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Just taken the dog down the river for quick run and splash. Tons of f*cking litter left strewn everywhere by some dirty c*nts who've been having a barbecue down by a bone-dry cornfield and them left their debris everywhere.
However, they'd thoughtfully left behind all the carrier bags they'd brought all their crap down their wish so I was able to pick it up and remove it before it did some damage to the local dogs and wildlife.
*Patridge off*
I'm one of the people who was blamed for getting Paul Cook sacked. PM for the full post.
Maybe the term Pikey was out of place however I'm not sure why you wish to keep linking the 'n' word to expand your argument. I'm just as outraged that some on this site are more offended by my poor terminology than the fact that a group of people choose to be cruel to animals and also be deliberately offensive to a community they have encroached upon.
I would have be just as offended if twenty locals chose to act the way this bunch did. I'm sure some of the travelling community must also be annoyed that groups such as these do nothing to help the image.
It’s not “my” argument, it’s eastanglian’s, although I get why he chose to use it to illustrate his point, both are racial slurs.
Maybe the term Pikey was out of place however I'm not sure why you wish to keep linking the 'n' word to expand your argument. I'm just as outraged that some on this site are more offended by my poor terminology than the fact that a group of people choose to be cruel to animals and also be deliberately offensive to a community they have encroached upon.
I would have be just as offended if twenty locals chose to act the way this bunch did. I'm sure some of the travelling community must also be annoyed that groups such as these do nothing to help the image.
I agree with your first post and this reply to the outrage.
The point is how a section of society ignore the rule of law and sense of community. They are also at the front of the queue shouting 'discrimination' when they get a few fingers wagged at them.
Join in and play by the rules. People will be more flexible and accommodating. (That is my message to the scrotes)
P/S: I have used the word 'scrote' to replace pikey. Hope that's Ok for anyone who might be offended.
Assumption is to make an ass out of you and me.
Those who assume they know you, when they don't are just guessing.
Those who assume and insist they know are daft and in denial.
Those who assume, insist, and deny the truth are plain stupid.
Those who assume, insist, deny the truth and tell YOU they know you (when they don't) have an IQ in the range of 35-49.
I agree with your first post and this reply to the outrage.
The point is how a section of society ignore the rule of law and sense of community. They are also at the front of the queue shouting 'discrimination' when they get a few fingers wagged at them.
Join in and play by the rules. People will be more flexible and accommodating. (That is my message to the scrotes)
P/S: I have used the word 'scrote' to replace pikey. Hope that's Ok for anyone who might be offended.
I don’t think anyone’s offended, are they? It’s just been highlighted that using the term “pikey” is a sh1t house thing to do.
Maybe the term Pikey was out of place however I'm not sure why you wish to keep linking the 'n' word to expand your argument. I'm just as outraged that some on this site are more offended by my poor terminology than the fact that a group of people choose to be cruel to animals and also be deliberately offensive to a community they have encroached upon.
I would have be just as offended if twenty locals chose to act the way this bunch did. I'm sure some of the travelling community must also be annoyed that groups such as these do nothing to help the image.
Again, who’s “offended”?
I think it’s being discussed quite sensibly, not sure why you wardens of free speech are so keen on shutting it down by claiming offence on behalf of people that are engaging in sensible discussion and debate...
Maybe the term Pikey was out of place however I'm not sure why you wish to keep linking the 'n' word to expand your argument. I'm just as outraged that some on this site are more offended by my poor terminology than the fact that a group of people choose to be cruel to animals and also be deliberately offensive to a community they have encroached upon.
I would have be just as offended if twenty locals chose to act the way this bunch did. I'm sure some of the travelling community must also be annoyed that groups such as these do nothing to help the image.
Why on earth can't they be prosecuted for cruelty to the animals? really makes me angry does that. Surely just a matter of hanging around for an hour or two taking photos/videos. If the RSPCA can take handlers of dogs at Crufts to task for showing them on too tight a lead, wtf aren't they hauling off those leaving dogs in small crates exposed to blazing sun for hours to the nearest cop shop?
Fair enough, the amount of people who have viewed that post though and kept quiet has made me angry and a little upset to be honest. Seems as though travellers are still fair game in a lot of peoples eyes, like I say it's no different to using the N word. There would of been outrage on here if that word would of been used, and rightly so. Those same people who would of jumped straight on it (again rightly so) are remaining very silent now though.
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Got fed up of being accused of ruining the board to be honest. I'll leave it up to others to deal with now.
Enjoy your Hamstead wrangling!
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Pronouns: He/Him/His.
"Imagine being a heterosexual white male in Britain at this moment. How bad is that. Everything you say is racist, everything you say is homophobic. The Woke community have really f****d this country."
Actually my youngest brother has quite a few traveller friends, apparently they love it and often or not quote lines from it when out on the lash. Strange old world.
I reckon there's a lot of people like me who just don't know how to address the point. I am in complete agreement about tarnishing, but then so was the poster. The issue seems to be the word itself, rather than the sentiment aimed at this particular group of people he is talking about.
I could come from an innocent angle on this and still be jumped on so if we're gonna go there, bear with me:
I read the post as deliberately using that term in an effort to separate who the poster considers to be regular traveller folk and the types who give the community a bad name.
If the same terminology is used to describe all travellers then people get tarnished.
I'm quite happy to use the most appropriate terminology but honestly wouldn't know where to start.
"Some particular travellers who happened to be scumbags"? Maybe, but that still seems to have implications.
There used to be several terms used to differentiate between Romani and Irish travellers and the frauds who would go from place to place committing crimes to make a living.
As some of those terms have become more and more derogatory understandably many people don't want to generalise, so what to say, how to differentiate?
Yes I understand the N reference so that doesn't need to be stressed upon. I'm asking how, when describing a bunch of horrible people whose main aim in life seems to be stealing from others and ruining lives, are to be described to separate them properly from travellers who don't deserve to be lumped into the same category.
Firstly for the benefit of britbiker and hampstead I didn't mention the animal cruelty, as any decent human being would be sickened by it. I certainly would be and would never stand by and watch it happen.
Using the term Pikey to differenciate between good and bad is still wrong as it's a very derogatory term. I will use the N word as an example again because it is exactly the same. You wouldn't use the N word to differenciate between good and bad black people, so why is it seen as acceptable by a lot of people it seems, to use the term Pikey if it's in the same context?
Irish travellers and Romani are two distinct groups, who do not even originate from the same continent, yet by many are clumped together as one group. That does get up my back a little as I think it shows a level of ignorance.
Lastly I don't really get your point about what do you call the bad ones to seperate from the good ones. Surely there are good and bad in any race/ethnic group. Should we have a name to seperate bad white people? Bad black people? Why for travellers/romani does there have to to be a name to seperate good from bad? Is this just an excuse so people can use the term Pikey?
I agree with your first post and this reply to the outrage.
The point is how a section of society ignore the rule of law and sense of community. They are also at the front of the queue shouting 'discrimination' when they get a few fingers wagged at them.
Join in and play by the rules. People will be more flexible and accommodating. (That is my message to the scrotes)
P/S: I have used the word 'scrote' to replace pikey. Hope that's Ok for anyone who might be offended.
Would that rule of law extend to violence that you like to talk about so much?
Would that rule of law extend to violence that you like to talk about so much?
As it's a joke I think not. If it were real then I would march myself to the nearest cop shop and hand myself in.
It's Ok (for now)........
Assumption is to make an ass out of you and me.
Those who assume they know you, when they don't are just guessing.
Those who assume and insist they know are daft and in denial.
Those who assume, insist, and deny the truth are plain stupid.
Those who assume, insist, deny the truth and tell YOU they know you (when they don't) have an IQ in the range of 35-49.
Assumption is to make an ass out of you and me.
Those who assume they know you, when they don't are just guessing.
Those who assume and insist they know are daft and in denial.
Those who assume, insist, and deny the truth are plain stupid.
Those who assume, insist, deny the truth and tell YOU they know you (when they don't) have an IQ in the range of 35-49.
He’s saying that when he makes the kind of disturbingly violent posts about people that you were referencing it’s just a “joke” - he then attempted a neat little back track when he realised that wouldn’t wash...
He’s saying that when he makes the kind of disturbingly violent posts about people that you were referencing it’s just a “joke” - he then attempted a neat little back track when he realised that wouldn’t wash...
What on earth are you going on about?
You're assumptions are hilarious.
Assumption is to make an ass out of you and me.
Those who assume they know you, when they don't are just guessing.
Those who assume and insist they know are daft and in denial.
Those who assume, insist, and deny the truth are plain stupid.
Those who assume, insist, deny the truth and tell YOU they know you (when they don't) have an IQ in the range of 35-49.
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