| Any of you nerdy lot know domesticity rules 10:02 - May 20 with 3497 views | Keno |
I have just been asked by someone "if Scotland gets independence would a scot living in Scotland been been to automatically have Scottish domesticity or will that only happen after they have lived in Scotland for 18 years after independence"
There is a relevance with regards to potential IHT issues that may arise with that 18 year period |  |
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| Any of you nerdy lot know domesticity rules on 12:39 - May 20 with 1419 views | Guthrum |
| Any of you nerdy lot know domesticity rules on 12:12 - May 20 by leitrimblue |
Surely they will just sit back an live off the reparations the English owe um for the first few years? |
Only once they've paid England back for bailing them out in 1707 (adjusted for inflation, plus interest). |  |
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| Any of you nerdy lot know domesticity rules on 12:39 - May 20 with 1419 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| Any of you nerdy lot know domesticity rules on 12:30 - May 20 by Darth_Koont |
I presumed you meant money coming into the economy not just money moving around within it. Foreign tourism isn't that big outside of London. Proportionally there's more of a balance between the capital and the rest of the country in Scottish tourism.
Of course, the English coming to Scotland would now be foreign tourism. And Scots will still come to London. |
The number of foreign tourists to the likes of York and Liverpool is huge. Chinese and US.
I certainly suspect that foreign tourism to the English National Parks is at the very least comparable to the Highlands etc.
Just because London is successful as a tourist destination, doesn't mean that the huge amounts of foreign tourism to the rest of the country isn't relevant. |  |
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| Any of you nerdy lot know domesticity rules on 12:44 - May 20 with 1416 views | WeWereZombies |
| Any of you nerdy lot know domesticity rules on 12:01 - May 20 by Darth_Koont |
Simple answer, yes it is. The Highlands and Islands plus golf courses attract a lot of people. It's not like English tourism which is basically London.
Indeed. I suspect we'll have to go down a bit of the Irish route to encourage the financial services and foreign corporate interests.
But the key is to look at the whole and compare it to these countries in Northern Europe who lacked the overall capability initially. But now whose economies outperform Scotland and all other regions of the UK bar London and the South East. The key is not having your own country's needs subservient to something else entirely. |
Tourism has taken a missive hit through the pandemic and there will be many small businesses that either go to the wall or decide that it is time to retire from running a B&B etc. This, in turn, will reduce capacity. There is also a surprising appetite amongst residents who are not dependent on tourism to resist a resurgence in the type of tourist invasion that has been growing exponentially over the last few years.
The combination of good weather and having the roads to ourselves (with the resulting calmer speeds and no one driving on the wrong side of the road) is frequently commented upon. There is an element of tourists destroying what they have come to appreciate (and not even realising that the subsequent lower grade on offer is poor compared to what was there before), but I think there will be a welcome later in the year when financial reality bites and perhaps with a view to encouraging top end visits and rough and ready campers and backpackers in preference to the crush of campervans and hire cars booked into Airbnbs.
Whichever way it falls, tourism alone is not a suitable industry to base an economy on. Changing climate, changing farming techniques and changing consumer demand may see Scotland expand agriculture and fishing to an extent that it will be comparable to Ireland as a food producer in future. |  |
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| Any of you nerdy lot know domesticity rules on 12:53 - May 20 with 1415 views | giant_stow |
| Any of you nerdy lot know domesticity rules on 12:39 - May 20 by Marshalls_Mullet |
The number of foreign tourists to the likes of York and Liverpool is huge. Chinese and US.
I certainly suspect that foreign tourism to the English National Parks is at the very least comparable to the Highlands etc.
Just because London is successful as a tourist destination, doesn't mean that the huge amounts of foreign tourism to the rest of the country isn't relevant. |
Stonehenge, Canterbury, Oxford, Cambridge all spring to mind too.
Edit: and the Lake District - striking how many foreign number plates we saw around there when on holiday a few years back. [Post edited 20 May 2020 12:55]
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| Any of you nerdy lot know domesticity rules on 12:58 - May 20 with 1409 views | Darth_Koont |
| Any of you nerdy lot know domesticity rules on 12:39 - May 20 by Marshalls_Mullet |
The number of foreign tourists to the likes of York and Liverpool is huge. Chinese and US.
I certainly suspect that foreign tourism to the English National Parks is at the very least comparable to the Highlands etc.
Just because London is successful as a tourist destination, doesn't mean that the huge amounts of foreign tourism to the rest of the country isn't relevant. |
But proportionally it's low outside of London.
There's also a different function in Scotland. Tourism particularly eco-tourism is a good way of supporting Scottish nature and remote communities. That's not the same challenge in England. |  |
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| Any of you nerdy lot know domesticity rules on 12:59 - May 20 with 1406 views | leitrimblue |
| Any of you nerdy lot know domesticity rules on 12:39 - May 20 by Guthrum |
Only once they've paid England back for bailing them out in 1707 (adjusted for inflation, plus interest). |
I'd like to think that living descendants of the members of the Scottish Darien Company ( especially the Hamiltons) will cover that |  | | |
| Any of you nerdy lot know domesticity rules on 13:09 - May 20 with 1390 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| Any of you nerdy lot know domesticity rules on 12:53 - May 20 by giant_stow |
Stonehenge, Canterbury, Oxford, Cambridge all spring to mind too.
Edit: and the Lake District - striking how many foreign number plates we saw around there when on holiday a few years back. [Post edited 20 May 2020 12:55]
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Lake District and Cotswolds are huge for foreign visitors. | |
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| Any of you nerdy lot know domesticity rules on 13:10 - May 20 with 1388 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| Any of you nerdy lot know domesticity rules on 12:58 - May 20 by Darth_Koont |
But proportionally it's low outside of London.
There's also a different function in Scotland. Tourism particularly eco-tourism is a good way of supporting Scottish nature and remote communities. That's not the same challenge in England. |
Tourism is huge outside London, it really can't be discounted.
I'd be keen to see your figures. | |
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| Any of you nerdy lot know domesticity rules on 13:10 - May 20 with 1388 views | Darth_Koont |
| Any of you nerdy lot know domesticity rules on 12:44 - May 20 by WeWereZombies |
Tourism has taken a missive hit through the pandemic and there will be many small businesses that either go to the wall or decide that it is time to retire from running a B&B etc. This, in turn, will reduce capacity. There is also a surprising appetite amongst residents who are not dependent on tourism to resist a resurgence in the type of tourist invasion that has been growing exponentially over the last few years.
The combination of good weather and having the roads to ourselves (with the resulting calmer speeds and no one driving on the wrong side of the road) is frequently commented upon. There is an element of tourists destroying what they have come to appreciate (and not even realising that the subsequent lower grade on offer is poor compared to what was there before), but I think there will be a welcome later in the year when financial reality bites and perhaps with a view to encouraging top end visits and rough and ready campers and backpackers in preference to the crush of campervans and hire cars booked into Airbnbs.
Whichever way it falls, tourism alone is not a suitable industry to base an economy on. Changing climate, changing farming techniques and changing consumer demand may see Scotland expand agriculture and fishing to an extent that it will be comparable to Ireland as a food producer in future. |
Agree with all that. Needs to be sustainable particularly outside of Edinburgh but the foreign tourism at least would be used to balance the costs of serving these more remote communities and maintaining transport infrastructure. | |
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| Any of you nerdy lot know domesticity rules on 13:15 - May 20 with 1387 views | Darth_Koont |
| Any of you nerdy lot know domesticity rules on 13:10 - May 20 by Marshalls_Mullet |
Tourism is huge outside London, it really can't be discounted.
I'd be keen to see your figures. |
I'm not discounting it. I'm just saying proportionally London is the big draw for foreign visitors and there's far less outside.
I'm talking about the importance of tourism outside the capital in a future nation of 5 million not 55 million. | |
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| Any of you nerdy lot know domesticity rules on 13:20 - May 20 with 1378 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| Any of you nerdy lot know domesticity rules on 13:15 - May 20 by Darth_Koont |
I'm not discounting it. I'm just saying proportionally London is the big draw for foreign visitors and there's far less outside.
I'm talking about the importance of tourism outside the capital in a future nation of 5 million not 55 million. |
I'm pleased you're not dismissing it. | |
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| Any of you nerdy lot know domesticity rules on 13:25 - May 20 with 1373 views | Darth_Koont |
| Any of you nerdy lot know domesticity rules on 13:20 - May 20 by Marshalls_Mullet |
I'm pleased you're not dismissing it. |
So am I? | |
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| Any of you nerdy lot know domesticity rules on 13:26 - May 20 with 1371 views | Keno |
| Any of you nerdy lot know domesticity rules on 12:00 - May 20 by factual_blue |
Do you have to have a domesticity injection against Covid-19? |
yes, the nurse is waiting for you now
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| Any of you nerdy lot know domesticity rules on 13:28 - May 20 with 1366 views | Keno |
| Any of you nerdy lot know domesticity rules on 12:59 - May 20 by leitrimblue |
I'd like to think that living descendants of the members of the Scottish Darien Company ( especially the Hamiltons) will cover that |
Hamiltons you say ....
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| Any of you nerdy lot know domesticity rules on 13:43 - May 20 with 1361 views | Clapham_Junction |
Usually when part of a country becomes independent, all citizens of the original country living in the breakaway part are offered (or automatically given) citizenship of the new state at the time of independence.
There have been a few exceptions — such as Latvia and Estonia only giving citizenship to people who were descendants of citizens of the countries before they were taken over by the USSR in 1940 and not Russians who settled there afterwards — but these have tended to be where there are ethnic-related tensions (the Russians were seen as having been deliberately and illegally transferred to the Baltic states in an attempt to russify them), so I don't think would apply in the case of Scotland. |  | | |
| Any of you nerdy lot know domesticity rules on 13:44 - May 20 with 1359 views | leitrimblue |
| Any of you nerdy lot know domesticity rules on 13:28 - May 20 by Keno |
Hamiltons you say ....
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Think they are related. Hamilton is not a very popular name around North Leitrim | | | |
| Any of you nerdy lot know domesticity rules on 13:49 - May 20 with 1353 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Any of you nerdy lot know domesticity rules on 13:26 - May 20 by Keno |
yes, the nurse is waiting for you now
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Exactly as I picture badger. Def info. |  |
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| Any of you nerdy lot know domesticity rules on 13:53 - May 20 with 1346 views | Keno |
| Any of you nerdy lot know domesticity rules on 13:43 - May 20 by Clapham_Junction |
Usually when part of a country becomes independent, all citizens of the original country living in the breakaway part are offered (or automatically given) citizenship of the new state at the time of independence.
There have been a few exceptions — such as Latvia and Estonia only giving citizenship to people who were descendants of citizens of the countries before they were taken over by the USSR in 1940 and not Russians who settled there afterwards — but these have tended to be where there are ethnic-related tensions (the Russians were seen as having been deliberately and illegally transferred to the Baltic states in an attempt to russify them), so I don't think would apply in the case of Scotland. |
yes but citizenship is different to domesticity
I am an Irish citizen but I UK domiciled | |
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| Any of you nerdy lot know domesticity rules on 13:55 - May 20 with 1344 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| Any of you nerdy lot know domesticity rules on 13:25 - May 20 by Darth_Koont |
So am I? |
Whats the question? | |
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| Any of you nerdy lot know domesticity rules on 13:56 - May 20 with 1340 views | Keno |
| Any of you nerdy lot know domesticity rules on 13:49 - May 20 by Swansea_Blue |
Exactly as I picture badger. Def info. |
more like
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| Any of you nerdy lot know domesticity rules on 13:56 - May 20 with 1337 views | WD19 |
There will be none left after the Yorkshire hordes have cleansed the place in a post-independence ‘reckoning’. |  | | |
| Any of you nerdy lot know domesticity rules on 14:00 - May 20 with 1328 views | Keno |
| Any of you nerdy lot know domesticity rules on 13:56 - May 20 by WD19 |
There will be none left after the Yorkshire hordes have cleansed the place in a post-independence ‘reckoning’. |
Do you not think we could chuck the Geordies and Norfolk in as part of a Scottish independence deal?
Might give Norwich the chance to win something | |
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| Any of you nerdy lot know domesticity rules on 14:23 - May 20 with 1314 views | factual_blue |
| Any of you nerdy lot know domesticity rules on 13:56 - May 20 by Keno |
more like
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He's already admitted that this is him
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| Any of you nerdy lot know domesticity rules on 14:53 - May 20 with 1304 views | Clapham_Junction |
| Any of you nerdy lot know domesticity rules on 13:53 - May 20 by Keno |
yes but citizenship is different to domesticity
I am an Irish citizen but I UK domiciled |
Ah good point.
I showed my partner (an immigration lawyer) the question and she said it can't really be answered properly because you don't know what legislation on domiciling the new Scottish government would introduce (whether they would carry on with UK rules or introduce their own). [Post edited 20 May 2020 14:56]
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| Any of you nerdy lot know domesticity rules on 15:01 - May 20 with 1287 views | Keno |
| Any of you nerdy lot know domesticity rules on 14:53 - May 20 by Clapham_Junction |
Ah good point.
I showed my partner (an immigration lawyer) the question and she said it can't really be answered properly because you don't know what legislation on domiciling the new Scottish government would introduce (whether they would carry on with UK rules or introduce their own). [Post edited 20 May 2020 14:56]
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Thanks, that's kind of what I said to my client this morning.
I thought it would a different discussion on here.
Your partner isn't a Town fan by any chance? | |
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