| Did the government really count pairs of gloves as 2 pieces of PPE? 16:41 - Apr 28 with 5376 views | noggin |
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| Did the government really count pairs of gloves as 2 pieces of PPE? on 17:41 - Apr 28 with 720 views | noggin |
| Did the government really count pairs of gloves as 2 pieces of PPE? on 17:39 - Apr 28 by NewcyBlue |
I am responsible for PPE on my ship. A box of 100 gloves is just that. 1 x 100. When a box is opened or issued, I take the box out of stock on the system straight away.
I'm also the medical officer, when I order surgical gloves they are ordered in pairs, and are sealed in a pack with plastic sheeting for the instruments. We tend to get sent stuff that's close to the expiry date because, well we're a ship and these medical suppliers send us their nearly expired stuff because they know we're soon to depart! |
So you're saying that one glove is one piece of PPE on your ship? | |
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| Did the government really count pairs of gloves as 2 pieces of PPE? on 17:43 - Apr 28 with 717 views | Lord_Lucan |
| Did the government really count pairs of gloves as 2 pieces of PPE? on 17:37 - Apr 28 by noggin |
I haven't seen it either, hence I asked the question. I have worked on the front line for 21 years and a pair of gloves is one piece of PPE. |
So you should know that you order in singles.
If you have 10 x boxes marked 100 gloves then your stock count will show 1000 units. If your optimum stock level is 10 boxes (1000 units) and your reorder level kicks in at 5 boxes (500 units) then you will order 500 units to bring you back up.
If you are putting a pair of gloves on and one splits what do you do with the one that hasn't split? |  |
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| Did the government really count pairs of gloves as 2 pieces of PPE? on 17:45 - Apr 28 with 712 views | noggin |
| Did the government really count pairs of gloves as 2 pieces of PPE? on 17:43 - Apr 28 by Lord_Lucan |
So you should know that you order in singles.
If you have 10 x boxes marked 100 gloves then your stock count will show 1000 units. If your optimum stock level is 10 boxes (1000 units) and your reorder level kicks in at 5 boxes (500 units) then you will order 500 units to bring you back up.
If you are putting a pair of gloves on and one splits what do you do with the one that hasn't split? |
But when you count pieces of PPE, a pair is one piece. I'll leave it at that. | |
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| Did the government really count pairs of gloves as 2 pieces of PPE? on 17:50 - Apr 28 with 702 views | NewcyBlue |
| Did the government really count pairs of gloves as 2 pieces of PPE? on 17:41 - Apr 28 by noggin |
So you're saying that one glove is one piece of PPE on your ship? |
No, I'm saying we can only order boxes of 100 of those particular gloves, and I refuse to empty a box to count how many are in it if it's opened.
One glove being one piece of PPE is ludicrous. We don't have any one armed people on board. Not unless there's been an accident.
I can see how there might be an odd number of gloves though, they split easily and people just replace the one that split. |  |
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| Did the government really count pairs of gloves as 2 pieces of PPE? on 17:53 - Apr 28 with 694 views | Lord_Lucan |
| Did the government really count pairs of gloves as 2 pieces of PPE? on 17:45 - Apr 28 by noggin |
But when you count pieces of PPE, a pair is one piece. I'll leave it at that. |
Dunno really
Newcy mentioned surgical gloves packed in pairs, I presume these are sterile gloves and indeed counted as one unit
I stand to be corrected but I would have thought that 100 gloves in a box is 100 units and a pair of sterile gloves in a bag is one unit.
Happy to be corrected. | |
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| Did the government really count pairs of gloves as 2 pieces of PPE? on 18:04 - Apr 28 with 679 views | Guthrum |
| Did the government really count pairs of gloves as 2 pieces of PPE? on 17:15 - Apr 28 by Lord_Lucan |
Don't be a dork Noggin, this is exactly how medical gloves are counted. This is in fact not in question.
When a hospital is stock counting their supply they count singularly, always have done. They are also ordered singularly.
Question. How many gloves are supplied in this box?
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Indeed, given the propensity for those kind of gloves to break and/or develop holes, if they were supplied as pairs (especially with fitted, rather than universal, thumbs) you'd end up with a load of odd ones left over. |  |
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| Did the government really count pairs of gloves as 2 pieces of PPE? on 18:09 - Apr 28 with 671 views | BloomBlue |
Not sure but I know we buy a box of disposable gloves from Sainsbury's and they come in a box of 100 not 50 pairs that's because the gloves can be worn on any hand. I would assume PPE gloves are interchangeable if not that would be silly as you could end up with lots of gloves being thrown away |  | | |
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| Did the government really count pairs of gloves as 2 pieces of PPE? on 18:28 - Apr 28 with 643 views | NewcyBlue |
| Did the government really count pairs of gloves as 2 pieces of PPE? on 18:10 - Apr 28 by monytowbray |
If you really want to be anal you could day that box is one PPE item. 
Let’s also not forget that the gloves point was one tiny part of the spin and lies we’ve been told.
They underfunded and slashed NHS budgets for a decade. They encouraged junior and immigrant staff not to work within it. They suppressed a report into our lack of preparedness for a pandemic in 2016 as it was "too terrifying" and showed a threat to "national security". They acted late in securing the gear we needed to protest NHS staff. They locked down too late on botched science to protect the economy thus raising the number of patients that would pass through our hospitals. They went on national TV and to the press with big numbers about PPE gear that are greatly exaggerated in terms of what is needed and what we are getting. They put every frontline worker in danger and then put a gagging order on them to stop them from speaking out.
And to top it all off, they have the audacity to start wearing NHS pins and clapping weekly in a revolting PR attempt to look like they might give a remote f*ck about what's going on.
The SAGE transcripts need releasing alongside the 2016 report on our pandemic prep. These should become considerable chunks of evidence for a public enquiry. Might as well let us have the Russia Report and open up the Grenfell investigation too whilst we’re there. |
If you want to point to a report about the Tories and the NHS
https://www.twtd.co.uk/forum/471191/a-report-into-maternity-deaths-was-delayed-until-after-the-election/#0
Clear evidence that their policy has caused deaths. | |
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| Did the government really count pairs of gloves as 2 pieces of PPE? on 18:31 - Apr 28 with 637 views | monytowbray |
| Did the government really count pairs of gloves as 2 pieces of PPE? on 18:28 - Apr 28 by NewcyBlue |
If you want to point to a report about the Tories and the NHS
https://www.twtd.co.uk/forum/471191/a-report-into-maternity-deaths-was-delayed-until-after-the-election/#0
Clear evidence that their policy has caused deaths. |
Suppressing government information is ironically the most Soviet dictatorship thing one can support. I thought that was what we had if we ended up with Corbyn?
The reports won’t make a difference anyway. Someone will post it on here and the result will be 8 pages of fence sitting and an more arguments about pedantic wording of posts than the actual issue. #RightWingFenceSittingIntellectClub [Post edited 28 Apr 2020 18:31]
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| Did the government really count pairs of gloves as 2 pieces of PPE? on 18:34 - Apr 28 with 631 views | EdwardStone |
| Did the government really count pairs of gloves as 2 pieces of PPE? on 18:10 - Apr 28 by monytowbray |
If you really want to be anal you could day that box is one PPE item.
Let’s also not forget that the gloves point was one tiny part of the spin and lies we’ve been told.
They underfunded and slashed NHS budgets for a decade. They encouraged junior and immigrant staff not to work within it. They suppressed a report into our lack of preparedness for a pandemic in 2016 as it was "too terrifying" and showed a threat to "national security". They acted late in securing the gear we needed to protest NHS staff. They locked down too late on botched science to protect the economy thus raising the number of patients that would pass through our hospitals. They went on national TV and to the press with big numbers about PPE gear that are greatly exaggerated in terms of what is needed and what we are getting. They put every frontline worker in danger and then put a gagging order on them to stop them from speaking out.
And to top it all off, they have the audacity to start wearing NHS pins and clapping weekly in a revolting PR attempt to look like they might give a remote f*ck about what's going on.
The SAGE transcripts need releasing alongside the 2016 report on our pandemic prep. These should become considerable chunks of evidence for a public enquiry. Might as well let us have the Russia Report and open up the Grenfell investigation too whilst we’re there. |
And the Acuri report please whilst you're there.....
Everyone wants to know the ins and outs of the chubby lap-dancer |  | | |
| Did the government really count pairs of gloves as 2 pieces of PPE? on 18:36 - Apr 28 with 622 views | EdwardStone |
| Did the government really count pairs of gloves as 2 pieces of PPE? on 18:34 - Apr 28 by EdwardStone |
And the Acuri report please whilst you're there.....
Everyone wants to know the ins and outs of the chubby lap-dancer |
oops...apparently she was a Pole Dancer
Bloody Poles, come over here, sh*g our MPs...... | | | |
| Did the government really count pairs of gloves as 2 pieces of PPE? on 18:37 - Apr 28 with 624 views | bluejacko |
Is it a member of the govt that is doing the counting or is it a civil servant working for whatever government is in power? |  | | |
| Did the government really count pairs of gloves as 2 pieces of PPE? on 18:39 - Apr 28 with 618 views | NewcyBlue |
| Did the government really count pairs of gloves as 2 pieces of PPE? on 18:31 - Apr 28 by monytowbray |
Suppressing government information is ironically the most Soviet dictatorship thing one can support. I thought that was what we had if we ended up with Corbyn?
The reports won’t make a difference anyway. Someone will post it on here and the result will be 8 pages of fence sitting and an more arguments about pedantic wording of posts than the actual issue. #RightWingFenceSittingIntellectClub [Post edited 28 Apr 2020 18:31]
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Your opinion of the members of this forum is poor. I don’t agree politically with some, but I don’t see the need to accuse the forum of some of the things you do.
Meat is murder though, and your point about veganism is probably correct.
I’ve gone off chicken somewhat lately which is the meat I ate most.
I’ve tried the protein works meal replacement instead of Huel. I didn’t get the vegan one this time, and Huel is vegan. But it was tasty and is vegetarian. | |
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| Did the government really count pairs of gloves as 2 pieces of PPE? on 18:50 - Apr 28 with 597 views | monytowbray |
| Did the government really count pairs of gloves as 2 pieces of PPE? on 18:39 - Apr 28 by NewcyBlue |
Your opinion of the members of this forum is poor. I don’t agree politically with some, but I don’t see the need to accuse the forum of some of the things you do.
Meat is murder though, and your point about veganism is probably correct.
I’ve gone off chicken somewhat lately which is the meat I ate most.
I’ve tried the protein works meal replacement instead of Huel. I didn’t get the vegan one this time, and Huel is vegan. But it was tasty and is vegetarian. |
We’re at the 20k death mark and there are massive holes throughout our strategy but it seems PWNING THE LEFTIES is more important to some. Or swerving. | |
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| Did the government really count pairs of gloves as 2 pieces of PPE? on 19:06 - Apr 28 with 579 views | NewcyBlue |
| Did the government really count pairs of gloves as 2 pieces of PPE? on 18:50 - Apr 28 by monytowbray |
We’re at the 20k death mark and there are massive holes throughout our strategy but it seems PWNING THE LEFTIES is more important to some. Or swerving. |
I have no idea what pwning means.
I do think people were just willing to give the government the benefit of the doubt. A mistrust is also understandable.
I do think that engaging with people respectfully and discussing is the way forward though. Except racists. Punch a racist. | |
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| Did the government really count pairs of gloves as 2 pieces of PPE? on 19:21 - Apr 28 with 563 views | Pinewoodblue |
| Did the government really count pairs of gloves as 2 pieces of PPE? on 19:06 - Apr 28 by NewcyBlue |
I have no idea what pwning means.
I do think people were just willing to give the government the benefit of the doubt. A mistrust is also understandable.
I do think that engaging with people respectfully and discussing is the way forward though. Except racists. Punch a racist. |
I find it sad that we have posters who can get worked up by latex gloves.
Been wondering for sometime now when the penny would drop with regards how you count items of PPE.
Gloves come in boxes usually a hundred a box. I won’t go into detail but there was a time, after my wife was discharged from hospital, that I was required to use this particular piece of protective equipment and yes I only used one at a time.
If one was damaged or split when Putin I didn’t throw another one away because they don’t come in pairs, thr you have a universal thumb. |  |
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| Did the government really count pairs of gloves as 2 pieces of PPE? on 19:38 - Apr 28 with 547 views | Ewan_Oozami |
| Did the government really count pairs of gloves as 2 pieces of PPE? on 19:21 - Apr 28 by Pinewoodblue |
I find it sad that we have posters who can get worked up by latex gloves.
Been wondering for sometime now when the penny would drop with regards how you count items of PPE.
Gloves come in boxes usually a hundred a box. I won’t go into detail but there was a time, after my wife was discharged from hospital, that I was required to use this particular piece of protective equipment and yes I only used one at a time.
If one was damaged or split when Putin I didn’t throw another one away because they don’t come in pairs, thr you have a universal thumb. |
I get worked up by latex gloves......often... |  |
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| Did the government really count pairs of gloves as 2 pieces of PPE? on 19:46 - Apr 28 with 542 views | monytowbray |
| Did the government really count pairs of gloves as 2 pieces of PPE? on 19:21 - Apr 28 by Pinewoodblue |
I find it sad that we have posters who can get worked up by latex gloves.
Been wondering for sometime now when the penny would drop with regards how you count items of PPE.
Gloves come in boxes usually a hundred a box. I won’t go into detail but there was a time, after my wife was discharged from hospital, that I was required to use this particular piece of protective equipment and yes I only used one at a time.
If one was damaged or split when Putin I didn’t throw another one away because they don’t come in pairs, thr you have a universal thumb. |
If you've watched last night's Panorama (which I 100% suggest you do) you'll see it's about more than just counting gloves.
They also count soap and paper towels as PPE which I didn't know, and I'd imagine a large chunk of the public didn't either.
It's spin of the highest order. | |
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| Did the government really count pairs of gloves as 2 pieces of PPE? on 19:52 - Apr 28 with 537 views | noggin |
| Did the government really count pairs of gloves as 2 pieces of PPE? on 19:46 - Apr 28 by monytowbray |
If you've watched last night's Panorama (which I 100% suggest you do) you'll see it's about more than just counting gloves.
They also count soap and paper towels as PPE which I didn't know, and I'd imagine a large chunk of the public didn't either.
It's spin of the highest order. |
A nurse who worked with my sister died yesterday. 4 weeks ago, when she first got symptoms, they were only allowed to wear PPE with confirmed cases. Such spin might work with the general public, but healthcare workers are being insulted by it. [Post edited 28 Apr 2020 19:56]
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| Did the government really count pairs of gloves as 2 pieces of PPE? on 19:53 - Apr 28 with 529 views | Leaky |
| Did the government really count pairs of gloves as 2 pieces of PPE? on 16:48 - Apr 28 by longtimefan |
I don't know, but why wouldn't you? Pretty sure they come separately - well the one's given to me years ago by by next door neighbour nurse did. Besides, if you dropped one or split one, you'd probably just replace it - not get two new ones. |
Yes they do. There is no left & right |  | | |
| Did the government really count pairs of gloves as 2 pieces of PPE? on 19:57 - Apr 28 with 520 views | monytowbray |
| Did the government really count pairs of gloves as 2 pieces of PPE? on 19:52 - Apr 28 by noggin |
A nurse who worked with my sister died yesterday. 4 weeks ago, when she first got symptoms, they were only allowed to wear PPE with confirmed cases. Such spin might work with the general public, but healthcare workers are being insulted by it. [Post edited 28 Apr 2020 19:56]
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Imagine putting a gagging order on health staff and that not ringing alarm bells?
The whole thing has been on this slippery slope from day one. And I think if we ever do get to see the SAGE transcripts or 2016 preparation report it will mostly confirm what evidence so fair strongly suggests.
Our response to the pandemic should be called "Operation Lies And Winging It". [Post edited 28 Apr 2020 19:58]
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| Did the government really count pairs of gloves as 2 pieces of PPE? on 19:57 - Apr 28 with 518 views | NewcyBlue |
| Did the government really count pairs of gloves as 2 pieces of PPE? on 19:52 - Apr 28 by noggin |
A nurse who worked with my sister died yesterday. 4 weeks ago, when she first got symptoms, they were only allowed to wear PPE with confirmed cases. Such spin might work with the general public, but healthcare workers are being insulted by it. [Post edited 28 Apr 2020 19:56]
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The midwives MrsN works with are kicking up a fuss.
The women coming in for babies have no idea that there are women on the maternity unit with covid.
Some of the stuff going on is scandalous. | |
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| Did the government really count pairs of gloves as 2 pieces of PPE? on 19:59 - Apr 28 with 513 views | noggin |
| Did the government really count pairs of gloves as 2 pieces of PPE? on 19:57 - Apr 28 by monytowbray |
Imagine putting a gagging order on health staff and that not ringing alarm bells?
The whole thing has been on this slippery slope from day one. And I think if we ever do get to see the SAGE transcripts or 2016 preparation report it will mostly confirm what evidence so fair strongly suggests.
Our response to the pandemic should be called "Operation Lies And Winging It". [Post edited 28 Apr 2020 19:58]
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She has indeed been warned against posting the truth on social media. Doesn't stop me or her husband doing it. | |
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| Did the government really count pairs of gloves as 2 pieces of PPE? on 20:03 - Apr 28 with 503 views | monytowbray |
| Did the government really count pairs of gloves as 2 pieces of PPE? on 19:57 - Apr 28 by NewcyBlue |
The midwives MrsN works with are kicking up a fuss.
The women coming in for babies have no idea that there are women on the maternity unit with covid.
Some of the stuff going on is scandalous. |
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