| I am pretty much convinced now... 20:29 - Mar 7 with 20263 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
...that Coronavirus mostly only rears its ugly head on cruise ships. Other than that, especially in China, it is largely contained. In other breaking news the Pope has a cold.
But who knows what I really mean?
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| I am pretty much convinced now... on 08:59 - Mar 8 with 2357 views | StokieBlue |
| I am pretty much convinced now... on 08:52 - Mar 8 by GaryCooper |
I'm spreading rubbish?? Have you no sense of self? When did you become the proprietor of opinion?
Haven't you got a bunker to fill? |
Yes you are. You are posting incorrect science and labelling it fact.
I'm also sick of this "opinion" rubbish. It's not valid to hold an opinion as equal or equivalent when it's fundamentally wrong and provably so.
That is the bucket into which your opinions posted in this thread fall and thus claiming some kind of equivalence for your "opinion" is wrong.
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| I am pretty much convinced now... on 09:01 - Mar 8 with 2349 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| I am pretty much convinced now... on 08:46 - Mar 8 by StokieBlue |
Stop being a tw*t?
I am sick and tired of the fake news and conspiracy nonsense that gets peddled on here. I don't want to see it hear and thus you'll be challenged when you write it.
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| I am pretty much convinced now... on 09:03 - Mar 8 with 2343 views | GaryCooper |
| I am pretty much convinced now... on 08:59 - Mar 8 by StokieBlue |
Yes you are. You are posting incorrect science and labelling it fact.
I'm also sick of this "opinion" rubbish. It's not valid to hold an opinion as equal or equivalent when it's fundamentally wrong and provably so.
That is the bucket into which your opinions posted in this thread fall and thus claiming some kind of equivalence for your "opinion" is wrong.
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What are you doing any differently that is not already good hygienic practice, good manners and controllable?
The country will grind to a standstill with the fake fear, fake fear perpetuated by those like you, shall all the High voltage electrical engineers self quarantine? If we do far more people will die than those killed by Coronavirus. |  | | |
| I am pretty much convinced now... on 09:04 - Mar 8 with 2342 views | StokieBlue |
| I am pretty much convinced now... on 09:01 - Mar 8 by BanksterDebtSlave |
Gosh you are angry ..... "hear" ! |
I am actually.
I am sick and tired of people talking utter rubbish on here as if their opinion, which is without scientific basis or fact, is equal to that of experts in their fields or people who just do attempt to back up their opinions with evidence.
It's one of the biggest problems of our times.
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| I am pretty much convinced now... on 09:06 - Mar 8 with 2336 views | StokieBlue |
| I am pretty much convinced now... on 09:03 - Mar 8 by GaryCooper |
What are you doing any differently that is not already good hygienic practice, good manners and controllable?
The country will grind to a standstill with the fake fear, fake fear perpetuated by those like you, shall all the High voltage electrical engineers self quarantine? If we do far more people will die than those killed by Coronavirus. |
You've still not supported any of your points. You've not said why it's "fake fear".
You've just posted some non-equivalences (for instance a high voltage engineer has training to mitigate the risk).
You've really got no idea what you're talking about so best to stop or actually answer peoples direct requests for evidence.
I don't really get your stance. If things can be done to minimise the risk and stop the virus circulating until a vaccine is developed and mass produced then why shouldn't they be done?
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| I am pretty much convinced now... on 09:06 - Mar 8 with 2327 views | GaryCooper |
| I am pretty much convinced now... on 09:04 - Mar 8 by StokieBlue |
I am actually.
I am sick and tired of people talking utter rubbish on here as if their opinion, which is without scientific basis or fact, is equal to that of experts in their fields or people who just do attempt to back up their opinions with evidence.
It's one of the biggest problems of our times.
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So is fake fear and spreading panic, which and I am surprised, you are assisting. | | | |
| I am pretty much convinced now... on 09:08 - Mar 8 with 2321 views | WeWereZombies |
I booked a cruise yesterday. But not to or from China. |  |
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| I am pretty much convinced now... on 09:09 - Mar 8 with 2321 views | GaryCooper |
| I am pretty much convinced now... on 09:06 - Mar 8 by StokieBlue |
You've still not supported any of your points. You've not said why it's "fake fear".
You've just posted some non-equivalences (for instance a high voltage engineer has training to mitigate the risk).
You've really got no idea what you're talking about so best to stop or actually answer peoples direct requests for evidence.
I don't really get your stance. If things can be done to minimise the risk and stop the virus circulating until a vaccine is developed and mass produced then why shouldn't they be done?
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Training to mitigate the risk? What the hell are you on about? Have a little look at yourself you have gone full wipeout on this. | | | |
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| I am pretty much convinced now... on 09:11 - Mar 8 with 2313 views | StokieBlue |
| I am pretty much convinced now... on 09:06 - Mar 8 by GaryCooper |
So is fake fear and spreading panic, which and I am surprised, you are assisting. |
No, I back up what I post with evidence when and where it's required. You don't do anything of the sort. You just say your opinion carries as much weight as other peoples and that just isn't the case if you can't back it up.
You've not said how it's fake fear after being asked 3 times.
How does the r0 of Covid 19 compare to other pandemics?
What are your thoughts on that? What are your thoughts of varying mortality rates amongst different genetic groups?
What are your thoughts on initial studies citing possible long-term lung damage?
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| I am pretty much convinced now... on 09:11 - Mar 8 with 2313 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| I am pretty much convinced now... on 09:04 - Mar 8 by StokieBlue |
I am actually.
I am sick and tired of people talking utter rubbish on here as if their opinion, which is without scientific basis or fact, is equal to that of experts in their fields or people who just do attempt to back up their opinions with evidence.
It's one of the biggest problems of our times.
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Well luckily for us all every scientific fact about this virus is available via rolling media coverage!
As an aside....You not surprised that at least some African nations aren't in full melt down yet considering how much of a Chinese presence there is in many nations? Any thoughts on why Italy would have it so bad....relatively speaking?
Ps....you imagining conspiracy theories when none is being pushed, like yesterday's thread, will not help your blood pressure either! [Post edited 8 Mar 2020 9:13]
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| I am pretty much convinced now... on 09:11 - Mar 8 with 2311 views | StokieBlue |
| I am pretty much convinced now... on 09:09 - Mar 8 by GaryCooper |
Training to mitigate the risk? What the hell are you on about? Have a little look at yourself you have gone full wipeout on this. |
I don't think you've understood my post or what a false equivalence is.
You need to go do some reading and come back.
I've not gone "full wipeout". I just want people to stick to facts rather than writing stuff without any evidence which is what you seem to do every post.
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| I am pretty much convinced now... on 09:14 - Mar 8 with 2300 views | Pinewoodblue |
| I am pretty much convinced now... on 08:19 - Mar 8 by GaryCooper |
Cruises are for the newly wed, the over fed and the nearly dead. |
There are specialist themed cruises where a company charters the ship. Highly recommended especially those with a music theme.
Hopefully off to Miami in two weeks for Flower Power Cruise. With all the screening that is taking place should be healthiest cruise have been on. Checks for fever and oxygen levels in blood for all passengers and crew. The same company did a rock and romance cruise last month 600 passengers and crew went down with the flu.
Think it was Stokie who made a comment about the risks of so many people in a confined space but no different to going to a music weekend at Butlins. 5,000 at Skegness this weekend shoe-horned Into two arenas.
Been there, done that but no longer possible as it just isn’t wheelchair friendly for Mrs Pinewood.
Someone else mentioned cruise ship in Africa. That was a Nile cruiser only 150 passengers done that as well only problem is you stand a good chance of getting a sh1tty bug at the best of times. |  |
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| I am pretty much convinced now... on 09:14 - Mar 8 with 2298 views | GaryCooper |
| I am pretty much convinced now... on 09:11 - Mar 8 by StokieBlue |
I don't think you've understood my post or what a false equivalence is.
You need to go do some reading and come back.
I've not gone "full wipeout". I just want people to stick to facts rather than writing stuff without any evidence which is what you seem to do every post.
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The country could, with the current level of hype and panic grin to a standstill, this would kill far more than the virus, the economy could suffer huge damage all due to fear, fear which you are perpetuating, please stop. | | | |
| I am pretty much convinced now... on 09:16 - Mar 8 with 2293 views | StokieBlue |
| I am pretty much convinced now... on 09:11 - Mar 8 by BanksterDebtSlave |
Well luckily for us all every scientific fact about this virus is available via rolling media coverage!
As an aside....You not surprised that at least some African nations aren't in full melt down yet considering how much of a Chinese presence there is in many nations? Any thoughts on why Italy would have it so bad....relatively speaking?
Ps....you imagining conspiracy theories when none is being pushed, like yesterday's thread, will not help your blood pressure either! [Post edited 8 Mar 2020 9:13]
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There are many reasons for that.
Chinese contractors would likely have been back in China for New Years or would not have been allowed back. You don't just catch it because you're Chinese, Chinese people got it because Wuhan is in China - these are very different things. Given this your point isn't really a valid one.
I would also say it's likely rife in some parts of Africa but testing is 15-20 days behind the true outbreak numbers and even then how many testing kits do you think many African countries have?
Could be many reasons why Italy have it so bad. Firstly it seems to have been there longer - from mid-January according to some reports. They could also have a genetic disposition, the areas it's affecting could be full of older people, greeting each other with a kiss on the cheek probably didn't help. There are a multitude of possible reasons.
I would also say Italy probably doesn't have it worse than anyone else. They are just a month further along the curve compared to the rest of Europe.
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Edit: If you're not pushing a conspiracy theory then what was the nonsense about us being tracked everywhere and knowing where we are when WFH? Cooper is definitely pushing conspiracies saying the media are spreading fake fear. [Post edited 8 Mar 2020 9:17]
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| I am pretty much convinced now... on 09:18 - Mar 8 with 2287 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| I am pretty much convinced now... on 09:11 - Mar 8 by StokieBlue |
I don't think you've understood my post or what a false equivalence is.
You need to go do some reading and come back.
I've not gone "full wipeout". I just want people to stick to facts rather than writing stuff without any evidence which is what you seem to do every post.
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I think all he is saying Stokie is that some crucial jobs can not be done from home while self isolating....! | |
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| I am pretty much convinced now... on 09:18 - Mar 8 with 2286 views | StokieBlue |
| I am pretty much convinced now... on 09:14 - Mar 8 by GaryCooper |
The country could, with the current level of hype and panic grin to a standstill, this would kill far more than the virus, the economy could suffer huge damage all due to fear, fear which you are perpetuating, please stop. |
I've not perpetuated fear. I've countered your total nonsense with evidence. You've still not answered a single direct question put to you. I suspect you simply don't know the answers.
So please stop this now.
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| I am pretty much convinced now... on 09:19 - Mar 8 with 2282 views | StokieBlue |
| I am pretty much convinced now... on 09:18 - Mar 8 by BanksterDebtSlave |
I think all he is saying Stokie is that some crucial jobs can not be done from home while self isolating....! |
Edit - doesn't matter.
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| I am pretty much convinced now... on 09:19 - Mar 8 with 2282 views | Pecker |
If, sorry , when you catch it, will you be on here with your cryptic half arsed attempts at humour? |  | | |
| I am pretty much convinced now... on 09:23 - Mar 8 with 2272 views | Pinewoodblue |
| I am pretty much convinced now... on 09:14 - Mar 8 by GaryCooper |
The country could, with the current level of hype and panic grin to a standstill, this would kill far more than the virus, the economy could suffer huge damage all due to fear, fear which you are perpetuating, please stop. |
Check what is happening in Italy. Over 1,000 new case in one day. Around 200 deaths and number rising rapidly. 16 million now in lock down including Milan, the financial heart of the country, and Venice.
Doubt Ferrari will be at Australian GP as their base is in the lock down area.
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| I am pretty much convinced now... on 09:24 - Mar 8 with 2269 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| I am pretty much convinced now... on 09:16 - Mar 8 by StokieBlue |
There are many reasons for that.
Chinese contractors would likely have been back in China for New Years or would not have been allowed back. You don't just catch it because you're Chinese, Chinese people got it because Wuhan is in China - these are very different things. Given this your point isn't really a valid one.
I would also say it's likely rife in some parts of Africa but testing is 15-20 days behind the true outbreak numbers and even then how many testing kits do you think many African countries have?
Could be many reasons why Italy have it so bad. Firstly it seems to have been there longer - from mid-January according to some reports. They could also have a genetic disposition, the areas it's affecting could be full of older people, greeting each other with a kiss on the cheek probably didn't help. There are a multitude of possible reasons.
I would also say Italy probably doesn't have it worse than anyone else. They are just a month further along the curve compared to the rest of Europe.
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Edit: If you're not pushing a conspiracy theory then what was the nonsense about us being tracked everywhere and knowing where we are when WFH? Cooper is definitely pushing conspiracies saying the media are spreading fake fear. [Post edited 8 Mar 2020 9:17]
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"You don't just catch it because you're Chinese...."
It was a question not a point and that is a f@cking cheap shot!! | |
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| I am pretty much convinced now... on 09:26 - Mar 8 with 2260 views | sparks |
| I am pretty much convinced now... on 08:47 - Mar 8 by BanksterDebtSlave |
I think it would probably be safest for us all if we all just worked from home, fitted trackers to make sure we know who we may have infected if we accidentally stray too far and did all our shopping on the internet from now on.....you know to keep us safe, you never know when the next nasty virus might emerge!
Actually this would probably be beneficial for CO2 emissions too ! |
Pathetic conspiracy theory tinfoilhattery as usual. |  |
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| I am pretty much convinced now... on 09:27 - Mar 8 with 2259 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| I am pretty much convinced now... on 09:19 - Mar 8 by Pecker |
If, sorry , when you catch it, will you be on here with your cryptic half arsed attempts at humour? |
More than ever dear boy...2 week's of isolation....lucky you! | |
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| I am pretty much convinced now... on 09:27 - Mar 8 with 2256 views | StokieBlue |
| I am pretty much convinced now... on 09:24 - Mar 8 by BanksterDebtSlave |
"You don't just catch it because you're Chinese...."
It was a question not a point and that is a f@cking cheap shot!! |
Apologies if you see it that way, not my intention.
Just pointing out that unless the Chinese people working in Africa had been back for New Year (which seems unlikely) then there is no reason that African countries should have it more than anywhere else. It will get there through the same vectors as it got to Europe.
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| I am pretty much convinced now... on 09:28 - Mar 8 with 2247 views | sparks |
| I am pretty much convinced now... on 09:01 - Mar 8 by BanksterDebtSlave |
Gosh you are angry ..... "hear" ! |
He's right to be angry, The constant spreading of false information, conpiracy theories, false science and the "we have had enough of experts" mindset is actively dangerous and hurting people. | |
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| I am pretty much convinced now... on 09:30 - Mar 8 with 2243 views | sparks |
| I am pretty much convinced now... on 09:06 - Mar 8 by GaryCooper |
So is fake fear and spreading panic, which and I am surprised, you are assisting. |
Please specifiy who and what is causing "fake fear" by reference to facts. | |
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