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For all us meat eaters. 18:41 - Jan 31 with 5555 views

My Wife is now vegan. She brought a magazine today and in there was an article on global warming. It claims that the production of meat omits more greenhouse gases than every car, plane and boat in the world. That can't be right, can it?

For all us meat eaters. on 19:40 - Jan 31 with 3066 views

jeera

For all us meat eaters. on 19:37 - Jan 31 by monytowbray
Chickens are great pets. Amazingly a lot of the animals we think are normal to eat are just as cute/fun/social as the ones we consider pets. In fact I’d go as far to sat many animals we eat are no where near as big a d1ck as cats are.

I don't like cats.

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For all us meat eaters. on 19:49 - Jan 31 with 3051 views

monytowbray

For all us meat eaters. on 19:38 - Jan 31 by Ely_Blue
And we all know how bad for the planet soy is don’t we! It’s the next palm oil scandal waiting to happen the amount of land that is being taken over to plant soy (that’s without mentioning the GMO aspect and what that could bring further down the line)

Soy has considerably less impact on the environment than meat. That’s a fact. It’s a bit like moaning about someone farting in a lift whilst someone else is taking a sh1t on your shoes.

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For all us meat eaters. on 19:50 - Jan 31 with 3049 views

monytowbray

For all us meat eaters. on 19:40 - Jan 31 by jeera
I don't like cats.

DW, they hate you too. Mine would happily eat me no questions asked if I died alone in my flat and her dinner was an hour later than usual.

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For all us meat eaters. on 19:50 - Jan 31 with 3049 views

Pendejo

Yep

part one of the problem is cows farting, millions of 'em emitting gasses

part two is the number of trees chopped down to provide razing areas for farting cows,

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For all us meat eaters. on 19:52 - Jan 31 with 3045 views

monytowbray

For all us meat eaters. on 19:39 - Jan 31 by Pecker
It was on the news. What is racist about it anyway?

It’s assuming someone else’s cultural norm is the cause of an issue because it’s different.

It’s not outright racist, in fact it’s something many people who aren’t racist in any way may assume without questioning. It’s more institutional racial bias.

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Pecker

For all us meat eaters. on 19:50 - Jan 31 by Pendejo
Yep part one of the problem is cows farting, millions of 'em emitting gasses part two is the number of trees chopped down to provide razing areas for farting cows,

It said in the production of meat, not the animals themselves.

For all us meat eaters. on 19:56 - Jan 31 with 3033 views

Herbivore

For all us meat eaters. on 19:21 - Jan 31 by Nthsuffolkblue

You are right, it is. However, how much of that land would genuinely return to forest? How much would simply be grassland for other reasons/purposes? How much is marshy land and how much mountain/hill-side? How much would be managed with machinery if it wasn't grazed?

As I say, many variables that I suspect haven't been thoroughly considered. Maybe they have in some studies. I haven't looked at any in great detail.

Large chunks of the Amazon that have been deforested for soy plantations and grazing could quite easily be given back over to forest.

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For all us meat eaters. on 19:57 - Jan 31 with 3032 views

Pendejo

For all us meat eaters. on 19:29 - Jan 31 by Pecker
Not sure about that. They reckon that this China virus is because they eat bats. What kind of things will we catch if we start eating flies and stuff.

Do you eat beef?
Have you heard of Bovine spongiform encephalopathy [BSE aka mad cow disease] and how it can be transmitted to humans?
Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease (vCJD)

Insects are packed full of protein and no bad fats... or so I read
Old article for reference
https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/eating-bugs-food_n_4726371?guccounter=1&g

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For all us meat eaters. on 19:57 - Jan 31 with 3031 views

monytowbray

For all us meat eaters. on 19:52 - Jan 31 by Pecker
It said in the production of meat, not the animals themselves.

I recommend Googling about how much water goes into a beef burger. That may answer a few questions and shock you. I would link to something but it’s Friday and I’m being lazy.

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For all us meat eaters. on 20:02 - Jan 31 with 3022 views

Pecker

For all us meat eaters. on 19:57 - Jan 31 by monytowbray
I recommend Googling about how much water goes into a beef burger. That may answer a few questions and shock you. I would link to something but it’s Friday and I’m being lazy.

Have read into it and it is frightening. I tend to only eat white meat.

For all us meat eaters. on 20:09 - Jan 31 with 3012 views

monytowbray

For all us meat eaters. on 20:02 - Jan 31 by Pecker
Have read into it and it is frightening. I tend to only eat white meat.

I honestly can’t imagine a life with meat now. It seems like such a foreign concept. I’m hoping I can feel that way about alcohol soon too, I’m almost 9 weeks booze free.

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For all us meat eaters. on 20:11 - Jan 31 with 3009 views

Pecker

For all us meat eaters. on 20:09 - Jan 31 by monytowbray
I honestly can’t imagine a life with meat now. It seems like such a foreign concept. I’m hoping I can feel that way about alcohol soon too, I’m almost 9 weeks booze free.

Good luck to you. My Brother lost his life to alcohol, so I wish you all the best.

For all us meat eaters. on 20:13 - Jan 31 with 3003 views

monytowbray

For all us meat eaters. on 20:11 - Jan 31 by Pecker
Good luck to you. My Brother lost his life to alcohol, so I wish you all the best.

Alcohol and depression have claimed a few on my Dad’s side, therapy helped me a lot.

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For all us meat eaters. on 20:17 - Jan 31 with 2999 views

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Watch Game Changers or What the Health, that'll answer your question.

For all us meat eaters. on 20:18 - Jan 31 with 2999 views

Pecker

For all us meat eaters. on 20:13 - Jan 31 by monytowbray
Alcohol and depression have claimed a few on my Dad’s side, therapy helped me a lot.

Never be afraid to ask for help. You will be surprised how many organisations there are to help. Of course, you need to help yourself first and admit you have a problem, which you have and for that I congratulate you.

For all us meat eaters. on 20:38 - Jan 31 with 2986 views

jonbull88

For all us meat eaters. on 19:57 - Jan 31 by monytowbray
I recommend Googling about how much water goes into a beef burger. That may answer a few questions and shock you. I would link to something but it’s Friday and I’m being lazy.

The water that they claim goes in to beef or other animals isn’t actually right. I know this as when you google amount of water to produce beef it also says it takes 576 gallons of water to produce a pound of pork. There is 4.5L of water per gallon, which means to produce 1 pound of pork it will take just shy of 2600L of water. 1 pound is 0.45kg. This means 260000L per 100kg pig.

I am a pig farmer, we have about 950 pigs and use 350000L of water total in 20 weeks. This works out about 370L per pig, which based on 100kg pig is 3.7L/kg. Remember 1kg is just over 2 pounds. So that means it would be about 1.85L/pound of pork.

Meat production has its issues with the environment i get that but a lot of people who are claiming getting rid will save the world need their heads shacking

For all us meat eaters. on 20:41 - Jan 31 with 2984 views

Ely_Blue

For all us meat eaters. on 19:57 - Jan 31 by monytowbray
I recommend Googling about how much water goes into a beef burger. That may answer a few questions and shock you. I would link to something but it’s Friday and I’m being lazy.

I also recommend googling how bad non dairy milks such as almond milk are for the environment and also how Soy production is the 2nd worst agricultural crop behind beef!

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For all us meat eaters. on 20:43 - Jan 31 with 2979 views

jeera

For all us meat eaters. on 20:38 - Jan 31 by jonbull88

Humans over population is the major factor over our food choices.

Eventually, if we continue at the rate we are, then resources will be limited regardless.

How the heck has the world population doubled in 50 years?

That's insane.

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For all us meat eaters. on 20:47 - Jan 31 with 2975 views

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For all us meat eaters. on 20:43 - Jan 31 by jeera
Humans over population is the major factor over our food choices. Eventually, if we continue at the rate we are, then resources will be limited regardless. How the heck has the world population doubled in 50 years? That's insane.

Dean Swift's A Modest Proposal For preventing the Children of Poor People From being a Burthen to Their Parents or Country, and For making them Beneficial to the Public sorted this population problem out in 1729.

His solution is as valid today as it was in the eighteenth century.

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For all us meat eaters. on 20:48 - Jan 31 with 2974 views

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For all us meat eaters. on 19:37 - Jan 31 by monytowbray
Chickens are great pets. Amazingly a lot of the animals we think are normal to eat are just as cute/fun/social as the ones we consider pets. In fact I’d go as far to sat many animals we eat are no where near as big a d1ck as cats are.

And great at laying eggs too...it would be a shame not to eat them.

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For all us meat eaters. on 20:53 - Jan 31 with 2964 views

jeera

For all us meat eaters. on 20:48 - Jan 31 by BanksterDebtSlave
And great at laying eggs too...it would be a shame not to eat them.

I see that the unpleasant slaughtering of male chicks has been in the news a bit recently. France is banning a certain method, and rightly so.

That aside, cos I'm not looking for another debate on that, I am led to believe they are not grown to adulthood because the egg laying type don't grow to an appropriate size for the table.

I can't see it. We breed and eat far smaller breeds of poultry so why the waste of life so young?

Also, I know of a place near Diss that only sells Cockerels (for the plate) and they are huge.

So where have they got only males from and how come?

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For all us meat eaters. on 20:58 - Jan 31 with 2957 views

monytowbray

For all us meat eaters. on 20:41 - Jan 31 by Ely_Blue
I also recommend googling how bad non dairy milks such as almond milk are for the environment and also how Soy production is the 2nd worst agricultural crop behind beef!

As someone who claims to work in food and be an expert, I’m starting to wonder if you are suffering from the Dunning Kruger Effect. I mean, you just called beef a “crop”.

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/green-living-blog/2010/feb/15/ask-leo-to

I could drink almond milk for days and still have a lower carbon footprint than a meat and dairy eater. Although I choose oat milk as I am environmentally conscious rather than cherry picking nonsense to support an agenda I’ve pre-determined in my own mind.

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For all us meat eaters. on 21:01 - Jan 31 with 2951 views

monytowbray

For all us meat eaters. on 20:38 - Jan 31 by jonbull88

Veganism isn’t the perfect solution, but it’s a huge step in the right direction.

As for the water point you make, I’m sure pigs need less water than cows. But again, soy needs even less :)

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monytowbray

For all us meat eaters. on 20:48 - Jan 31 by BanksterDebtSlave
And great at laying eggs too...it would be a shame not to eat them.

I think the mass production of eggs is grim. My mate’s got a few rescue hens he saved from slaughter after they’d stopped being profitable for eggs and the difference in their physical condition now vs when he first got them is huge.

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For all us meat eaters. on 19:37 - Jan 31 by monytowbray
Chickens are great pets. Amazingly a lot of the animals we think are normal to eat are just as cute/fun/social as the ones we consider pets. In fact I’d go as far to sat many animals we eat are no where near as big a d1ck as cats are.

We kept chickens in America. They’re great fun. Although the main benefit of the eggs would be wasted on vegans of course. But a vegan purely on ethical grounds who wanted to keep chickens would be responsible for their welfare, so maybe would be willing to eat the eggs? Maybe?

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