | |
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My god, just read this - shocking, shocking, shocking - on 10:56 - Nov 17 with 3726 views | slump |
My god, just read this - shocking, shocking, shocking - on 10:40 - Nov 17 by BrixtonBlue | I have had some freelance work in that time so didn't get any UC in those months. |
When I was between jobs (resting really) I tried to claim jobseekers allowance. Because it was so much hassle what with having to prove that you were applying for jobs and attending interviews at the job center. I gave it up as it wasn't worth the grief and I got casual bar work instead. IIRC the job seekers was only about £60 per week | |
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My god, just read this - shocking, shocking, shocking - on 11:00 - Nov 17 with 3714 views | BrixtonBlue |
My god, just read this - shocking, shocking, shocking - on 10:56 - Nov 17 by slump | When I was between jobs (resting really) I tried to claim jobseekers allowance. Because it was so much hassle what with having to prove that you were applying for jobs and attending interviews at the job center. I gave it up as it wasn't worth the grief and I got casual bar work instead. IIRC the job seekers was only about £60 per week |
The worst bit for me was the form filling at the start. Took me best part of a day... then two meetings at the job centre. Since then it's been relatively easy - just have to fill in online what I'm doing to find work and my job centre interviews are now over the phone. | |
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My god, just read this - shocking, shocking, shocking - on 11:08 - Nov 17 with 3692 views | slump |
My god, just read this - shocking, shocking, shocking - on 11:00 - Nov 17 by BrixtonBlue | The worst bit for me was the form filling at the start. Took me best part of a day... then two meetings at the job centre. Since then it's been relatively easy - just have to fill in online what I'm doing to find work and my job centre interviews are now over the phone. |
I always thought that the reason to attend in person was so that you could prove that you weren't working (at least on that day). What's to stop you getting a cash paid job and claiming the benefit as well? Seems extremely open to fraud now. | |
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My god, just read this - shocking, shocking, shocking - on 11:10 - Nov 17 with 3684 views | tabletopjoe | Amazing how people confuse ‘austerity’ with ‘actually there’s no money left’ | |
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My god, just read this - shocking, shocking, shocking - on 11:14 - Nov 17 with 3666 views | Deano69 |
My god, just read this - shocking, shocking, shocking - on 10:16 - Nov 17 by J2BLUE | Posts like this are fine but who do you vote for if you consider Labour to be an incompetent shambles? |
I concur. There is sadly no sensible answer. Tough times. | |
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My god, just read this - shocking, shocking, shocking - on 11:16 - Nov 17 with 3657 views | BrixtonBlue |
My god, just read this - shocking, shocking, shocking - on 11:08 - Nov 17 by slump | I always thought that the reason to attend in person was so that you could prove that you weren't working (at least on that day). What's to stop you getting a cash paid job and claiming the benefit as well? Seems extremely open to fraud now. |
I don't think all the interviews are over the phone but my first two have been. Maybe I just have a trustworthy face! But even if you had to go in for a face-to-face interview and had a cash-paid job on the side, I'd imagine you could nip out for that/do it on your break etc. so people will get round the system if they really intend to. | |
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My god, just read this - shocking, shocking, shocking - on 11:24 - Nov 17 with 3634 views | Darth_Koont |
My god, just read this - shocking, shocking, shocking - on 11:10 - Nov 17 by tabletopjoe | Amazing how people confuse ‘austerity’ with ‘actually there’s no money left’ |
Amazing how people confuse ‘actually there’s no money left’ with 'there's no political or moral will left'. Of course, there's money. | |
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My god, just read this - shocking, shocking, shocking - on 11:24 - Nov 17 with 3636 views | WeWereZombies |
My god, just read this - shocking, shocking, shocking - on 11:10 - Nov 17 by tabletopjoe | Amazing how people confuse ‘austerity’ with ‘actually there’s no money left’ |
If there was no money left then the system would stop working, however there is plenty of financial activity but it is often distributed unjustly. And why don't you show a bit of truthfulness and go back to your BlueOyster avatar so everybody knows your approach? | |
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My god, just read this - shocking, shocking, shocking - on 11:31 - Nov 17 with 3610 views | sparks |
My god, just read this - shocking, shocking, shocking - on 11:00 - Nov 17 by BrixtonBlue | The worst bit for me was the form filling at the start. Took me best part of a day... then two meetings at the job centre. Since then it's been relatively easy - just have to fill in online what I'm doing to find work and my job centre interviews are now over the phone. |
One of the biggest issues is that many people are simply incapable of doing the forms properly, or getting their documentation and information together. Add mental health issues into that mix and the result is havoc and evictions. | |
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My god, just read this - shocking, shocking, shocking - on 11:37 - Nov 17 with 3591 views | GeoffSentence |
My god, just read this - shocking, shocking, shocking - on 10:16 - Nov 17 by J2BLUE | Posts like this are fine but who do you vote for if you consider Labour to be an incompetent shambles? |
Greens, Lib Dems... there are other choices. | |
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