| A dig at Lambert from the Wolf? 11:45 - Aug 26 with 14226 views | glasso |
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| A dig at Lambert from the Wolf? on 17:21 - Aug 27 with 863 views | BrixtonBlue |
| A dig at Lambert from the Wolf? on 16:45 - Aug 27 by Herbivore |
Phil has to remove libelous stuff so that he doesn't get sued. I'm not sure what that has to do with us discussing possible unrest amongst the players at ITFC? That's not libellous and it's precisely the sort of thing you might expect football fans to talk about regarding their club.
What does anything posted on here achieve, Dollers? Isn't this all just some people with a shared interest in ITFC passing the time and engaging in discussion? I don't think there's much more to it than that.
I don't want Lambert to fail. I didn't want him to fail last season either but he did, so what I want doesn't really matter much. I'd prefer him to be successful here as it would mean we are being successful, I'm just very sceptical about his capacity to do so. |
Why would people sue TWTD if anything discussed here is irrelevant?
The discussion was whether things posted here matter. If there's possible libel cases then that suggests they do, whatever they are.
We weren't discussing if club unrest was libellous. You're being disingenuous and anyone with half a brain can see through it.
"What does anything posted on here achieve, Dollers? Isn't this all just some people with a shared interest in ITFC passing the time and engaging in discussion? I don't think there's much more to it than that."
I've explained this. It spreads.
You're a disgrace as a supporter frankly. I've seen you post that you probably won't be going to any games this season. Why do you even care then? Why are you doing my club down when you don't even attend games? |  |
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| A dig at Lambert from the Wolf? on 17:22 - Aug 27 with 857 views | Herbivore |
| A dig at Lambert from the Wolf? on 17:21 - Aug 27 by BrixtonBlue |
Why would people sue TWTD if anything discussed here is irrelevant?
The discussion was whether things posted here matter. If there's possible libel cases then that suggests they do, whatever they are.
We weren't discussing if club unrest was libellous. You're being disingenuous and anyone with half a brain can see through it.
"What does anything posted on here achieve, Dollers? Isn't this all just some people with a shared interest in ITFC passing the time and engaging in discussion? I don't think there's much more to it than that."
I've explained this. It spreads.
You're a disgrace as a supporter frankly. I've seen you post that you probably won't be going to any games this season. Why do you even care then? Why are you doing my club down when you don't even attend games? |
Blub.
Libel has legal consequences, that's why libel matters for Phil and he removes it. People expressing non libellous opinions doesn't matter, that's why Phil generally doesn't remove them. I'm not sure why you're struggling with this.
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| A dig at Lambert from the Wolf? on 17:29 - Aug 27 with 834 views | BrixtonBlue |
| A dig at Lambert from the Wolf? on 17:17 - Aug 27 by tractorboy1978 |
To be honest, I don't give a sh!te whether you believe me or not.
And FWIW re wanting us to fail as per one of your other posts, I don't. I simply made a point that we have a manager starting the season with the big majority of the fans on his back and a squad of players that are at best 'meh' towards him. The negativity is already there, which is my point. Fingers will start pointing very quickly if we don't start like a house on fire. |
No, the negativity is being created by 'supporters' like you.
'the big majority of the fans on his back'
"a squad of players that are at best 'meh' towards him"
Any evidence for any of this?
You impatient modern supporters are all the same. A ball hasn't been kicked in anger yet. People like you are hamstringing the team before we even kick off. You're an utter disgrace, frankly. | |
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| A dig at Lambert from the Wolf? on 17:34 - Aug 27 with 828 views | BrixtonBlue |
| A dig at Lambert from the Wolf? on 17:22 - Aug 27 by Herbivore |
Blub.
Libel has legal consequences, that's why libel matters for Phil and he removes it. People expressing non libellous opinions doesn't matter, that's why Phil generally doesn't remove them. I'm not sure why you're struggling with this.
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So an eloquent post is a 'blub' now if it doesn't agree with your opinion?
You really are a prize canute aren't you? | |
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| A dig at Lambert from the Wolf? on 17:34 - Aug 27 with 827 views | The_Romford_Blue |
| A dig at Lambert from the Wolf? on 14:32 - Aug 27 by BrixtonBlue |
Which gives people the perfect opportunity to make up any old sh!t they like. |
Surely you can look at the poster and work out if it’s possibly true or not. Some people have genuine legit ‘def info’.
I found out Norwood was being signed in the summer all the way back in February and posted it on here. Def Info does exist sometimes in the world of sport.
Some will be bullsh**ters but that’s up to us to work our really ain’t it. |  |
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| A dig at Lambert from the Wolf? on 17:38 - Aug 27 with 810 views | BrixtonBlue |
| A dig at Lambert from the Wolf? on 17:34 - Aug 27 by The_Romford_Blue |
Surely you can look at the poster and work out if it’s possibly true or not. Some people have genuine legit ‘def info’.
I found out Norwood was being signed in the summer all the way back in February and posted it on here. Def Info does exist sometimes in the world of sport.
Some will be bullsh**ters but that’s up to us to work our really ain’t it. |
Oh are you back for good then?
How the hell is anyone supposed to work out the wheat from the chaff in this place? | |
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| A dig at Lambert from the Wolf? on 17:39 - Aug 27 with 810 views | tractorboy1978 |
| A dig at Lambert from the Wolf? on 17:29 - Aug 27 by BrixtonBlue |
No, the negativity is being created by 'supporters' like you.
'the big majority of the fans on his back'
"a squad of players that are at best 'meh' towards him"
Any evidence for any of this?
You impatient modern supporters are all the same. A ball hasn't been kicked in anger yet. People like you are hamstringing the team before we even kick off. You're an utter disgrace, frankly. |
I suppose the 'rumours' posted on here about discontent under Hurst were ultimately responsible for the negativity at the club too? They hamstrung the team didn't they? And those 'rumours' proved to be completely false right?
Frankly I am not sad enough to make something up on an internet forum. And as for calling me an 'impatient modern supporter' and an 'utter disgrace' - you don't know me. | | | |
| A dig at Lambert from the Wolf? on 17:47 - Aug 27 with 783 views | BrixtonBlue |
| A dig at Lambert from the Wolf? on 17:39 - Aug 27 by tractorboy1978 |
I suppose the 'rumours' posted on here about discontent under Hurst were ultimately responsible for the negativity at the club too? They hamstrung the team didn't they? And those 'rumours' proved to be completely false right?
Frankly I am not sad enough to make something up on an internet forum. And as for calling me an 'impatient modern supporter' and an 'utter disgrace' - you don't know me. |
So one true rumour makes all rumours true?! I hear that tractorboy1978 pokes badgers with spoons.
And in any case, what did those rumours achieve? It was the sh!t results that did for Hurst.
Get behind your club. If we're sh!t in the early stages, get angry then. This muck spreading before we even start does not benefit the team AT ALL.
Anyone spreading stuff that undermines the team before a season even starts is a sh!t supporter. If that's you, take it on the chin. | |
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| A dig at Lambert from the Wolf? on 17:47 - Aug 27 with 783 views | pointofblue |
| A dig at Lambert from the Wolf? on 17:13 - Aug 27 by BrixtonBlue |
I mean, do you want him to fail? It's a pretty simple question for a bright lad.
i know you like to shut down debate when the questions get a bit tough, as you did on our PMs, but give it a shot rather than running away this time. |
I can’t remember us having a conversation in PMs? I rarely, if ever, use them so I think you might be muddling me up with someone else.
To answer your question - I’d like him to succeed as manager of the club but with his record here I fear he won’t. He seems to be settling into a style of play but he did that before too, before panicking when results didn’t go our way and throwing everything up in the air.
But if he succeeds then we’ll succeed. | |
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| A dig at Lambert from the Wolf? on 17:54 - Aug 27 with 771 views | BrixtonBlue |
| A dig at Lambert from the Wolf? on 17:47 - Aug 27 by pointofblue |
I can’t remember us having a conversation in PMs? I rarely, if ever, use them so I think you might be muddling me up with someone else.
To answer your question - I’d like him to succeed as manager of the club but with his record here I fear he won’t. He seems to be settling into a style of play but he did that before too, before panicking when results didn’t go our way and throwing everything up in the air.
But if he succeeds then we’ll succeed. |
Sorry, confused you with Herbs. I asked him something he couldn't deal with because it proved him wrong, so he said let's leave it there.
Regarding the rest of your post, yes, exactly that. I'd like to put all this backbiting to one side, see how things start off and THEN complain. Otherwise, if the supporters aren't behind the team from the off, then we're just adding to the problem and are a self-fulfilling prophecy.
I'm just sick of the negativity to be honest. We've had a sh!t few months in all our lives, I'd like to see something positive now. Which reminds me, i need to ring my dad and see how his cancer test went! | |
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| A dig at Lambert from the Wolf? on 18:00 - Aug 27 with 765 views | tractorboy1978 |
| A dig at Lambert from the Wolf? on 17:47 - Aug 27 by BrixtonBlue |
So one true rumour makes all rumours true?! I hear that tractorboy1978 pokes badgers with spoons.
And in any case, what did those rumours achieve? It was the sh!t results that did for Hurst.
Get behind your club. If we're sh!t in the early stages, get angry then. This muck spreading before we even start does not benefit the team AT ALL.
Anyone spreading stuff that undermines the team before a season even starts is a sh!t supporter. If that's you, take it on the chin. |
I'd say several posters (a couple of which posted the Hurst 'rumours' which were proven true) making the same point in this one thread suggests there is likely truth in it, yes.
I've got behind my club for the last 25 years, thank you. | | | |
| A dig at Lambert from the Wolf? on 18:02 - Aug 27 with 762 views | pointofblue |
| A dig at Lambert from the Wolf? on 17:54 - Aug 27 by BrixtonBlue |
Sorry, confused you with Herbs. I asked him something he couldn't deal with because it proved him wrong, so he said let's leave it there.
Regarding the rest of your post, yes, exactly that. I'd like to put all this backbiting to one side, see how things start off and THEN complain. Otherwise, if the supporters aren't behind the team from the off, then we're just adding to the problem and are a self-fulfilling prophecy.
I'm just sick of the negativity to be honest. We've had a sh!t few months in all our lives, I'd like to see something positive now. Which reminds me, i need to ring my dad and see how his cancer test went! |
No worries.
I think there is automatically going to be some edginess and tension from supporters going into the new season after what happened last season - on paper we had one of the strongest squads in the league and we limped to eleventh with just four wins post October.
This all started because of a strange remark from Lambert about Woolfenden, who hadn’t even played that day, which coincided with Luke himself liking a tweet criticising that comment and posting a confused meme on his own Twitter account. If we had dominated last season and were back in the Championship we’d probably take it all with a pinch of salt; as it is, any signs of “one of our own” perhaps getting tetchy with a manager who is hardly popular due to his record is going to be leapt upon. It’d be the same at any other club in our position. | |
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| A dig at Lambert from the Wolf? on 18:03 - Aug 27 with 760 views | The_Romford_Blue |
| A dig at Lambert from the Wolf? on 17:38 - Aug 27 by BrixtonBlue |
Oh are you back for good then?
How the hell is anyone supposed to work out the wheat from the chaff in this place? |
I’m sort of back a bit here and there.
Every few days I log on and catch up. Have seen Libby has gone though. Interesting developments here in TWTD world. | |
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| A dig at Lambert from the Wolf? on 18:15 - Aug 27 with 748 views | Herbivore |
| A dig at Lambert from the Wolf? on 17:34 - Aug 27 by BrixtonBlue |
So an eloquent post is a 'blub' now if it doesn't agree with your opinion?
You really are a prize canute aren't you? |
Dollers, it was very much a blub. Look, you can't compare actual libel with people posting an opinion about Town and say that because Phil cares about libel it means that all posts matter. It's a terrible argument. Chances are if Phil left most of the libellous posts up nothing would happen as nobody of consequence would see them, but it simply isn't worth taking that chance. That doesn't mean that every post people make on here potentially has massive real world consequences.
As for me not being a real supporter, that's just a load of tosh. I've put a lot of time and money into the club over the years. I haven't renewed my season ticket because I'm moving to Scotland and can't really do a 14 hour round trip to make every home game. I'm not sure that means I'm not a real fan. Being critical of the manager doesn't mean you're not a supporter, if you care about the club you want to change the things that are holding it back and Lambert is holding us back in my opinion. I'm not accusing you of not being a supporter for failing to call for his head, even though I could make a cogent argument that anyone who wants us to progress should be trying to get Lambert out of the club.
Anyway, I appreciate you've got a lot on your mind today and rightly so. I hope that all pans out well for you. | |
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| A dig at Lambert from the Wolf? on 22:41 - Aug 27 with 676 views | BryanPlug |
| A dig at Lambert from the Wolf? on 14:32 - Aug 27 by BrixtonBlue |
Which gives people the perfect opportunity to make up any old sh!t they like. |
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| A dig at Lambert from the Wolf? on 08:13 - Aug 28 with 604 views | BrixtonBlue |
| A dig at Lambert from the Wolf? on 22:41 - Aug 27 by BryanPlug |
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In what world is spreading rumours about discontent "supporting a team"? I like how you bring transfer rumours into it in order to try and soften it a bit. | |
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| A dig at Lambert from the Wolf? on 11:02 - Aug 28 with 567 views | BryanPlug |
| A dig at Lambert from the Wolf? on 08:13 - Aug 28 by BrixtonBlue |
In what world is spreading rumours about discontent "supporting a team"? I like how you bring transfer rumours into it in order to try and soften it a bit. |
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| A dig at Lambert from the Wolf? on 12:00 - Aug 28 with 547 views | BrixtonBlue |
| A dig at Lambert from the Wolf? on 11:02 - Aug 28 by BryanPlug |
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And what has knowing these rumours achieved for you?
If you love gossip so much you should be on mumsnet, not here. | |
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