| Did the government really count pairs of gloves as 2 pieces of PPE? 16:41 - Apr 28 with 5374 views | noggin |
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| Did the government really count pairs of gloves as 2 pieces of PPE? on 20:04 - Apr 28 with 1117 views | monytowbray |
| Did the government really count pairs of gloves as 2 pieces of PPE? on 19:59 - Apr 28 by noggin |
She has indeed been warned against posting the truth on social media. Doesn't stop me or her husband doing it. |
Well if Panorama is anything to go by a few whistleblowers are a bit fed up too. |  |
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| Did the government really count pairs of gloves as 2 pieces of PPE? on 20:08 - Apr 28 with 1109 views | Leaky |
| Did the government really count pairs of gloves as 2 pieces of PPE? on 16:48 - Apr 28 by longtimefan |
I don't know, but why wouldn't you? Pretty sure they come separately - well the one's given to me years ago by by next door neighbour nurse did. Besides, if you dropped one or split one, you'd probably just replace it - not get two new ones. |
Yes they do. There is no left & right |  | | |
| Did the government really count pairs of gloves as 2 pieces of PPE? on 20:13 - Apr 28 with 1106 views | Leaky |
| Did the government really count pairs of gloves as 2 pieces of PPE? on 17:11 - Apr 28 by longtimefan |
A single use glove is a throwaway item. You might only use one at a time - in fact the reason I was given gloves by my neighbour was for dealing with dog poo and it only required the use on one glove. |
Well unless it was rather large turd you woulnt want it break in half would you | | | |
| Did the government really count pairs of gloves as 2 pieces of PPE? on 21:37 - Apr 28 with 1069 views | bluejacko |
| Did the government really count pairs of gloves as 2 pieces of PPE? on 20:03 - Apr 28 by monytowbray |
Boris Is Doing A Great Jobâ„¢ |
So Boris decides on who goes on one ward or another!
I would have thought it is the people running that particular hospital that makes that kind of decision. But hay ho lets blame Boris. |  | | |
| Did the government really count pairs of gloves as 2 pieces of PPE? on 21:49 - Apr 28 with 1058 views | monytowbray |
| Did the government really count pairs of gloves as 2 pieces of PPE? on 21:37 - Apr 28 by bluejacko |
So Boris decides on who goes on one ward or another!
I would have thought it is the people running that particular hospital that makes that kind of decision. But hay ho lets blame Boris. |
Ah, so he’s a hero but anything that goes wrong was someone else’s fault.
Okay. Got it. | |
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| Did the government really count pairs of gloves as 2 pieces of PPE? on 22:51 - Apr 28 with 1033 views | Lord_Lucan |
| Did the government really count pairs of gloves as 2 pieces of PPE? on 19:06 - Apr 28 by NewcyBlue |
I have no idea what pwning means.
I do think people were just willing to give the government the benefit of the doubt. A mistrust is also understandable.
I do think that engaging with people respectfully and discussing is the way forward though. Except racists. Punch a racist. |
There will be plenty of things that the government could have done better, I am absolutely sure that there are loads of mistakes they have made and there will be many more they will make.
We are not German
We nearly were, but we're not. |  |
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| Did the government really count pairs of gloves as 2 pieces of PPE? on 22:57 - Apr 28 with 1030 views | Swansea_Blue |
It’s an Equalities Act 2010 requirement to ensure they’re being inclusive towards amputees. Def info  . |  |
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| Did the government really count pairs of gloves as 2 pieces of PPE? on 00:40 - Apr 29 with 1008 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Did the government really count pairs of gloves as 2 pieces of PPE? on 17:15 - Apr 28 by Lord_Lucan |
Don't be a dork Noggin, this is exactly how medical gloves are counted. This is in fact not in question.
When a hospital is stock counting their supply they count singularly, always have done. They are also ordered singularly.
Question. How many gloves are supplied in this box?
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It's when they're reported as 100 sets of PPE there's a problem. Or at least I think that was the gist of what was going on. | |
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| Did the government really count pairs of gloves as 2 pieces of PPE? on 05:23 - Apr 29 with 984 views | noggin |
| Did the government really count pairs of gloves as 2 pieces of PPE? on 00:40 - Apr 29 by Swansea_Blue |
It's when they're reported as 100 sets of PPE there's a problem. Or at least I think that was the gist of what was going on. |
At last, we got there. Thank you Swanners. | |
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| Did the government really count pairs of gloves as 2 pieces of PPE? on 07:56 - Apr 29 with 938 views | Pinewoodblue |
| Did the government really count pairs of gloves as 2 pieces of PPE? on 05:23 - Apr 29 by noggin |
At last, we got there. Thank you Swanners. |
Not heard anyone comment on number of sets of PPE only on number of pieces. |  |
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| Did the government really count pairs of gloves as 2 pieces of PPE? on 08:05 - Apr 29 with 928 views | DanTheMan |
They do count gloves as a piece of PPE and that is probably correct.
For me the issue is more that we then say "we have a billion pieces of PPE!" that that is basically meaningless without any context of:
- What PPE that actually is. All very well that we have a billion pieces of PPE but if that was all entirely gloves then there's still an issue.
- How much we actually need.
Bit more on this here: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-52362707
This isn't exactly new though, these kind of statements where politicians come out with where they talk about a big number without context. See it all the time with funding.
"Oh we're putting X billion more in this year!" they'll proudly announce without telling you how much was cut before, or how much they need, or whether that is a real term rise or just covers inflation.
Same old bóllocks in a different way. |  |
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| Did the government really count pairs of gloves as 2 pieces of PPE? on 08:12 - Apr 29 with 925 views | Lord_Lucan |
| Did the government really count pairs of gloves as 2 pieces of PPE? on 08:05 - Apr 29 by DanTheMan |
They do count gloves as a piece of PPE and that is probably correct.
For me the issue is more that we then say "we have a billion pieces of PPE!" that that is basically meaningless without any context of:
- What PPE that actually is. All very well that we have a billion pieces of PPE but if that was all entirely gloves then there's still an issue.
- How much we actually need.
Bit more on this here: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-52362707
This isn't exactly new though, these kind of statements where politicians come out with where they talk about a big number without context. See it all the time with funding.
"Oh we're putting X billion more in this year!" they'll proudly announce without telling you how much was cut before, or how much they need, or whether that is a real term rise or just covers inflation.
Same old bóllocks in a different way. |
I don't disagree at all.
It's a bit like counting useless and dead stock when you want to show good figures in order to get a bank loan. | |
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| Did the government really count pairs of gloves as 2 pieces of PPE? on 08:16 - Apr 29 with 921 views | bluelagos |
| Did the government really count pairs of gloves as 2 pieces of PPE? on 08:05 - Apr 29 by DanTheMan |
They do count gloves as a piece of PPE and that is probably correct.
For me the issue is more that we then say "we have a billion pieces of PPE!" that that is basically meaningless without any context of:
- What PPE that actually is. All very well that we have a billion pieces of PPE but if that was all entirely gloves then there's still an issue.
- How much we actually need.
Bit more on this here: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-52362707
This isn't exactly new though, these kind of statements where politicians come out with where they talk about a big number without context. See it all the time with funding.
"Oh we're putting X billion more in this year!" they'll proudly announce without telling you how much was cut before, or how much they need, or whether that is a real term rise or just covers inflation.
Same old bóllocks in a different way. |
See our politicians talking about test capacity rather than tests carried out, as it dawns on them that they are not going to hit their target of 100k tests by the end of April... |  |
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| Did the government really count pairs of gloves as 2 pieces of PPE? on 09:31 - Apr 29 with 889 views | noggin |
| Did the government really count pairs of gloves as 2 pieces of PPE? on 07:56 - Apr 29 by Pinewoodblue |
Not heard anyone comment on number of sets of PPE only on number of pieces. |
Of PPE. Gloves are not classed as a piece of PPE until there are 2 of them. | |
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| Did the government really count pairs of gloves as 2 pieces of PPE? on 09:51 - Apr 29 with 866 views | Pinewoodblue |
| Did the government really count pairs of gloves as 2 pieces of PPE? on 09:31 - Apr 29 by noggin |
Of PPE. Gloves are not classed as a piece of PPE until there are 2 of them. |
You are never going to admit you are wrong are you? | |
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| Did the government really count pairs of gloves as 2 pieces of PPE? on 10:11 - Apr 29 with 850 views | brazil1982 |
| Did the government really count pairs of gloves as 2 pieces of PPE? on 21:49 - Apr 28 by monytowbray |
Ah, so he’s a hero but anything that goes wrong was someone else’s fault.
Okay. Got it. |
He's certainly not a hero but I am sure he doesn't decide where patients are placed in a particular hospital. Anything that goes wrong is his fault I guess. |  | | |
| Did the government really count pairs of gloves as 2 pieces of PPE? on 10:20 - Apr 29 with 844 views | monytowbray |
| Did the government really count pairs of gloves as 2 pieces of PPE? on 09:51 - Apr 29 by Pinewoodblue |
You are never going to admit you are wrong are you? |
Is he “wrong” though? It’s a game of context and spin from the government. That’s his point.
Don’t get too hung up on the small details of a glove and look at the bigger picture of what’s being said. | |
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