| Happy draft day 13:27 - Apr 25 with 4338 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
A great Thursday night party.
Do the Cardinals take Murray?! Do the Giants finally take a QB? Do the Raiders do something mental with all their picks? Do the Skins mortgage their future for Haskins?
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| Happy draft day on 13:30 - Apr 25 with 3490 views | jjblue84 |
Funny how America, land of the free market, runs a socialist system of sport! |  | | |
| Happy draft day on 13:31 - Apr 25 with 3491 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| Happy draft day on 13:30 - Apr 25 by jjblue84 |
Funny how America, land of the free market, runs a socialist system of sport! |
One of the best things about the sport, keeps it very interesting. | | | |
| Happy draft day on 13:32 - Apr 25 with 3488 views | TractorCam |
As a fairweather supporter who never follows the draft, how do you fancy Steelers chances here? Given we've just lost 2 massive players. |  |
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| Happy draft day on 13:34 - Apr 25 with 3475 views | footers |
Trump's reintroduced conscription?
Bloody hell, these trade wars will take a generation of our young men. |  |
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| Happy draft day on 13:38 - Apr 25 with 3462 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| Happy draft day on 13:32 - Apr 25 by TractorCam |
As a fairweather supporter who never follows the draft, how do you fancy Steelers chances here? Given we've just lost 2 massive players. |
This draft has great WR depth without having super star talent so you can definitely pick up someone decent at WR tomorrow night with a 2nd or 3rd round pick. Same with RB really, don't forget the likes of Kamara in recent years didn't even go first round.
There is elite defense on the board tonight. Considering they are picking at 20 I think the Steelers will take an inside linebacker, a position of need. They could end up with someone like Devin Bush out of Michigan who will be a difference maker and day 1 starter. [Post edited 25 Apr 2019 13:39]
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| Happy draft day on 14:24 - Apr 25 with 3413 views | HARRY10 |
or you could watch paint dry if your prefer something a bit more exciting |  | | |
| Happy draft day on 14:41 - Apr 25 with 3396 views | itfcjoe |
For some reason i think that Murray will end up at the Raiders - whether they trade up or he drops I haven't decided as yet!
For my Vikes, hoping one of the big O Line prospects drops to 18, Dillard and Williams look unlikely to. Taylor might, but hoping that Bradbury does......but after his combine not so confident he will.
Fear is all the top 15-20 ranked O Line go early, and we are in a position where we either need to reach or go for the D Line as so much talent and then miss the run on interior O Linemen like we did last year and be scrambling around in the 2nd. If it gets to that stage I'd rather trade back than pick up another D Lineman. |  |
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| Happy draft day on 14:45 - Apr 25 with 3386 views | PrideOfTheEast |
Football over here should follow suit.
Fact:- I've watched more of the draft (by virtue of being in a bar in Minneapolis on business once) than actual American Football! | | | |
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| Happy draft day on 14:48 - Apr 25 with 3369 views | factual_blue |
| Happy draft day on 13:34 - Apr 25 by footers |
Trump's reintroduced conscription?
Bloody hell, these trade wars will take a generation of our young men. |
I think it's more to do with beer.
I won't be dictated to; if I want bottled beer, I'll drink it. |  |
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| Happy draft day on 15:08 - Apr 25 with 3358 views | IpswichKnight |
| Happy draft day on 13:38 - Apr 25 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
This draft has great WR depth without having super star talent so you can definitely pick up someone decent at WR tomorrow night with a 2nd or 3rd round pick. Same with RB really, don't forget the likes of Kamara in recent years didn't even go first round.
There is elite defense on the board tonight. Considering they are picking at 20 I think the Steelers will take an inside linebacker, a position of need. They could end up with someone like Devin Bush out of Michigan who will be a difference maker and day 1 starter. [Post edited 25 Apr 2019 13:39]
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This is why I think the Bills will happily trade down from number 9, they are after weapons for Allen giving them extra picks in round 2 could allow them to get those. Also look out for Indy going after WR or TE another team looking for downfield weapons for there QB. | | | |
| Happy draft day on 15:53 - Apr 25 with 3327 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| Happy draft day on 14:41 - Apr 25 by itfcjoe |
For some reason i think that Murray will end up at the Raiders - whether they trade up or he drops I haven't decided as yet!
For my Vikes, hoping one of the big O Line prospects drops to 18, Dillard and Williams look unlikely to. Taylor might, but hoping that Bradbury does......but after his combine not so confident he will.
Fear is all the top 15-20 ranked O Line go early, and we are in a position where we either need to reach or go for the D Line as so much talent and then miss the run on interior O Linemen like we did last year and be scrambling around in the 2nd. If it gets to that stage I'd rather trade back than pick up another D Lineman. |
How about Howard from Bama? | | | |
| Happy draft day on 15:54 - Apr 25 with 3320 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| Happy draft day on 14:24 - Apr 25 by HARRY10 |
or you could watch paint dry if your prefer something a bit more exciting |
Well if you like the sport it's a very exciting night as it goes.
If you don't then I expect most people probably don't bother clicking on threads about it and posting unless they have absolutely nothing better to do with their day. | | | |
| Happy draft day on 15:55 - Apr 25 with 3317 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| Happy draft day on 15:08 - Apr 25 by IpswichKnight |
This is why I think the Bills will happily trade down from number 9, they are after weapons for Allen giving them extra picks in round 2 could allow them to get those. Also look out for Indy going after WR or TE another team looking for downfield weapons for there QB. |
T.J. Hockenson is going to be a star at TE. | | | |
| Happy draft day on 15:57 - Apr 25 with 3316 views | itfcjoe |
Day 2 guy isn't he? Personally I think unless we can get one of the big tackles at top of draft (unlikely) we'd be better focussing on the interior.
Reiff isn't the best tackle but he was made to look so bad last year because the Guard alongside him only signed because he was Kirk Cousins' best mate! | |
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| Happy draft day on 15:57 - Apr 25 with 3315 views | GeoffSentence |
I dont follow american sports, but how does this draft idea work? |  |
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| Happy draft day on 16:10 - Apr 25 with 3302 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| Happy draft day on 15:57 - Apr 25 by GeoffSentence |
I dont follow american sports, but how does this draft idea work? |
I'll try and explain at a basic level.
Every April the draft in the NFL occurs. It is based on each teams performance the previous year. E.g the Superbowl winner would have the last pick in each round, the worst place team would have the first pick. There is a huge collegiate eligible pool of talent coming out of colleges across the country every year available for selection. The first round (at least the top 10) should be stars at their position in the NFL. You can also trade with other teams for their picks. Eg if you were picking 15 this year but really wanted a QB that was going to go in the top 3 you could trade your next two years first round picks with that team (just as an example). Imagine a very lively transfer deadline day with lots of variable where money is not the issue and it all happens within a few hours.
First round players should be elite or year 1 starters at a minimum
(the first round is tonight)
Second/third round players should at least be starters (that is tomorrow)
Then over the weekend there is round 4-7.
Here is the picking order this year. The fun part is that each team has 3 minutes to select and lots of trading between teams etc happens. The big advantage of getting a star in the draft is there are on a rookie deal for 4 years which is cheap, you don't have to offer them the big bucks until 3-4 years down the line. Each team has a salary cap so this is important.
It is also interesting that a lot of the top players will fall in the draft because of character concerns nagging injuries etc.
Round 1
1. Arizona Cardinals (10)
2. San Francisco 49ers (6)
3. New York Jets (6)
4. Oakland Raiders (8)
5. Tampa Bay Buccaneers (7)
6. New York Giants (12)
7. Jacksonville Jaguars (7)
8. Detroit Lions (9)
9. Buffalo Bills (10)
10. Denver Broncos (8)
11. Cincinnati Bengals (11)
12. Green Bay Packers (10)
13. Miami Dolphins (7)
14. Atlanta Falcons (9)
15. Washington Redskins (9)
16. Carolina Panthers (7)
17. New York Giants (from Cleveland Browns (8))
18. Minnesota Vikings (8)
19. Tennessee Titans (6)
20. Pittsburgh Steelers (10)
21. Seattle Seahawks (5)
22. Baltimore Ravens (8)
23. Houston Texans (7)
24. Oakland Raiders (from Chicago Bears (5))
25. Philadelphia Eagles (7)
26. Indianapolis Colts (9)
27. Oakland Raiders (from Dallas Cowboys (6))
28. Los Angeles Chargers (7)
29. Seattle Seahawks (from Kansas City Chiefs (7))
30. Green Bay Packers (from New Orleans Saints (6))
31. Los Angeles Rams (7)
32. New England Patriots (12) [Post edited 25 Apr 2019 16:12]
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| Happy draft day on 16:16 - Apr 25 with 3270 views | Illinoisblue |
as much as I like watching the NFL, I find the hoopla around the Draft incredibly boring. For days now ESPN have had experts on telling us who's going to get picked when, and by who, and in which round. Hardly any of these college stars will be be seen playing anytime soon. Unlike footy where a 16-year-old Rooney or Owen can burst on the scene and become a star. |  |
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| Happy draft day on 00:23 - Apr 26 with 3165 views | britbiker |
If only we had a draft system. we would be picking first. Would give us something to look forward to. I think Marcus would trade our pick for loads of round four picks.
Big draft for the raiders. LiAds of picjs but loads of gaps to fill. |  | | |
| Happy draft day on 07:20 - Apr 26 with 3100 views | TractorCam |
| Happy draft day on 13:38 - Apr 25 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
This draft has great WR depth without having super star talent so you can definitely pick up someone decent at WR tomorrow night with a 2nd or 3rd round pick. Same with RB really, don't forget the likes of Kamara in recent years didn't even go first round.
There is elite defense on the board tonight. Considering they are picking at 20 I think the Steelers will take an inside linebacker, a position of need. They could end up with someone like Devin Bush out of Michigan who will be a difference maker and day 1 starter. [Post edited 25 Apr 2019 13:39]
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How about that you were right, and we traded 3 pick slots to select him in number 10. They must truly believe he's special. | |
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| Happy draft day on 09:58 - Apr 26 with 3056 views | GeoffSentence |
| Happy draft day on 16:10 - Apr 25 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
I'll try and explain at a basic level.
Every April the draft in the NFL occurs. It is based on each teams performance the previous year. E.g the Superbowl winner would have the last pick in each round, the worst place team would have the first pick. There is a huge collegiate eligible pool of talent coming out of colleges across the country every year available for selection. The first round (at least the top 10) should be stars at their position in the NFL. You can also trade with other teams for their picks. Eg if you were picking 15 this year but really wanted a QB that was going to go in the top 3 you could trade your next two years first round picks with that team (just as an example). Imagine a very lively transfer deadline day with lots of variable where money is not the issue and it all happens within a few hours.
First round players should be elite or year 1 starters at a minimum
(the first round is tonight)
Second/third round players should at least be starters (that is tomorrow)
Then over the weekend there is round 4-7.
Here is the picking order this year. The fun part is that each team has 3 minutes to select and lots of trading between teams etc happens. The big advantage of getting a star in the draft is there are on a rookie deal for 4 years which is cheap, you don't have to offer them the big bucks until 3-4 years down the line. Each team has a salary cap so this is important.
It is also interesting that a lot of the top players will fall in the draft because of character concerns nagging injuries etc.
Round 1
1. Arizona Cardinals (10)
2. San Francisco 49ers (6)
3. New York Jets (6)
4. Oakland Raiders (8)
5. Tampa Bay Buccaneers (7)
6. New York Giants (12)
7. Jacksonville Jaguars (7)
8. Detroit Lions (9)
9. Buffalo Bills (10)
10. Denver Broncos (8)
11. Cincinnati Bengals (11)
12. Green Bay Packers (10)
13. Miami Dolphins (7)
14. Atlanta Falcons (9)
15. Washington Redskins (9)
16. Carolina Panthers (7)
17. New York Giants (from Cleveland Browns (8))
18. Minnesota Vikings (8)
19. Tennessee Titans (6)
20. Pittsburgh Steelers (10)
21. Seattle Seahawks (5)
22. Baltimore Ravens (8)
23. Houston Texans (7)
24. Oakland Raiders (from Chicago Bears (5))
25. Philadelphia Eagles (7)
26. Indianapolis Colts (9)
27. Oakland Raiders (from Dallas Cowboys (6))
28. Los Angeles Chargers (7)
29. Seattle Seahawks (from Kansas City Chiefs (7))
30. Green Bay Packers (from New Orleans Saints (6))
31. Los Angeles Rams (7)
32. New England Patriots (12) [Post edited 25 Apr 2019 16:12]
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Don't the players get any say in this? What if they don't want to play for the Packers, for instance, because they play in yellow and green? How about pay? Can't the players negotiate their own pay? | |
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| Happy draft day on 10:27 - Apr 26 with 3044 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
| Happy draft day on 13:38 - Apr 25 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
This draft has great WR depth without having super star talent so you can definitely pick up someone decent at WR tomorrow night with a 2nd or 3rd round pick. Same with RB really, don't forget the likes of Kamara in recent years didn't even go first round.
There is elite defense on the board tonight. Considering they are picking at 20 I think the Steelers will take an inside linebacker, a position of need. They could end up with someone like Devin Bush out of Michigan who will be a difference maker and day 1 starter. [Post edited 25 Apr 2019 13:39]
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Great shouts all round reading through this, fair play
What do you make of Haskins? Obviously a need for you guys and great news that you didn’t have to trade up to get him - do you rate him though? Personally I can’t say I’m convinced having watched Ohio St quite a bit, which probably means he’ll do alright! |  |
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| Happy draft day on 10:29 - Apr 26 with 3038 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
| Happy draft day on 09:58 - Apr 26 by GeoffSentence |
Don't the players get any say in this? What if they don't want to play for the Packers, for instance, because they play in yellow and green? How about pay? Can't the players negotiate their own pay? |
They don’t get any say in who picks them but they can refuse to play. This has actually happened a few times - notably Elway and Kelly in the 80’s (Elway was traded whilst Kelly did eventually play for the Bills about a year later, spent his career there and became a legend), and Eli Manning in 2004 who the Chargers still drafted and then got a ransom from the Giants | |
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| Happy draft day on 10:32 - Apr 26 with 3030 views | GeoffSentence |
| Happy draft day on 10:29 - Apr 26 by C_HealyIsAPleasure |
They don’t get any say in who picks them but they can refuse to play. This has actually happened a few times - notably Elway and Kelly in the 80’s (Elway was traded whilst Kelly did eventually play for the Bills about a year later, spent his career there and became a legend), and Eli Manning in 2004 who the Chargers still drafted and then got a ransom from the Giants |
To someone who has never seen a system like this in sport before, it seems really strange. | |
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| Happy draft day on 10:34 - Apr 26 with 3030 views | IpswichKnight |
| Happy draft day on 09:58 - Apr 26 by GeoffSentence |
Don't the players get any say in this? What if they don't want to play for the Packers, for instance, because they play in yellow and green? How about pay? Can't the players negotiate their own pay? |
Most of the players visit the teams and get a feel for the place and the teams a feel for the player. Teams also do due diligence on players and some really talented players will fall down the draft as the player has outside issues that make teams nervous about drafting them. | | | |
| Happy draft day on 10:51 - Apr 26 with 3015 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
| Happy draft day on 10:32 - Apr 26 by GeoffSentence |
To someone who has never seen a system like this in sport before, it seems really strange. |
It’s genuinely great | |
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