| Good to see we're not too fussed about opposing Nazism anymore... 17:44 - Dec 21 with 1468 views | monytowbray |
The USA actively want to encourage it.
CWCIFY? |  |
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| Good to see we're not too fussed about opposing Nazism anymore... on 17:49 - Dec 21 with 1422 views | pointofblue |
Must have been something deeper in the text which wasn’t liked by much of the West - France, Germany, Italy, Spain, Switzerland, The Netherlands, Australia and New Zealand, amongst others, abstained to. |  |
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| Good to see we're not too fussed about opposing Nazism anymore... on 17:54 - Dec 21 with 1388 views | Eireannach_gorm |
| Good to see we're not too fussed about opposing Nazism anymore... on 17:49 - Dec 21 by pointofblue |
Must have been something deeper in the text which wasn’t liked by much of the West - France, Germany, Italy, Spain, Switzerland, The Netherlands, Australia and New Zealand, amongst others, abstained to. |
Bloody EU again! Seriously, it is most strange with the number of abstentions. |  | | |
| Good to see we're not too fussed about opposing Nazism anymore... on 17:54 - Dec 21 with 1392 views | BlueBadger |
| Good to see we're not too fussed about opposing Nazism anymore... on 17:49 - Dec 21 by pointofblue |
Must have been something deeper in the text which wasn’t liked by much of the West - France, Germany, Italy, Spain, Switzerland, The Netherlands, Australia and New Zealand, amongst others, abstained to. |
Must have been particularly egregious, given that y'know opposing nazism should be a basic principle of civilised nations. |  |
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| Good to see we're not too fussed about opposing Nazism anymore... on 18:05 - Dec 21 with 1353 views | factual_blue |
| Good to see we're not too fussed about opposing Nazism anymore... on 17:54 - Dec 21 by BlueBadger |
Must have been particularly egregious, given that y'know opposing nazism should be a basic principle of civilised nations. |
For goodness sake, it was all a long time ago. |  |
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| Good to see we're not too fussed about opposing Nazism anymore... on 18:19 - Dec 21 with 1325 views | Ftnfwest |
Although invading other countries is still ok presumably? |  | | |
| Good to see we're not too fussed about opposing Nazism anymore... on 18:35 - Dec 21 with 1297 views | StokieBlue |
It's more complicated than the simple headline. It was a vote put forward by Russia which the other countries are claiming was to their own ends rather than actually opposing Nazism.
All of the EU countries discussed it and decided to abstain on block. The US and Canada also voted against it.
"The UN vote was discussed by EU foreign ministers last Monday (17 November) at a meeting that saw a number of ministers push for efforts at the EU level to counter what is seen as a long-term campaign by Russia to use propaganda to retain influence over countries in the EU’s and Russia’s shared neighbourhoods.
“If we care about the littering of the oceans, let’s also care about the littering of minds,” LinkeviÄius said, noting that Russia’s “misleading messages, lies and tricks” have been “really very, very efficient”."
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| Good to see we're not too fussed about opposing Nazism anymore... on 18:46 - Dec 21 with 1243 views | jaykay |
| Good to see we're not too fussed about opposing Nazism anymore... on 18:35 - Dec 21 by StokieBlue |
It's more complicated than the simple headline. It was a vote put forward by Russia which the other countries are claiming was to their own ends rather than actually opposing Nazism.
All of the EU countries discussed it and decided to abstain on block. The US and Canada also voted against it.
"The UN vote was discussed by EU foreign ministers last Monday (17 November) at a meeting that saw a number of ministers push for efforts at the EU level to counter what is seen as a long-term campaign by Russia to use propaganda to retain influence over countries in the EU’s and Russia’s shared neighbourhoods.
“If we care about the littering of the oceans, let’s also care about the littering of minds,” LinkeviÄius said, noting that Russia’s “misleading messages, lies and tricks” have been “really very, very efficient”."
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unless i 'm reading the chart wrong ,it shows canada abstained. i think the ukraine and the u.s.a. were the 2 countries who voted against it |  |
| forensic experts say footers and spruces fingerprints were not found at the scene after the weekends rows |
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| Good to see we're not too fussed about opposing Nazism anymore... on 18:55 - Dec 21 with 1216 views | monytowbray |
| Good to see we're not too fussed about opposing Nazism anymore... on 18:35 - Dec 21 by StokieBlue |
It's more complicated than the simple headline. It was a vote put forward by Russia which the other countries are claiming was to their own ends rather than actually opposing Nazism.
All of the EU countries discussed it and decided to abstain on block. The US and Canada also voted against it.
"The UN vote was discussed by EU foreign ministers last Monday (17 November) at a meeting that saw a number of ministers push for efforts at the EU level to counter what is seen as a long-term campaign by Russia to use propaganda to retain influence over countries in the EU’s and Russia’s shared neighbourhoods.
“If we care about the littering of the oceans, let’s also care about the littering of minds,” LinkeviÄius said, noting that Russia’s “misleading messages, lies and tricks” have been “really very, very efficient”."
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What was the misleading message? I’d be interested to see how it was worded.
Sounds like classic Russia though. | |
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| Good to see we're not too fussed about opposing Nazism anymore... on 19:55 - Dec 21 with 1123 views | StokieBlue |
| Good to see we're not too fussed about opposing Nazism anymore... on 18:46 - Dec 21 by jaykay |
unless i 'm reading the chart wrong ,it shows canada abstained. i think the ukraine and the u.s.a. were the 2 countries who voted against it |
I was going from the article I read which said 3 voted against. I might be wrong on Canada though.
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| Good to see we're not too fussed about opposing Nazism anymore... on 20:02 - Dec 21 with 1102 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Good to see we're not too fussed about opposing Nazism anymore... on 18:35 - Dec 21 by StokieBlue |
It's more complicated than the simple headline. It was a vote put forward by Russia which the other countries are claiming was to their own ends rather than actually opposing Nazism.
All of the EU countries discussed it and decided to abstain on block. The US and Canada also voted against it.
"The UN vote was discussed by EU foreign ministers last Monday (17 November) at a meeting that saw a number of ministers push for efforts at the EU level to counter what is seen as a long-term campaign by Russia to use propaganda to retain influence over countries in the EU’s and Russia’s shared neighbourhoods.
“If we care about the littering of the oceans, let’s also care about the littering of minds,” LinkeviÄius said, noting that Russia’s “misleading messages, lies and tricks” have been “really very, very efficient”."
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I mean what would Russia know about fighting façism? |  |
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| Good to see we're not too fussed about opposing Nazism anymore... on 21:18 - Dec 21 with 1014 views | Clapham_Junction |
| Good to see we're not too fussed about opposing Nazism anymore... on 18:55 - Dec 21 by monytowbray |
What was the misleading message? I’d be interested to see how it was worded.
Sounds like classic Russia though. |
It looks like it was aimed at Ukraine - Russia has regularly claimed Ukrainian nationalists are Neo-Nazis. The following parts of the motion in particular are aimed at their neighbours.
4. Expresses deep concern about the glorification, in any form, of the Nazi movement, neo-Nazism and former members of the Waffen SS organization, including by erecting monuments and memorials and holding public demonstrations in the name of the glorification of the Nazi past, the Nazi movement and neo-Nazism, as well as by declaring or attempting to declare such members and those who fought against the anti-Hitler coalition and collaborated with the Nazi movement participants in national liberation movements;
(this is a dig at Ukraine honouring people like Stepan Bandera and Andryi Melnyk)
7. Expresses concern about recurring attempts to desecrate or demolish monuments erected in remembrance of those who fought against Nazism during the Second World War
(probably aimed at Ukraine's 2015 Decommunisation law) |  | | |
| Good to see we're not too fussed about opposing Nazism anymore... on 21:29 - Dec 21 with 986 views | BlueBadger |
| Good to see we're not too fussed about opposing Nazism anymore... on 20:02 - Dec 21 by BanksterDebtSlave |
I mean what would Russia know about fighting façism? |
Nearly as much as they do about helping them win elections? | |
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| Good to see we're not too fussed about opposing Nazism anymore... on 21:53 - Dec 21 with 950 views | StokieBlue |
| Good to see we're not too fussed about opposing Nazism anymore... on 20:02 - Dec 21 by BanksterDebtSlave |
I mean what would Russia know about fighting façism? |
You are aware that WW2 ended 75 years ago right?
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| Good to see we're not too fussed about opposing Nazism anymore... on 10:58 - Dec 22 with 775 views | Tangledupin_Blue |
| Good to see we're not too fussed about opposing Nazism anymore... on 17:49 - Dec 21 by pointofblue |
Must have been something deeper in the text which wasn’t liked by much of the West - France, Germany, Italy, Spain, Switzerland, The Netherlands, Australia and New Zealand, amongst others, abstained to. |
...and U. K. ... |  |
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