Could someone explain how cummings press conference has made even 20:46 - May 25 with 2274 views | giant_stow | Minded tories feel everythings ok after all please? I don't understand why the likes of dan hodges think thats all ok? Think i must be missing something.... Edit: apologies for the semi-literate question but jope you get my drift. [Post edited 25 May 2020 20:50]
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Could someone explain how cummings press conference has made even on 20:53 - May 25 with 1698 views | SpruceMoose | Even...minded...conservatives? Eh? |  |
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Could someone explain how cummings press conference has made even on 20:56 - May 25 with 1675 views | BlueBadger | Because they've ultimately bought into the whole morally bankrupt creed that the modern Tory party espouses. |  |
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Could someone explain how cummings press conference has made even on 20:57 - May 25 with 1658 views | giant_stow |
Could someone explain how cummings press conference has made even on 20:53 - May 25 by SpruceMoose | Even...minded...conservatives? Eh? |
Im just not nailing this! Another try: why does Cummings' argument work? Why is it acceptable to some people? |  |
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Could someone explain how cummings press conference has made even on 20:58 - May 25 with 1650 views | SpruceMoose |
Could someone explain how cummings press conference has made even on 20:57 - May 25 by giant_stow | Im just not nailing this! Another try: why does Cummings' argument work? Why is it acceptable to some people? |
Because politics is so tribal now that lying is fine if it's your side doing it. |  |
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"Imagine being a heterosexual white male in Britain at this moment. How bad is that. Everything you say is racist, everything you say is homophobic. The Woke community have really f****d this country." | Poll: | Selectamod |
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Could someone explain how cummings press conference has made even on 20:59 - May 25 with 1641 views | giant_stow |
Could someone explain how cummings press conference has made even on 20:56 - May 25 by BlueBadger | Because they've ultimately bought into the whole morally bankrupt creed that the modern Tory party espouses. |
Thanks mr, but i guess i mean on a technical level? How didnt he break the guidelines? It all seems so flimsy, so i must be missing something.... |  |
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Could someone explain how cummings press conference has made even on 21:01 - May 25 with 1629 views | BlueBadger |
Could someone explain how cummings press conference has made even on 20:59 - May 25 by giant_stow | Thanks mr, but i guess i mean on a technical level? How didnt he break the guidelines? It all seems so flimsy, so i must be missing something.... |
Basically, what Sprucey said 'it's alright if it's my team doing it'. |  |
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Could someone explain how cummings press conference has made even on 21:02 - May 25 with 1624 views | giant_stow |
Could someone explain how cummings press conference has made even on 20:58 - May 25 by SpruceMoose | Because politics is so tribal now that lying is fine if it's your side doing it. |
It cant just be that surely... |  |
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Could someone explain how cummings press conference has made even on 21:03 - May 25 with 1618 views | SpruceMoose |
Could someone explain how cummings press conference has made even on 21:01 - May 25 by BlueBadger | Basically, what Sprucey said 'it's alright if it's my team doing it'. |
Of course, if Starmer had done this it would result in a complete meltdown by the exact same people who are currently fine with Cummings' actions. |  |
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Could someone explain how cummings press conference has made even on 21:04 - May 25 with 1604 views | BlueBadger |
Could someone explain how cummings press conference has made even on 21:03 - May 25 by SpruceMoose | Of course, if Starmer had done this it would result in a complete meltdown by the exact same people who are currently fine with Cummings' actions. |
Actually saw someone today saying 'you weren't getting angry about this when Jeremy Corbyn's brother was getting arrested for breaking the rules'. To which the answer is of course, 'no, because he actually suffered the consequences of his actions'. |  |
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Could someone explain how cummings press conference has made even on 21:04 - May 25 with 1602 views | SpruceMoose |
Could someone explain how cummings press conference has made even on 21:02 - May 25 by giant_stow | It cant just be that surely... |
I think it is. The UK might be a few years behind the US but you're heading tk the same destination. People don't recognise it, it seems weird and impossible, but it's happening. It's already happened |  |
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Could someone explain how cummings press conference has made even on 21:04 - May 25 with 1598 views | WD19 |
Could someone explain how cummings press conference has made even on 20:57 - May 25 by giant_stow | Im just not nailing this! Another try: why does Cummings' argument work? Why is it acceptable to some people? |
It’s the old Darren Huckerby question. Just how!? |  | |  |
Could someone explain how cummings press conference has made even on 21:05 - May 25 with 1590 views | giant_stow |
Could someone explain how cummings press conference has made even on 21:01 - May 25 by BlueBadger | Basically, what Sprucey said 'it's alright if it's my team doing it'. |
Tbh, i just refuse thats enough for a decent tory (that i mean someone whose heart is in the right place and wants the best for all memebers of society, even if they're misguided on how to achieve that.... |  |
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Could someone explain how cummings press conference has made even on 21:05 - May 25 with 1587 views | SpruceMoose |
Could someone explain how cummings press conference has made even on 21:04 - May 25 by BlueBadger | Actually saw someone today saying 'you weren't getting angry about this when Jeremy Corbyn's brother was getting arrested for breaking the rules'. To which the answer is of course, 'no, because he actually suffered the consequences of his actions'. |
Labour Conservative Celtics Rangers. Is there a difference anymore? Everything is justifiable if it's your team doing it. |  |
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"Imagine being a heterosexual white male in Britain at this moment. How bad is that. Everything you say is racist, everything you say is homophobic. The Woke community have really f****d this country." | Poll: | Selectamod |
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Could someone explain how cummings press conference has made even on 21:07 - May 25 with 1581 views | SpruceMoose |
Could someone explain how cummings press conference has made even on 21:05 - May 25 by giant_stow | Tbh, i just refuse thats enough for a decent tory (that i mean someone whose heart is in the right place and wants the best for all memebers of society, even if they're misguided on how to achieve that.... |
Wanting the best for all members of society is the complete antithesis of being a Conservative though? |  |
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Could someone explain how cummings press conference has made even on 21:07 - May 25 with 1578 views | BlueNomad |
Could someone explain how cummings press conference has made even on 20:57 - May 25 by giant_stow | Im just not nailing this! Another try: why does Cummings' argument work? Why is it acceptable to some people? |
I will be careful how I word this because earlier I started a thread for which I got slaughtered - until one person re-read my OP. Cummings will have gained sympathy for talking about his child’s sickness and he has not been dealt the killer blow by the press which would come if they produced evidence he made more than one trip. Those who have “the faith” will continue to do so. Like many I will still be told at work that this miserable crew are “doing a good job.” Support for them is a cult. |  | |  |
Could someone explain how cummings press conference has made even on 21:08 - May 25 with 1573 views | giant_stow |
Could someone explain how cummings press conference has made even on 21:04 - May 25 by WD19 | It’s the old Darren Huckerby question. Just how!? |
Stop being mean ti lovely Darren, brute! |  |
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Could someone explain how cummings press conference has made even on 21:08 - May 25 with 1564 views | giant_stow |
Ta. |  |
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Could someone explain how cummings press conference has made even on 21:10 - May 25 with 1556 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
Could someone explain how cummings press conference has made even on 20:59 - May 25 by giant_stow | Thanks mr, but i guess i mean on a technical level? How didnt he break the guidelines? It all seems so flimsy, so i must be missing something.... |
Because if you take his story at absolute face value, the rules were woolly enough in allowing for them to be breached in exceptional circumstances relating to children However, it requires a pretty large suspension of belief to accept he had no other choice to take the course of action he did, or indeed that the rationale given for all parts of the trip are believable. And that’s before you get into the ridiculousness of going for a drive to check your eyesight The journalist that stated that even if he hadn’t breached the rules on a technicality, he had driven a horse and cart through the spirit of them was absolutely spot on |  |
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Could someone explain how cummings press conference has made even on 21:11 - May 25 with 1545 views | Chutney | I think they've bored people into submission. |  | |  |
Could someone explain how cummings press conference has made even on 21:13 - May 25 with 1530 views | giant_stow |
Could someone explain how cummings press conference has made even on 21:07 - May 25 by SpruceMoose | Wanting the best for all members of society is the complete antithesis of being a Conservative though? |
I thinking of the ones who reckon the market pulls everyone up. Imo of course, some of those ones mean well, but are just wrong about the methodology. |  |
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Could someone explain how cummings press conference has made even on 21:13 - May 25 with 1527 views | Swansea_Blue |
Could someone explain how cummings press conference has made even on 21:02 - May 25 by giant_stow | It cant just be that surely... |
it is, sadly. We know he broke the law, he knows he broke the law. But his supporters don't need to be told that. Spin them any old shoite and they'll go along with it. A post truth utopia for those in power. |  |
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Could someone explain how cummings press conference has made even on 21:17 - May 25 with 1501 views | SpruceMoose |
Could someone explain how cummings press conference has made even on 21:13 - May 25 by giant_stow | I thinking of the ones who reckon the market pulls everyone up. Imo of course, some of those ones mean well, but are just wrong about the methodology. |
Ah the ones who ignore history and evidence. Got you. |  |
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Could someone explain how cummings press conference has made even on 21:19 - May 25 with 1481 views | giant_stow |
Read that now. I spose it is a legally important proviso but it doesnt change the one rule for us, one for them perception, when so many parents will have toughed it out. |  |
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Could someone explain how cummings press conference has made even on 21:22 - May 25 with 1470 views | giant_stow |
Could someone explain how cummings press conference has made even on 21:07 - May 25 by BlueNomad | I will be careful how I word this because earlier I started a thread for which I got slaughtered - until one person re-read my OP. Cummings will have gained sympathy for talking about his child’s sickness and he has not been dealt the killer blow by the press which would come if they produced evidence he made more than one trip. Those who have “the faith” will continue to do so. Like many I will still be told at work that this miserable crew are “doing a good job.” Support for them is a cult. |
I'm genuinely sad to read that last bit. |  |
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