| Offside 14:21 - Feb 15 with 790 views | hype313 |
Anyone see the Leicester goal at the weekend? To me the players arm and hip looked/was clearly offside but it was still given?
Seems all over the place, unless I'm missing a key facet of this new rule? |  |
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| Offside on 14:25 - Feb 15 with 774 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
Can’t be offside with your arm as only parts of the body that can play the ball count. That’s always been the case but obviously magnified by every close decision going to VAR
I can’t really comment on the goal itself as only saw brief highlights on social media (LOL at Alisson btw), but best guess is that it will be an arm off but body inside jobbie which is why it was given |  |
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| Offside on 14:27 - Feb 15 with 758 views | JakeITFC |
Think the angles they show on tv are quite misleading sometimes - lines don't look straight based on the footage. I'm working on the assumption/hope that the technology used by the VAR is better. |  | | |
| Offside on 14:29 - Feb 15 with 750 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
Arm can't be offside can it? |  |
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| Offside on 14:29 - Feb 15 with 746 views | SitfcB |
| Offside on 14:25 - Feb 15 by C_HealyIsAPleasure |
Can’t be offside with your arm as only parts of the body that can play the ball count. That’s always been the case but obviously magnified by every close decision going to VAR
I can’t really comment on the goal itself as only saw brief highlights on social media (LOL at Alisson btw), but best guess is that it will be an arm off but body inside jobbie which is why it was given |
There’s been goals disallowed this season due to arms being offside. |  |
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| Offside on 14:34 - Feb 15 with 722 views | hype313 |
| Offside on 14:29 - Feb 15 by SitfcB |
There’s been goals disallowed this season due to arms being offside. |
That's my point, there's been a number of VAR checks saying the arm or finger was offside. | |
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| Offside on 14:38 - Feb 15 with 708 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
| Offside on 14:29 - Feb 15 by SitfcB |
There’s been goals disallowed this season due to arms being offside. |
Shoulder rather than arm usually isn’t it? | |
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| Offside on 14:38 - Feb 15 with 706 views | SamWhiteUK |
| Offside on 14:27 - Feb 15 by JakeITFC |
Think the angles they show on tv are quite misleading sometimes - lines don't look straight based on the footage. I'm working on the assumption/hope that the technology used by the VAR is better. |
We should really see exactly what they see while they're getting it wrong. Trouble is, it might make their decisions even more inexcusable/ |  | | |
| Offside on 14:41 - Feb 15 with 694 views | JammyDodgerrr |
Definitely been arms - Bamford got flagged offside earlier in the season for pointing where he wanted to the ball. |  |
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| Offside on 14:51 - Feb 15 with 676 views | bluelagos |
Am behind all the VAR stuff - but what happened to clear and obvious error? Surely if it's too close to the naked eye to call offside, it should just be ruled onside?
Is killing the game when you can't celebrate a goal anymore. I'd change it to a cricket style - where each team (and the ref if he asks for it) get 1 VAR per half - and if you appeal a decision and it and it is not over ruled - you lose it.
That way managers/captains would only appeal obvious mistakes. And I'd have like cricket - stays with a refs decision unless it is clear and obvious error. Which means 10 seconds - if VAR is not clear it is a wrong decision - it stays as/is.
Or just scrap it and allow a ref to use it if/when he decides he needs it. [Post edited 15 Feb 2021 14:55]
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| Offside on 14:51 - Feb 15 with 676 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
| Offside on 14:41 - Feb 15 by JammyDodgerrr |
Definitely been arms - Bamford got flagged offside earlier in the season for pointing where he wanted to the ball. |
It was judged offside because he was leaning and the part of the arm (ie. at the top/shoulder) that can play the ball was marginally offside. The arm itself was irrelevant
Btw I hate VAR and think analysing offsides to the millimetre is ridiculous, but the arm itself not being able to be offside has always been the case and still is [Post edited 15 Feb 2021 14:56]
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| Offside on 14:54 - Feb 15 with 657 views | Garv |
| Offside on 14:41 - Feb 15 by JammyDodgerrr |
Definitely been arms - Bamford got flagged offside earlier in the season for pointing where he wanted to the ball. |
I think it was shoulder (or top of t-shirt technically) that was offside, so that was the rationale behind it...Nonsense of course but it wasn't the 'arm' that was offside. |  |
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| Offside on 14:56 - Feb 15 with 637 views | StNeotsBlue |
Not this year. There was one earlier this year where offside was given against the player's hand where he was pointing where he wanted the ball played. Think it was Bamford. |  | | |
| Offside on 15:30 - Feb 15 with 597 views | theipswichfile |
I watched it and part of Amartey's body certainly looked offside, but as others have said, the camera angles could have something to do with that.
The commentator seemed to think Firmino played him onside but it wasn't clear from the coverage. Amartey attempted to play the ball and from what we could see, looked to be offside so probably should have been disallowed.
I didn't mind too much as I'd bet on Maddison to score from outside the area.
What's really irked me this weekend has been all the soft freekicks and penalties given to the big sides. Salah got some stick on here the other day for diving but Man City, Man Utd, and Arsenal all conned the ref just as much, if not more. Saka went down very easily on a couple of occasions yesterday, and won a penalty simply by moving into the path of a fair challenge. Then at 4-2, Bamford got sandwiched between two players and nothing given.
I know the genie has been out of the bottle for a while now but football is so frustrating to watch at the moment. Man City are extremely talented but they suffocate the life out of games by making tactical fouls as soon as they lose the ball, only to then re-enact assassination by sniper when it suits them.
We're not getting as many nice passages of play because nine times out of ten, an attacking move is quashed by a tactical foul.
I'm finding it pretty joyless for the most part. |  | | |
| Offside on 15:33 - Feb 15 with 585 views | LankHenners |
| Offside on 14:56 - Feb 15 by StNeotsBlue |
Not this year. There was one earlier this year where offside was given against the player's hand where he was pointing where he wanted the ball played. Think it was Bamford. |
It was his shoulder they were drawing the lines from. That he was pointing extended where they took the ‘top of the arm’ measurement so was stupid anyway but they weren’t claiming his hand was offside. |  |
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| Offside on 16:57 - Feb 15 with 534 views | Garv |
| Offside on 14:51 - Feb 15 by bluelagos |
Am behind all the VAR stuff - but what happened to clear and obvious error? Surely if it's too close to the naked eye to call offside, it should just be ruled onside?
Is killing the game when you can't celebrate a goal anymore. I'd change it to a cricket style - where each team (and the ref if he asks for it) get 1 VAR per half - and if you appeal a decision and it and it is not over ruled - you lose it.
That way managers/captains would only appeal obvious mistakes. And I'd have like cricket - stays with a refs decision unless it is clear and obvious error. Which means 10 seconds - if VAR is not clear it is a wrong decision - it stays as/is.
Or just scrap it and allow a ref to use it if/when he decides he needs it. [Post edited 15 Feb 2021 14:55]
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Got to be the last option that you propose, for me. Everything else just complicates the game.
Plough resources into improving refereeing standards and encourage using common sense, and also set expectations to clubs/players/managers that football is not consistent, you will not always get consistent decisions. I hate it when people compare two tackles from separate games made by different referees, that resulted in different punishments and saying how it's not consistent - they're two different incidents, what do you expect? | |
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