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Because we have only been testing the really sick once they reach hospital, I suspect Germany either have access to more testing or have a different testing regime where they test anyone and everyone, a huge waste of time and resource IMHO
Going by this anyone know why more people have passed away from on 06:46 - Mar 20 by Ely_Blue
Because we have only been testing the really sick once they reach hospital, I suspect Germany either have access to more testing or have a different testing regime where they test anyone and everyone, a huge waste of time and resource IMHO
Maybe in Germany the most vulnerable are actually following government advice? I was pretty amazed by how many people aged 70+ were out and about yesterday like nothing was happening.
Going by this anyone know why more people have passed away from on 06:53 - Mar 20 by Herbivore
Maybe in Germany the most vulnerable are actually following government advice? I was pretty amazed by how many people aged 70+ were out and about yesterday like nothing was happening.
I drove through Newmarket yesterday and you honestly would have known anything was going on. People sitting outside wetherspoons having pints and OAPs wandering around.
Not sure if it's defiance or ignorance. Probably both.
Going by this anyone know why more people have passed away from on 07:38 - Mar 20 by TractorWood
I drove through Newmarket yesterday and you honestly would have known anything was going on. People sitting outside wetherspoons having pints and OAPs wandering around.
Not sure if it's defiance or ignorance. Probably both.
Same in Ely too, market day and the town was full of old people, even in the supermarket I saw people taking their clearly elderly parents out to the supermarket.... FFS I know these people have to eat but at least make them stay home and insist on going out to get their groceries for them
Nearly four times as many people per head of population have caught the disease in Germany than in the UK. Which is patently ridiculous.
Suspect we have 10k to 15k cases in the UK not severe enough for hospitalisation (isolated at home), thus have not yet been tested and do not make it into the official figures. Add those in and the mortality rate reduces to a much more reasonable 0.8% to 1.1%.
If you take the figures entirely at face value on 08:13 - Mar 20 by Guthrum
Nearly four times as many people per head of population have caught the disease in Germany than in the UK. Which is patently ridiculous.
Suspect we have 10k to 15k cases in the UK not severe enough for hospitalisation (isolated at home), thus have not yet been tested and do not make it into the official figures. Add those in and the mortality rate reduces to a much more reasonable 0.8% to 1.1%.
Any idea why Germany aren't making the number of tests they have performed public?
There could also be categorisation differences, they could be logged deaths as the underlying condition rather than Covid 19 which would have been the guess - that's speculation though.
Could also be they are following the advice as Herb said.
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Going by this anyone know why more people have passed away from on 08:19 - Mar 20 with 3356 views
There could also be categorisation differences, they could be logged deaths as the underlying condition rather than Covid 19 which would have been the guess - that's speculation though.
Could also be they are following the advice as Herb said.
SB
I don’t remember the actual figures but Germany have a higher number of intensive care places proportionally than the UK.
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If you take the figures entirely at face value on 08:24 - Mar 20 with 3350 views
If you take the figures entirely at face value on 08:20 - Mar 20 by andytown
I don’t remember the actual figures but Germany have a higher number of intensive care places proportionally than the UK.
They do, but it's still not going to account for that much of a differential at this stage. It's almost certainly down to the two countries having different ways of logging the number of cases and/or different testing policies/numbers.
If you take the figures entirely at face value on 08:24 - Mar 20 by Guthrum
They do, but it's still not going to account for that much of a differential at this stage. It's almost certainly down to the two countries having different ways of logging the number of cases and/or different testing policies/numbers.
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The numbers of tests from France in that chart is very poor considering where they are in the outbreak.
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Going by this anyone know why more people have passed away from on 08:26 - Mar 20 with 3336 views
Germany have a health care system designed to protect their citizens. They have 4 x the hospital beds that we do and far more doctors, nurses, carers etc. They also have care in the community and dont treat vulnerable and elderly as third class citizens. They have also not voted to shrink their economy and devalue their currency so they can afford vastly more healthcare to top up at a time of crisis.
They have also taken a more responsible stance - testing people who are at risk and attempted to stem the spread of the disease rather than encourage its spread which is the slightly deranged methodology the UK practiced until the abrupt (and way too late) U-turn. Nobody knows just how rampant the disease now is in the UK
The UK has the least prepared hospital care system in Europe... and has systematically dismantled care in the community. Never mind - we have 'fiscal headroom' and were even planning tax cuts whilst China showed the world just how serious this disease is by bulldozing vast acreages and building emergency hospitals in weeks
There could also be categorisation differences, they could be logged deaths as the underlying condition rather than Covid 19 which would have been the guess - that's speculation though.
Could also be they are following the advice as Herb said.
SB
They might be using clinical diagnosis figures, rather than purely test results as we are.
Going by this anyone know why more people have passed away from on 07:38 - Mar 20 by TractorWood
I drove through Newmarket yesterday and you honestly would have known anything was going on. People sitting outside wetherspoons having pints and OAPs wandering around.
Not sure if it's defiance or ignorance. Probably both.
It's the latter.
Same in my town. Heaving when I'm doing school drop-off. SWGF Snr is indoors. I'm dropping off supplies, from a distance, most days.
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