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wokepol at itv 18:06 - Mar 2 with 5509 viewsTrequartista

https://news.sky.com/story/itv-and-anne-marie-apologise-after-ant-and-dec-saturd

we know better and we will censor this.

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wokepol at itv on 18:12 - Mar 2 with 3972 viewsDubtractor

Hate to say it, but this post does suggest you are a bit of a nob.

I'm sure you're not, but what a weird thing to get annoyed by.

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wokepol at itv on 18:17 - Mar 2 with 3937 viewsfooters

wokepol at itv on 18:12 - Mar 2 by Dubtractor

Hate to say it, but this post does suggest you are a bit of a nob.

I'm sure you're not, but what a weird thing to get annoyed by.


I'm more annoyed that Ant n Dec are still on TV at all, tbh.

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wokepol at itv on 18:21 - Mar 2 with 3923 viewsJ2BLUE

Strange post.

Truly impaired.
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wokepol at itv on 18:25 - Mar 2 with 3908 viewsHARRY10

or we will ask clueless numpties to look up why the Japanese battleflag is still seen as a representation of horrific evil



or have a look at the photos then bleat out your 'woke' buzzword

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wokepol at itv on 18:30 - Mar 2 with 3876 viewsvapour_trail

wokepol at itv on 18:12 - Mar 2 by Dubtractor

Hate to say it, but this post does suggest you are a bit of a nob.

I'm sure you're not, but what a weird thing to get annoyed by.


He’s also very wedded to this woke term, which also suggests a level of nobbery, but am sure you’re correct.

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wokepol at itv on 18:46 - Mar 2 with 3842 viewsBlueBadger

Imagine being the sort of delicate snowflake who is upset by people apologising for being ignorant and looking to do better next time.

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wokepol at itv on 18:49 - Mar 2 with 3820 viewsBlueBadger

wokepol at itv on 18:30 - Mar 2 by vapour_trail

He’s also very wedded to this woke term, which also suggests a level of nobbery, but am sure you’re correct.


'Woke' is the new 'political correctness' for a certain flavour of w@anker.

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wokepol at itv on 19:27 - Mar 2 with 3738 viewsMarshalls_Mullet

wokepol at itv on 18:46 - Mar 2 by BlueBadger

Imagine being the sort of delicate snowflake who is upset by people apologising for being ignorant and looking to do better next time.


I think the apology was fair enough.

I wouldn't say that it was a particularly ignorant mistake... but I guess it has educated a lot of people, so thats a plus!

Apology has been made, we move on. Nothing to see here.

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wokepol at itv on 19:28 - Mar 2 with 3731 viewsMarshalls_Mullet

wokepol at itv on 18:17 - Mar 2 by footers

I'm more annoyed that Ant n Dec are still on TV at all, tbh.


You dont have to watch them...

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wokepol at itv on 19:30 - Mar 2 with 3727 viewsTrequartista

wokepol at itv on 18:12 - Mar 2 by Dubtractor

Hate to say it, but this post does suggest you are a bit of a nob.

I'm sure you're not, but what a weird thing to get annoyed by.


Not sure what is nobbish about being concerned about censorship. The article says the flag is still in widespread use in Japan. Absolutely nobody made a complaint about it, yet they saw fit to apologize for an offence that wasn't caused and have gone back re-edited the program.

It's a comparatively trivial issue, but thin end of the wedge and all that.

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wokepol at itv on 19:30 - Mar 2 with 3728 viewsBlueBadger

wokepol at itv on 19:27 - Mar 2 by Marshalls_Mullet

I think the apology was fair enough.

I wouldn't say that it was a particularly ignorant mistake... but I guess it has educated a lot of people, so thats a plus!

Apology has been made, we move on. Nothing to see here.


I can certainly think of a few gentlemen from round this neck of the woods who would have been appalled to see it on the telly, had they been still alive. There were a LOT of men from East Anglia who were Japanese POWS.

My maternal grandad, who spent a lot of time with the navy in Asia/Australasia and crewed a vessel used for transportation of former POWs from that particular theatre of operations certainly would have had a few things to say about it.

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wokepol at itv on 19:32 - Mar 2 with 3711 viewsfooters

wokepol at itv on 19:28 - Mar 2 by Marshalls_Mullet

You dont have to watch them...


I don't. And neither probably does the OP ;)

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wokepol at itv on 19:33 - Mar 2 with 3716 viewsMarshalls_Mullet

wokepol at itv on 19:30 - Mar 2 by BlueBadger

I can certainly think of a few gentlemen from round this neck of the woods who would have been appalled to see it on the telly, had they been still alive. There were a LOT of men from East Anglia who were Japanese POWS.

My maternal grandad, who spent a lot of time with the navy in Asia/Australasia and crewed a vessel used for transportation of former POWs from that particular theatre of operations certainly would have had a few things to say about it.


I'm not disputing that.

I am disputing that the mistake was a mark of ignorance.

I think amongst the majority of the general UK population, the true meaning of that symbol is not well known.

Apology made, we move on.

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wokepol at itv on 19:35 - Mar 2 with 3707 viewsTrequartista

wokepol at itv on 18:25 - Mar 2 by HARRY10

or we will ask clueless numpties to look up why the Japanese battleflag is still seen as a representation of horrific evil



or have a look at the photos then bleat out your 'woke' buzzword

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But it isn't ... "However, the flag has been widely used as a national symbol in Japan for centuries and commonly appears on products, in adverts, and in popular culture in the East Asian island nation."

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wokepol at itv on 19:35 - Mar 2 with 3705 viewsBlueBadger

wokepol at itv on 19:30 - Mar 2 by Trequartista

Not sure what is nobbish about being concerned about censorship. The article says the flag is still in widespread use in Japan. Absolutely nobody made a complaint about it, yet they saw fit to apologize for an offence that wasn't caused and have gone back re-edited the program.

It's a comparatively trivial issue, but thin end of the wedge and all that.


I fear you're confusing 'you might want to think about what you're saying here, as it might make you look like a d1ck' with 'censorship' here
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wokepol at itv on 19:38 - Mar 2 with 3691 viewsTrequartista

wokepol at itv on 19:35 - Mar 2 by BlueBadger

I fear you're confusing 'you might want to think about what you're saying here, as it might make you look like a d1ck' with 'censorship' here
[Post edited 2 Mar 2020 19:37]


It's all about the context really.

Should we remove nazi flags from history programmes? I would say no.
Would a nazi flag be appropriate on ant and dec? I would say no, it's light entertainment, freddie starr fans may disagree with me.
Should a flag not deemed to be offensive in Japan be used on ant and dec? I don't see why not.
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wokepol at itv on 19:40 - Mar 2 with 3671 viewsBlueBadger

wokepol at itv on 19:33 - Mar 2 by Marshalls_Mullet

I'm not disputing that.

I am disputing that the mistake was a mark of ignorance.

I think amongst the majority of the general UK population, the true meaning of that symbol is not well known.

Apology made, we move on.


https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/ignorance

'lack of knowledge, understanding, or information about something"

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wokepol at itv on 19:41 - Mar 2 with 3648 viewsBlueBadger

wokepol at itv on 19:38 - Mar 2 by Trequartista

It's all about the context really.

Should we remove nazi flags from history programmes? I would say no.
Would a nazi flag be appropriate on ant and dec? I would say no, it's light entertainment, freddie starr fans may disagree with me.
Should a flag not deemed to be offensive in Japan be used on ant and dec? I don't see why not.
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Maybe not, because lots of non-Japanese people DO find it offensive. A bit like the Confederate Flag, for example.
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wokepol at itv on 19:43 - Mar 2 with 3626 viewsTrequartista

wokepol at itv on 19:41 - Mar 2 by BlueBadger

Maybe not, because lots of non-Japanese people DO find it offensive. A bit like the Confederate Flag, for example.
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Should we remove the Nazi arrows from the opening credits of Dad's Army?

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wokepol at itv on 19:45 - Mar 2 with 3619 viewsLankHenners

wokepol at itv on 19:30 - Mar 2 by Trequartista

Not sure what is nobbish about being concerned about censorship. The article says the flag is still in widespread use in Japan. Absolutely nobody made a complaint about it, yet they saw fit to apologize for an offence that wasn't caused and have gone back re-edited the program.

It's a comparatively trivial issue, but thin end of the wedge and all that.


So something's only offensive if it gets complained about?

They decided, on reflection, it was inappropriate and issued an apology to those who may have found it distasteful. Not a lot wrong with that nor is it much of an issue.

Just because I don't care doesn't mean I don't understand.
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wokepol at itv on 19:45 - Mar 2 with 3613 viewsBlueBadger

wokepol at itv on 19:43 - Mar 2 by Trequartista

Should we remove the Nazi arrows from the opening credits of Dad's Army?


No, because that's plainly appropriate given the context of the show.
I'm pretty sure that other, non-contentious Eastern symbols/flags are available for a skit on a daft Saturday night light entertainment show and no-one will be hurt by it.
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wokepol at itv on 19:46 - Mar 2 with 3607 viewsMarshalls_Mullet

wokepol at itv on 19:40 - Mar 2 by BlueBadger

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/ignorance

'lack of knowledge, understanding, or information about something"

At the risk of coming across all Sparks...
[Post edited 2 Mar 2020 19:40]


You probably needed to be more specific in your use of the word.

They were specifically ignorant when it came to knowledge of Japanese symbolism.

They were not generally ignorant.

I don't think the majority of people under 40 would have recognised what that symbol stood for.

Indeed, to paraphrase you;

I can think of a few dead people who would have been offended by that if they were alive.

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wokepol at itv on 19:47 - Mar 2 with 3584 viewsBlueBadger

wokepol at itv on 19:46 - Mar 2 by Marshalls_Mullet

You probably needed to be more specific in your use of the word.

They were specifically ignorant when it came to knowledge of Japanese symbolism.

They were not generally ignorant.

I don't think the majority of people under 40 would have recognised what that symbol stood for.

Indeed, to paraphrase you;

I can think of a few dead people who would have been offended by that if they were alive.


I'll confess, I wasn't aware of the significance of it myself.
I am now slightly less ignorant about the world around me.

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wokepol at itv on 19:49 - Mar 2 with 3569 viewsMarshalls_Mullet

wokepol at itv on 18:25 - Mar 2 by HARRY10

or we will ask clueless numpties to look up why the Japanese battleflag is still seen as a representation of horrific evil



or have a look at the photos then bleat out your 'woke' buzzword

[Post edited 2 Mar 2020 18:56]


I don't think people are clueless numpties for not knowing the significance of that symbol.

Why take such a tone?

#bekind

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wokepol at itv on 19:50 - Mar 2 with 3560 viewsBlueBadger

wokepol at itv on 19:35 - Mar 2 by Trequartista

But it isn't ... "However, the flag has been widely used as a national symbol in Japan for centuries and commonly appears on products, in adverts, and in popular culture in the East Asian island nation."


So, it's a bit like the Confederate flag?

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